New Catalonian decree for camperstops/motorhome parking

I quite agree, if you want to stay for a longer time than 48 hours, then that’s what campsites are for.
 
Lenny HB said:
It's all in foreign, is it saying stopping on a camper stops will be limited to 48 hours?
If so it will be good for those of us who like touring.
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My tablet is automatically translating the article.
 
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Lenny HB said:
It's all in foreign, is it saying stopping on a camper stops will be limited to 48 hours?
If so it will be good for those of us who like touring.
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From what I can make out yes and there are also plans to get campsites to provide that sort of area for Motorhomes so they have facilities but not all the unrequired things like hook up etc. But that is a work in progress🤔
 
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Looks good, 72 hours would be nicer but can't have everything. Should make finding spaces easier not that we have ever had a problem.
 
Here is the translation.
48 hours to private motorhome areas
CURRENTLY, THE SECTOR
Catalonia approved, last summer, the Decree that regulates tourist establishments and in which it defines, for the first time, the requirements that must be met by tested areas of motorhomes in transit, in which it imposes a maximum stay limit of only 48 hours
Although the Law of tourist establishments approved in the Valencian Community is the one that has shaken social networks, in recent months, it has not been the only community that has approved a legal text that regulates motorhome areas and it is that Catalonia entered In force, on August 26, 2020, Decree 75/2020, of August 4, on tourism in Catalonia.
Top photo: Stock photo © On Road Magazine
This means that, as long as a motorhome or campervan is well parked, without exceeding or expanding its perimeter, through the transformation or deployment of camping elements, supported on its own wheels and without dumping waste on the road, it can remain on public roads. , both day and night, not being relevant the type of vehicle or the permanence of people inside. However, we continue to regret the fact that wedges cannot be used, something that we must take into account as the regulations indicate it, nor of course use leveling feet.
A model turned into a reality
Since Decree 396/2013 of the Basque Country was published, we have been able to see how, little by little, the rest of the communities have been copying this new model of establishment, destined to temporarily host motorhomes, which in all cases consists of in fenced, illuminated and guarded areas, but with slight modifications in terms of technical requirements. In the case of the Decree approved by the Generalitat, the minimum surface area of 30 m² per plot has been maintained, initially planned, whose land must be flattened and compacted, and in which the possibility of deploying awnings and using portable elements, such as tables or chairs, within the plot. However, the ratio of water emptying and refueling equipment has been reduced, at the rate of one emptying point and drinking water for every 30 plots or fraction, as well as the provision of sinks, showers, toilets and laundries, at a rate of one for every 20 parcels or fraction, being those foreseen in the previous published Project of 20 and 15, respectively.
<< No one would be talking about this new Decree if it were not for a small change, the introduction of just 1 word that, however, changes everything >>
Therefore, the allegations of the Association of Private Motorhome Areas, who considered these requirements exaggerated, have been accepted. On the contrary, the electrical outlets that the establishment must have has been increased to 1 for every 4 places, a decision that seems right to us

The truth is that the new Decree has been approved with a long delay, since the deadline for submitting allegations to the Draft Decree of the Tourism Regulation of Catalonia ended on September 15, 2016 and, since then, we had not had any news. Certainly, the text received an avalanche of allegations, especially in relation to tourist apartments, which have not caused few headaches to the Government of the Generalitat, whose political instability in recent years has not contributed much to the termination of the legal text . Likewise, camping establishments and associations of private motorhome areas were also very awaiting to know what the Decree published would be and if their allegations would be taken into account, since it was the first time that private motorhome areas were regulated in Catalonia. Have they been taken into account? Let's see it!
No room for interpretation
The first aspect that we like about this regulation, especially after what happened last February, in relation to the Law approved in the Valencian Community, is that the Catalan Decree does not offer room for interpretation as regards its scope. refers, clearly excluding from the application of this, in its article 213-22, "the stopping and parking of motorhomes in areas enabled on roads, highways, urban roads and car parks", and adds that "it is considered that the motorhome is not camped motorhome stopped or parked in authorized areas of urban or interurban public roads, in accordance with traffic and vehicle circulation regulations ”.

