Motorbike: Have you replaced factory garage anchor points? (1 Viewer)

[estresao]

Hi everyone,

About to take delivery of my brand new Adria Matrix and wondering how will I carry a 125cc scooter in the garage.

I've read some people replaced garage anchor point for more roboust hooks, but I still don't get that.... are factory ones that unreliable? Are throught bolt ones required? if so, why factory ones are not already this way?

 

[TheBig1]

factory fitted ones tend be only as strong as the wood and screws they are secured by

 

[Offagain]

We have a Bailey Autograph and a 125cc bike in our garage. We use a bracket for the front wheel (to keep it upright while strapping it in place) and ratchet straps to the factory fitted hooks.
Just spent a few weeks driving round Spain and France with no problems.

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[scotzsue]

We have removed the rails from our Mizar as the anchor points kept working loose, now have bolts through the floor, well sealed.

 

[Garfields]

Some makers will fit better fixings than others
Check when you get the van and beef up if in doubt
The more the loading is spread the better

 

[Wagoneer]

Probably first best to check if you can carry a scooter in the garage.

If your new van is based on a 3500kg chassis, you might not have sufficient payload.

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[estresao]

Looks like I can carry up to 150kg in the garage... and total weigth, when we are just two of us, should allow us carry a small scooter (around 100kg)

 

[Wagoneer]

Looks like I can carry up to 150kg in the garage... and total weigth, when we are just two of us, should allow us carry a small scooter (around 100kg)

I admire your confidence. My 125cc scooter is 130kg. I transport it in the garage. Despite my chassis being 4250kg, it's close to the permissible rear axle load of 2400kg.

If your chassis is 3500kg, the permissible rear axle load will be 2000kg. This can be increased to 2240kg by adding semi-air suspension on the rear axle on a leaf-spring chassis at an approximate cost of £500. If you have an AL-CO chassis the cost rises to £2k. This assumes your new vehicle has 16" wheels.

 

[estresao]

Welll, not sure yet about that, because I have not yet took deliver of my MH, which is due to hanppen in 2 or 3 weeks. What I know now is it got rear Alko pneumatic suspension (I guess it is semi) and the motorbike I'm mulling over, Suzuki Address, claims to weitgh 97kg

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[bigtree]

Welll, not sure yet about that, because I have not yet took deliver of my MH, which is due to hanppen in 2 or 3 weeks. What I know now is it got rear Alko pneumatic suspension (I guess it is semi) and the motorbike I'm mulling over, Suzuki Address, claims to weitgh 97kg

Eh scooter not motorbike.

 

[estresao]

Eh scooter not motorbike.

Maybe I'm lost in translation, but in my country a sooter is a type of motorbike.

 

[bigtree]

Maybe I'm lost in translation, but in my country a sooter is a type of motorbike.

In one post you say small scooter and in another you say motorbike, there is a distinct difference between a scooter and a motorbike. Generally a scooter is twist and go whereas a motorbike has manual gears. I think you know what I mean whatever country you live in.

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[estresao]

My idea is something with 125cc as light as possible. The Suzuki Address is 97kg and, another option I like more than mi half, is Honda MSX 125, with a weight of 101.7kg.

Scooter and motorbike

 

[Richard n Ann]

The Suzuki Address is 110cc isn't it? And only 9bhp? Better than the Honda Vision but a 125 will be about 12bhp. You will want more power once you start riding 2 up.

 

[funflair]

The Suzuki Address is 110cc isn't it? And only 9bhp? Better than the Honda Vision but a 125 will be about 12bhp. You will want more power once you start riding 2 up.

You always want more power but want and need are two different things, like everything it's back to the old compromise situation, bigger more powerful etc etc but if it then is too big/heavy for the garage you are stuffed.

Martin

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[Wagoneer]

Suggest you get your dealer to weigh the new motorhome so you know how much spare capacity there is on the rear axle.

Ideally, the weighing should include: full fresh water tank, full diesel tank, gas bottles, driver + passenger. Each individual axle should be weighed separately.

A 100kg scooter, located say 1.5m behind the rear axle will add something like 140kg to the rear axle. This is due to the cantilever effect. As a consequence, the front axle will be lighter by 40kg.

 

[bigtree]

This is a Motorbike.

 

[Baldeagle7470]

The Suzuki Address is 110cc isn't it? And only 9bhp? Better than the Honda Vision but a 125 will be about 12bhp. You will want more power once you start riding 2 up.

I bought a Suzuki Address 125 recently,it’s about 105 kgs,four speed auto clutch,copied the Honda 50,70,90 range I guess with that.
It’s fairly nippy up to 50 mph then runs out of puff a bit.
Incidentally s/hand 2011.
I use a transverse trailer which is 350 kg gross weight and think it weighs about 100 kgs.so plenty of spare capacity.
However I would not like to try and load my 300cc Cruisym scooter on it to be honest.

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[estresao]

I would rarely drive it on Highways, just on those occations a park and ride demand it, so I don't think I need a "rocket". Actually a couple of electric bikes would be enougth in most of the cases. A 125cc-ish thing that allow me and my half deal with few kilometer in a highways (only for these park and ride occassions) would be enought, having maximun priority not "eat" all the garage capacity only bu the motorbike-motorcicle-scooter-moped-OrWhatEverYouWantToCallIt

 

[Yorick]

This is a Motorbike. View attachment 282809

Hmm, I will resist from the obvious replies

 

[bigtree]

Hmm, I will resist from the obvious replies

Thought you were going to buy one ?

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[Richard n Ann]

Thought you were going to buy one ?

He's probably still saving up

 

[Yorick]

Thought you were going to buy one ?

Want a new Husky 300i, GSXR1000 and the KTM

One is OK, two greedy, three will need to buy the missus summat nice

 

[pappajohn]

Motorbike: Have you replaced factory garage anchor points?

Bloody hell, bike manufacturers think of everything don't they

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[Nasher]

Hmm, I will resist from the obvious replies

Me too.... but it's a bit of a girly bike....oops

 

[Lenny HB]

Your garage loading of 150kg sounds way too low. Scouters & bikes are normally quoted dry weight so you need to add fuel/ water/ oil. Then there are your helmets other gear for riding even lashings straps will add a few kg. Then there is all the other stuff you need to carry, table & chairs etc , tools, spares & spare wheel.
You really need a minimum of 250kg, ours is 350 with an option of 450kg.

 

[bigtwin]

Hmm, I will resist from the obvious replies

I resisted too!!

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[bigtree]

I resisted too!!

Don’t care what any of you think , this is possibly the best bike I have ever ridden.

 

[bigtwin]

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Don’t care what any of you think , this is possibly the best bike I have ever ridden.

As long as you’re happy, that’s all that matters.

Ian

 

[bigtree]

As long as you’re happy, that’s all that matters.

Ian

Go on get it off your chest what you think about KTM’s, you won’t sleep tonight until you do.

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