Niesmann + Bischoff Flair 920 LF 2015

[sallylillian]

• £165,000 or intelligent offer
  
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• 18,500 miles
  
• A fully loaded example, with almost the complete options book!
• Gross weight 7.49 tons
  
• The new style award winning Flair
  
• Oyster SAT TV with Internet
• 2 AC Units with silencers
• Candy front loading washing machine, plumbed in
• 370 water, 240 grey, 160 black
• Slide out storage in through locker and garage
• Fantastic 7350 vents in kitchen and bathroom
• 8 speed ZF gearbox
• Alde heating with heat exchanger, load monitor and Smart control
• WiFi router with Hi gain antenna on roof
  
• 320 watts solar
• Gasit Refillable bottle system
• Electric Heki's with remote control
• Fridge fans
• Tow bar
• Full VB air suspension and EP Jacks
• Loads more pictures for interested parties

See below for the full German/English Order

mmp - Multimedia-Pack (Packung Preis)

Navigationssystem Rückfahrkamera / navigationsystem rearcamera

Sound system

Sat-Antenne Oyster 85 vishion 2 / sat aerial oyster 85 with internet

Tv-Gerät 24 Zoll / TV-flatscreen 24 inch


Cp - Comfort Pack (Packung Preis)

Panoramadachluke / big skylight livingroom

Plissee Rollo für Fahrer und Beifahrer / blinds for windows cabin left and right

190 l TEC-Tower + 35 l Gefrierfach inkl. Gas-Backofen / 190l fridge incl. Oven

Froli Bettsystem mit Kaltschaummatratze / froli sleepingsystem


LP - Liner-Pack (Packung Preis)

Außenspiegel mit Weitwinkel-, Elektro-und beheizt, / electric mirrors

Aluminium Isolierung vor Rollo elektrisch angetrieben / electric blind for front window

Doppelglasfenster auf der Fahrer & Beifahrerseite

SKA-Komfortsitze für Fahrer und Beifahrer / SKS pilote seats

Microfaser Innenfutter an der Decke statt Teppichbelag / carpets under the roof

Fenster mit Einhand-Bedienung / windows with one catch


Dp - Dynamische Pack (Packung Preis)

Weitere AGM-Batterie 150 Ah zur Körper (2 insgesamt) / 2. leissure battery

Weitere AGM-Batterie 150 Ah für Körper (3 insgesamt) / 3. leissure battery

Kombi-Ladegerät 80 A mit Wechselrichter 12 V bis 230 V, 2000-Watt- / inverter 2000 W


Chassis

Anhängerkupplung bis zu 3.500 kg / towbar

Automatische Wandler-Getriebe ZF 8HP / automatic

Sperrdifferential Hinterachse / differentlocking

Dekoration Stahl Edelstahl auf Armaturenbrett / dashboard in steel design

Liftsystem mit automatischem Niveauausgleich (vertikal Stützen) / E+P automatic steady jacks

Gewicht Upgrade auf 7,4 t. / 7,4t

Automatische Klimaanlage in der Fahrerkabine mit Pollenfilter / aircondition motordriven

170 l Kraftstofftank / 170l dieseltank

Leder-Lenkrad / steering wheel in leather

LED-Front und Nebelscheinwerfer und Kurvenlicht / LED front lights incl. Fog and curvelights

Alufelgen vorne / alloy wheels front and covers rear

205-PS-Motor / 205hp

Spurverbreiterung Vorderachse / wheel spacers front axle

Komfortsitze mit Heizung / piloteseats with heating

Vollluftfederung / full air suspension

Windschutzscheibe beheizt / front window heated

Kabine

clouLine Design

champagner-metallic / champ. Met.