Also for caravans
On the other hand, one of the main arguments used in the allegations presented by the Associations of Private Areas has been that motorhomes are vehicles that already have everything necessary to be self-sufficient, so it does not make much sense that, like It happened with the Basque regulation, the reception areas of Decree 75/2020 are intended for motorhomes, similar vehicles in transit and also caravans, since these are generally not as self-sufficient as a motorhome can be.
Certainly, the overnight stay of users who travel by caravan, while they are in transit, is a fact that some user associations have been claiming for some time, but without a doubt it is an incorporation that can generate many conflicts, especially with the campsite associations, and if we think about it carefully, «an enclosure where motorhomes, caravans and campers can enter, which has bathrooms and offers a delimited square, where you can camp, using the awning and taking out tables and chairs, it does not stop being a camping », right?
<< If we think about it carefully, an enclosure that has bathrooms and that offers a limited space where you can camp, is still a campsite, right? >>
For vehicles in transit
The truth is that there do not seem to be too many differences between a campsite and the model of private area that is being regulated, if it were not for an aspect that is precisely the one that is generating the most controversy: the «maximum stay in reception areas of motorhomes ». In this sense, the first draft decree provided a maximum of 72 hours, against which the Association of Private Areas of Motorhomes raised a cry, claiming that this was in conflict with free trade laws. However, Decree 75/2020, not only has not increased this maximum period of time, but has reduced it to 48 hours, not being possible to make a new stay until after 24 hours
 
Speve said:
Here is the translation.
48 hours to private motorhome areas
CURRENTLY, THE SECTOR
Catalonia approved, last summer, the Decree that regulates tourist establishments and in which it defines, for the first time, the requirements that must be met by tested areas of motorhomes in transit, in which it imposes a maximum stay limit of only 48 hours
Although the Law of tourist establishments approved in the Valencian Community is the one that has shaken social networks, in recent months, it has not been the only community that has approved a legal text that regulates motorhome areas and it is that Catalonia entered In force, on August 26, 2020, Decree 75/2020, of August 4, on tourism in Catalonia.
Top photo: Stock photo © On Road Magazine
This means that, as long as a motorhome or campervan is well parked, without exceeding or expanding its perimeter, through the transformation or deployment of camping elements, supported on its own wheels and without dumping waste on the road, it can remain on public roads. , both day and night, not being relevant the type of vehicle or the permanence of people inside. However, we continue to regret the fact that wedges cannot be used, something that we must take into account as the regulations indicate it, nor of course use leveling feet.
A model turned into a reality
Since Decree 396/2013 of the Basque Country was published, we have been able to see how, little by little, the rest of the communities have been copying this new model of establishment, destined to temporarily host motorhomes, which in all cases consists of in fenced, illuminated and guarded areas, but with slight modifications in terms of technical requirements. In the case of the Decree approved by the Generalitat, the minimum surface area of 30 m² per plot has been maintained, initially planned, whose land must be flattened and compacted, and in which the possibility of deploying awnings and using portable elements, such as tables or chairs, within the plot. However, the ratio of water emptying and refueling equipment has been reduced, at the rate of one emptying point and drinking water for every 30 plots or fraction, as well as the provision of sinks, showers, toilets and laundries, at a rate of one for every 20 parcels or fraction, being those foreseen in the previous published Project of 20 and 15, respectively.
<< No one would be talking about this new Decree if it were not for a small change, the introduction of just 1 word that, however, changes everything >>
Therefore, the allegations of the Association of Private Motorhome Areas, who considered these requirements exaggerated, have been accepted. On the contrary, the electrical outlets that the establishment must have has been increased to 1 for every 4 places, a decision that seems right to us

The truth is that the new Decree has been approved with a long delay, since the deadline for submitting allegations to the Draft Decree of the Tourism Regulation of Catalonia ended on September 15, 2016 and, since then, we had not had any news. Certainly, the text received an avalanche of allegations, especially in relation to tourist apartments, which have not caused few headaches to the Government of the Generalitat, whose political instability in recent years has not contributed much to the termination of the legal text . Likewise, camping establishments and associations of private motorhome areas were also very awaiting to know what the Decree published would be and if their allegations would be taken into account, since it was the first time that private motorhome areas were regulated in Catalonia. Have they been taken into account? Let's see it!
No room for interpretation
The first aspect that we like about this regulation, especially after what happened last February, in relation to the Law approved in the Valencian Community, is that the Catalan Decree does not offer room for interpretation as regards its scope. refers, clearly excluding from the application of this, in its article 213-22, "the stopping and parking of motorhomes in areas enabled on roads, highways, urban roads and car parks", and adds that "it is considered that the motorhome is not camped motorhome stopped or parked in authorized areas of urban or interurban public roads, in accordance with traffic and vehicle circulation regulations ”.

Also for caravans
On the other hand, one of the main arguments used in the allegations presented by the Associations of Private Areas has been that motorhomes are vehicles that already have everything necessary to be self-sufficient, so it does not make much sense that, like It happened with the Basque regulation, the reception areas of Decree 75/2020 are intended for motorhomes, similar vehicles in transit and also caravans, since these are generally not as self-sufficient as a motorhome can be.
Certainly, the overnight stay of users who travel by caravan, while they are in transit, is a fact that some user associations have been claiming for some time, but without a doubt it is an incorporation that can generate many conflicts, especially with the campsite associations, and if we think about it carefully, «an enclosure where motorhomes, caravans and campers can enter, which has bathrooms and offers a delimited square, where you can camp, using the awning and taking out tables and chairs, it does not stop being a camping », right?
<< If we think about it carefully, an enclosure that has bathrooms and that offers a limited space where you can camp, is still a campsite, right? >>
For vehicles in transit
The truth is that there do not seem to be too many differences between a campsite and the model of private area that is being regulated, if it were not for an aspect that is precisely the one that is generating the most controversy: the «maximum stay in reception areas of motorhomes ». In this sense, the first draft decree provided a maximum of 72 hours, against which the Association of Private Areas of Motorhomes raised a cry, claiming that this was in conflict with free trade laws. However, Decree 75/2020, not only has not increased this maximum period of time, but has reduced it to 48 hours, not being possible to make a new stay until after 24 hours
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In a nutshell it's been brought on by three factors....1. Campsites not happy that Camperstops are turning into mini unregulated campsites..
2. Visitors to Camperstops are using them as campsites and also demanding more from them to provide the same services as campsites without paying anywhere near the same price.
3. Travellers requiring a one night cannot find a place to rest, service there van and continue they journey due to Camperstops being rammed with long stay motorhomers, also caravan tourers would like to be able to pull up for the night the same as motorhomes do.

I can see this becoming widespread throughout Spain in time.....brought on by selfish users and providers of camperstops...
Has anyone seen for themselves anti social behaviour like constructing mini fences to mark there land, kitchen setups, trailers...on camperstops which were originally built to provide an area to overnight and service your van, well I have....some regulations are long overdue...

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Speve said:
Here is the translation.
48 hours to private motorhome areas
CURRENTLY, THE SECTOR
Catalonia approved, last summer, the Decree that regulates tourist establishments and in which it defines, for the first time, the requirements that must be met by tested areas of motorhomes in transit, in which it imposes a maximum stay limit of only 48 hours
Although the Law of tourist establishments approved in the Valencian Community is the one that has shaken social networks, in recent months, it has not been the only community that has approved a legal text that regulates motorhome areas and it is that Catalonia entered In force, on August 26, 2020, Decree 75/2020, of August 4, on tourism in Catalonia.
Top photo: Stock photo © On Road Magazine
This means that, as long as a motorhome or campervan is well parked, without exceeding or expanding its perimeter, through the transformation or deployment of camping elements, supported on its own wheels and without dumping waste on the road, it can remain on public roads. , both day and night, not being relevant the type of vehicle or the permanence of people inside. However, we continue to regret the fact that wedges cannot be used, something that we must take into account as the regulations indicate it, nor of course use leveling feet.
A model turned into a reality
Since Decree 396/2013 of the Basque Country was published, we have been able to see how, little by little, the rest of the communities have been copying this new model of establishment, destined to temporarily host motorhomes, which in all cases consists of in fenced, illuminated and guarded areas, but with slight modifications in terms of technical requirements. In the case of the Decree approved by the Generalitat, the minimum surface area of 30 m² per plot has been maintained, initially planned, whose land must be flattened and compacted, and in which the possibility of deploying awnings and using portable elements, such as tables or chairs, within the plot. However, the ratio of water emptying and refueling equipment has been reduced, at the rate of one emptying point and drinking water for every 30 plots or fraction, as well as the provision of sinks, showers, toilets and laundries, at a rate of one for every 20 parcels or fraction, being those foreseen in the previous published Project of 20 and 15, respectively.
<< No one would be talking about this new Decree if it were not for a small change, the introduction of just 1 word that, however, changes everything >>
Therefore, the allegations of the Association of Private Motorhome Areas, who considered these requirements exaggerated, have been accepted. On the contrary, the electrical outlets that the establishment must have has been increased to 1 for every 4 places, a decision that seems right to us

The truth is that the new Decree has been approved with a long delay, since the deadline for submitting allegations to the Draft Decree of the Tourism Regulation of Catalonia ended on September 15, 2016 and, since then, we had not had any news. Certainly, the text received an avalanche of allegations, especially in relation to tourist apartments, which have not caused few headaches to the Government of the Generalitat, whose political instability in recent years has not contributed much to the termination of the legal text . Likewise, camping establishments and associations of private motorhome areas were also very awaiting to know what the Decree published would be and if their allegations would be taken into account, since it was the first time that private motorhome areas were regulated in Catalonia. Have they been taken into account? Let's see it!
No room for interpretation
The first aspect that we like about this regulation, especially after what happened last February, in relation to the Law approved in the Valencian Community, is that the Catalan Decree does not offer room for interpretation as regards its scope. refers, clearly excluding from the application of this, in its article 213-22, "the stopping and parking of motorhomes in areas enabled on roads, highways, urban roads and car parks", and adds that "it is considered that the motorhome is not camped motorhome stopped or parked in authorized areas of urban or interurban public roads, in accordance with traffic and vehicle circulation regulations ”.