Thermostat gesteuert Frischluftventilator über der Küche / electric skylight over kitchen

Einparkhilfe (4 Sensoren) / park distance control front

Thermostat gesteuert Frischluftventilator über Bad / electric skylight over bathroom

grosser Dachlüfter Schlafbereich / big skylight over sleeping room

Markise 6,0 m Elektroversion / awning 6,0 electric

Seitenwandklappe für Garage auf der linken Seite / garage door right side

Wohnzimmer

Front Schränke / front cupboards

Frontblende / frontblind

Mineralwerkstoff mit gemacht Einbauspüle für Küche und Bad / mineral material kitchen and bath

Schiefer Oberfläche auf TV-Möbel in "Black stone"-Look / blackstone look under TV


Gas-und Wasser-Heizung

Dusche in der Garage / shower in garage

Schlauch für Abwasserentsorgung / hose for waste water

Fussbodenheizung / floorheating

Gasanschluss in Seitenwand / outside gas

Handtuchtrockner in der Toilette / towel dryer

WC mit Festtank / toilet with fixed tank 160l

Klimaanlage Unterflur Saphir comfort, 2.400 Watt, im Wohnzimmer / aircondition living room

Unterflur-Klimaanlage Saphir Vario 2.000 Watt, für Schlafzimmer / aircondition sleeping room

Motorwärmetauscher mit Vorwärmung Einheit / bengine heating exchanger

Erweiterung für Heizung / extended heating in the driver`s cab

Truma DuoControl

2 Gasfilter für Campinggasflaschen / gasfilter

elektrisch

Akzentbeleuchtung Mediatower / indirect lighting media tower

Akzentbeleuchtung Wohnraumtüre / ambiance lighting door

Akzentbeleuchtung Heckwand / ambiance lighting rear wall

Sat Twin / sat twin

4× 80-Watt-Solaranlage / 4x 80 W solar

Alarmanlage / alarmsystem Thatcham CAT1

Zentralverriegelung für Aufbautür, Klappen und Garagentor

Leder anthrazit / leather anthracite

Cru Nr. 3 modern/kiss

Flair 920LF Linkslenker

Heki Wohnraum elektrisch / big skylight livingroom electric

Aufpreis für fantastic vent 7000 Küche / additional charge for fantastic vent 7000 kitchen

Aufpreis für fantastic vent 7000 Bad / additional charge for fantastic vent 7000 bath

Aufpreis für Heki Schlafzimmer elektrisch / additional charge for electric Heki sleeping room

Thermostat in Heizkörper / charge for fitting electric in heating bath

Kopfstützenbezug / seat covers

Sat Antenne Internet Mehrpreis / sat aerial internet additional charge

Kabel vom Interne ins TV-Fach verlegen / cable from internet to TV

12 V Steckdose in Fach unter TFT montieren / 12 V sockets in box under TFT

Angelieferte Antenne einbauen / your delivered WLAN aerial fitted and cable to TV

12V Steckdode links neben Bett / 12V socket near bed left

12V Steckdode rechts neben Bett / 12V socket near bed right

230 V Steckdose in Hängeschrank über Fahrersitz / 230V socket in cupboard over driver

230 V Steckdose Küche links / 230 V socket kitchen left

ALDE Smart Control

12V Steckdose mit Schalter im Entsorgungsfach / 12V socket with switch (20A) near wastewater

230V Steckdose neben Handtuchheizkörper/Bad // 230V socket near heating bath



Scheinwerfer in englischer Ausführung / headlights for english traffic

UK 230-Volt-Steckdosen statt Euro / 230V sockets in english version

Speedo





Additional:

Einbau einer Waschmaschine / fitting washing machine

Einbau WIFI / fitting WIFI

 

[Armytwowheels]

Very nice!

 

[irnbru]

Your van is beautiful and the sort a lot of us dream about., but that van costs more than my house Now if I won some money I would be interested.

Good Luck with your sale.

 

[Figaro]

Stunning, Are we running the lottery this week?
@ianthebuilder - try an offer for £ 1 a week
Good luck with the sale, wish I was in the market.

 

[Robert Clark]

Love the slide out boxes Michael. No such option on out Arto.

Looks a great van for someone who would appreciate the quality.

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[wiljoy]

Stunning, Are we running the lottery this week?
@ianthebuilder - try an offer for £ 1 a week
Good luck with the sale, wish I was in the market.

Ian the builder purchased an item from me last week and paid in full without asking for £1 a week. Really nice guy.

 

[CazPaul]

What a beauty.

 

[CazPaul]

Last photo, is that the storage Michael, or a workshop?

 

[sallylillian]

That is my mates barn Paul, I rent half of it for my van and previously the RV, its only 15 mins from me and has electric and flood lighting as well as water. The whole place has CCTV and electronic locks. Great place to work on the van.

 

[funflair]

Love the slide out boxes Michael. No such option on out Arto.

Looks a great van for someone who would appreciate the quality.

I think you can just a retrofit Robert, this is the guy that does them for the factory, https://www.chrismotec.de you need a suitable locker of course.

Martin

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[Robert Clark]

I think you can just a retrofit Robert, this is the guy that does them for the factory, https://www.chrismotec.de you need a suitable locker of course.

Martin

The problem with our Arto is there’s loads of wasted space under the floor where all the electrics used to be, but no locker to access it.
Here’s a ting floor hatch, so stuff just rolls around and count get lost.

 

[sallylillian]

The problem with our Arto is there’s loads of wasted space under the floor where all the electrics used to be, but no locker to access it.
Here’s a ting floor hatch, so stuff just rolls around and count get lost.

Thats why I did not reply to you Robert. There are some other solutions. www.idea-systec.de

 

[Fireyorks]

Wow, stunning g vehicle, would you take my house in part exchange and I’ll ty and borrow the rest

 

[h1ghway1]

Must have been an absolute pleasure to have owned that vehicle... smashing piece of kit..

 

[Steve and Denise]

Nice van can I ask why you are changing to a Morelo the NB looks to have just about everything on it, Or is your new van bigger still

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[CazPaul]

Now that is great door design Michael, no chance of leaks with that, wish other manufacturers would take note.

 

[sallylillian]

Nice van can I ask why you are changing to a Morelo the NB looks to have just about everything on it, Or is your new van bigger still

Prior to this we had a 12mt Yankee with 4 slide outs. It was too big! Not on the roads so much but on campsites, so we set a limit at 9 metres. And bought the Flair at 9.24! It made a tremendous difference to our touring, we could get in most places, manoeuvring was a doddle in comparison so the only downside was the space. After nearly 4 years we have gotten used to it. BUT. We were at the Stuttgart show in January 2018 and went onto the Phoenix, Concorde and Morelo stands. Long story short we saw we could get a Morelo with a slide out at the same length as our Flair. Couple of features we did not like but the new 2019 Palace liner was solving one of those so we did a deal over the next couple of months for 88LB SLO Palace Liner on the 1230 Merc chassis. Only 9.19 metres long, a bit taller and the 2.5 wide body. Of course we had to dust off our C licences, as its 11.99 tons and Sally had forgiven hers when she turned 70, however has just got it reinstated. I am not sure if you can still get a slide out on the Daily chassis with them as it kills the payload in any event I was only interested in the Truck chassis. Martin @funflair may be along with an update on that. So hope that answers the question.

 

[sallylillian]

Now that is great door design Michael, no chance of leaks with that, wish other manufacturers would take note.

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Yes they work well and the electronic locking displays on the dash to show any of them not closed properly! The garage doors had an issue but that was fixed at one of the warranty visits and has been fine since.

 

[funflair]

I am sure that Michael @sallylillian is right that Morelo have dropped the slide option on the Daily chassis version of their vans, they got themselves into a bit of bother by selling vans that were too heavy to be used so they have streamlined the range and put the slide option purely on the Liners and they are all truck chassis. They are also streamlining the ranges in other areas the shorter Palace's F and H version are being dropped, the premium is being dropped from the Loft range and I am sure there are more that I don't know about.