Also for caravans
On the other hand, one of the main arguments used in the allegations presented by the Associations of Private Areas has been that motorhomes are vehicles that already have everything necessary to be self-sufficient, so it does not make much sense that, like It happened with the Basque regulation, the reception areas of Decree 75/2020 are intended for motorhomes, similar vehicles in transit and also caravans, since these are generally not as self-sufficient as a motorhome can be.
Certainly, the overnight stay of users who travel by caravan, while they are in transit, is a fact that some user associations have been claiming for some time, but without a doubt it is an incorporation that can generate many conflicts, especially with the campsite associations, and if we think about it carefully, «an enclosure where motorhomes, caravans and campers can enter, which has bathrooms and offers a delimited square, where you can camp, using the awning and taking out tables and chairs, it does not stop being a camping », right?
<< If we think about it carefully, an enclosure that has bathrooms and that offers a limited space where you can camp, is still a campsite, right? >>
For vehicles in transit
The truth is that there do not seem to be too many differences between a campsite and the model of private area that is being regulated, if it were not for an aspect that is precisely the one that is generating the most controversy: the «maximum stay in reception areas of motorhomes ». In this sense, the first draft decree provided a maximum of 72 hours, against which the Association of Private Areas of Motorhomes raised a cry, claiming that this was in conflict with free trade laws. However, Decree 75/2020, not only has not increased this maximum period of time, but has reduced it to 48 hours, not being possible to make a new stay until after 24 hours
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So does this mean, back as you were but don't stay longer than 48 hours?
 
One part that isn't in the translation above is the worry that private camperstops will be less likely to be opened if they can only let people stay for 48 hours.

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Swings and roundabouts?
 
jumartoo said:
One part that isn't in the translation above is the worry that private camperstops will be less likely to be opened if they can only let people stay for 48 hours.

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Swings and roundabouts?
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Fair point but there are private ones out there that are full of long stayers and are unusable for the rest of us.

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I think jumartoo has hit the nail on the head.
Private Camperstop proprietors have had to ensure that their income stream is protected. After all, they have invested heavily - too often invested too much - and have put in place infrastructures designed to keep motorhomes in their establishments for as long as possible.
48 hours will inevitably lead to unused slots as leavers and new arrivals fail to coincide.
 
I think the Camperstop at Palencia has it about right it’s always been busy when we have used it and of course it’s on a route South so most only need a night or two there, and their facilities are excellent.😊
sorry I missed the last bit of the translation I had copied it but didn’t paste 🙄
 
jumar said:
trailers...on camperstops which were originally built to provide an area to overnight and service your van, well I have....some regulations are long overdue
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We take our car trailer with us when going to Spain and have had no problems but will only use stops that have plenty of space and we try to park considerately avoiding parking across multiple bays and never stay longer than one night😊
 
jumar said:
In a nutshell it's been brought on by three factors....1. Campsites not happy that Camperstops are turning into mini unregulated campsites..
2. Visitors to Camperstops are using them as campsites and also demanding more from them to provide the same services as campsites without paying anywhere near the same price.
3. Travellers requiring a one night cannot find a place to rest, service there van and continue they journey due to Camperstops being rammed with long stay motorhomers, also caravan tourers would like to be able to pull up for the night the same as motorhomes do.

I can see this becoming widespread throughout Spain in time.....brought on by selfish users and providers of camperstops...
Has anyone seen for themselves anti social behaviour like constructing mini fences to mark there land, kitchen setups, trailers...on camperstops which were originally built to provide an area to overnight and service your van, well I have....some regulations are long overdue...
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Yes we've seen this type of on street camping and usually the mh has a big "D" on the number plate.
 
Speve said:
I think the Camperstop at Palencia has it about right it’s always been busy when we have used it and of course it’s on a route South so most only need a night or two there, and their facilities are excellent.😊
sorry I missed the last bit of the translation I had copied it but didn’t paste 🙄
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Never forgetting the incomparable “Kuko”.
Many a coffee, churros and of course beer shared with this most amicable fella!
 

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