Martin

 

[Steve and Denise]

I see what you say about the slide out especially being used to a yank at 12 mtrs,
9 mtrs is large enough for most but a slide out will give you a lot more space.

Well with yours now for sale you must be getting close to delivery.

I hope you put some photos of the new van on here and good luck with your sale

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[sallylillian]

I see what you say about the slide out especially being used to a yank at 12 mtrs,
9 mtrs is large enough for most but a slide out will give you a lot more space.

Well with yours now for sale you must be getting close to delivery.

I hope you put some photos of the new van on here and good luck with your sale

Thanks, build starts in 2 weeks if Lohner is true to his word. I am in the enviable position of having a stonking PX for my Flair together with what amounts to an unrepeatable discount on the new one now that the new price structure has been initiated, so selling in the UK is OK only if I get my price. On the Morelo for example the luxury air seats that were standard on the Liner when I ordered, are now E4k extra! Having said that it was a close call to sell the Flair as she is so complete now and all the warranty stuff has been done including the replacement gearbox mounting plate which was an Iveco recall.

 

[funflair]

Thanks, build starts in 2 weeks if Lohner is true to his word. I am in the enviable position of having a stonking PX for my Flair together with what amounts to an unrepeatable discount on the new one now that the new price structure has been initiated, so selling in the UK is OK only if I get my price. On the Morelo for example the luxury air seats that were standard on the Liner when I ordered, are now E4k extra! Having said that it was a close call to sell the Flair as she is so complete now and all the warranty stuff has been done including the replacement gearbox mounting plate which was an Iveco recall.

Hi Michael

Is that the Torque converter plate that was discussed on Linertreff.

Martin

 

[sallylillian]

Hi Michael

Is that the Torque converter plate that was discussed on Linertreff.

Martin

I thought it was a mounting plate but basically yes it was the one on LinerTreff and frankly if I had not read it on there I would not have known. I bet there are a lot of new Daily Motorhome owners who are blissfully unaware, until their gearbox ends up in bits in a carrier bag with a massive bill and no warranty redress.

 

[funflair]

I thought it was a mounting plate but basically yes it was the one on LinerTreff and frankly if I had not read it on there I would not have known. I bet there are a lot of new Daily Motorhome owners who are blissfully unaware, until their gearbox ends up in bits in a carrier bag with a massive bill and no warranty redress.

That's another forum that was worth joining then

Martin

 

[haganap]

What a traitor !!! ha ha. lovely looking van, looking at something similar but just not yet although to be fair I do tend to love my Arto which is fully packed and ready to head to the mountains for some wintersports in just 3 hours!!!

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[funflair]

What a traitor !!! ha ha. lovely looking van, looking at something similar but just not yet although to be fair I do tend to love my Arto which is fully packed and ready to head to the mountains for some wintersports in just 3 hours!!!

It will know it's way without you soon, Enjoy

Martin

 

[TheAleMan]

Thanks, build starts in 2 weeks if Lohner is true to his word. I am in the enviable position of having a stonking PX for my Flair together with what amounts to an unrepeatable discount on the new one now that the new price structure has been initiated, so selling in the UK is OK only if I get my price. On the Morelo for example the luxury air seats that were standard on the Liner when I ordered, are now E4k extra! Having said that it was a close call to sell the Flair as she is so complete now and all the warranty stuff has been done including the replacement gearbox mounting plate which was an Iveco recall.

So I take it that all new Iveco Daily's are free from the gearbox mounting plate issue???

 

[sallylillian]

So I take it that all new Iveco Daily's are free from the gearbox mounting plate issue???

When you say new do you mean 2019 models? Either way if you were buying any Daily based MH with the ZF box it would be advisable to check the VIN with Iveco.

 

[TheAleMan]

Yes Michael, I do mean 2019 models, and thanks,will bare that in mind.

 

[Familymad]

Wow, that’s one mighty fine machine. I clicked ‘watch’ on eBay as it was sooo much better value than the nearly new Carthago we were looking at. Assume it’s gone to a good home?

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