More MOT Madness!

[John Barrett]

Our E510 failed the MOT on a frayed handbrake cable, which I don't mind them finding, but the garage owner also phoned me and told me that he had to remove the engine blanket beforehand otherwise the van would have failed on that point as well. Reason being it was home made by me and not 'Manufactured for the purpose intended'!
He also told me he wasn't allowed to put it back on afterwards...
John

 

[glenn2926]

What is an engine blanket and why does your engine need a blanket?

 

[John Barrett]

What is an engine blanket and why does your engine need a blanket?

I could have said that it keeps it warm but...some noise reduction is achieved. Not a lot, but useful!

 

[Kannon Fodda]

If you've put something into the engine bay, which is a modification you'd need to be able to ensure it complies with all standards for safety. It would be difficult to do that on a home created modification. Is there is risk it could dislodge and either fall into a moving part, or indeed off the vehicle, perhaps interfering with steering and braking? Worse is it made of truly inert materials so it will neither be combustible, won't give off any toxic fumes, if there is fire nearby, can't melt, and won't cause something else to overheat. I'd suggest the garage owner, rather than appearing to be a jobsworth could have done you a favour by identifying it and removing it.

 

[bigwood]

As you said John it may be part of an add on sound deadening kit. If the mot man doesn’t like it being loose and has taken it off try driving without it. It can’t be as bad as some of the trucks we used to drive.
Leaving the engine cover propped open an inch to get warm feet on an AEC was better than being slightly deafened by the engine.

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[John Barrett]

If you've put something into the engine bay, which is a modification you'd need to be able to ensure it complies with all standards for safety. It would be difficult to do that on a home created modification. Is there is risk it could dislodge and either fall into a moving part, or indeed off the vehicle, perhaps interfering with steering and braking? Worse is it made of truly inert materials so it will neither be combustible, won't give off any toxic fumes, if there is fire nearby, can't melt, and won't cause something else to overheat. I'd suggest the garage owner, rather than appearing to be a jobsworth could have done you a favour by identifying it and removing it.

If, might and risk have been taken care of. Not difficult for a qualified engineer...

 

[Ivory55]

But if he did anything then the responsibility falls to him. Now days nobody wants the blame to much hassle for no reward. Best keep things simple.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

I think the mot guy was pretty reasonable. I suppose if it was a home made cover as you say, can be put back eadily

 

[Geo]

On what grounds would he have failed it Genuine question?

 

[glenn2926]

As I said earlier, I’ve never heard of an engine blanket or felt my engine needed one. I do think the tester did you a favour by removing it instead of just failing it. Whether you’re an engineer or not doesn’t really have any bearing on it. The mechanic testing it doesn’t know if you are skilled or competent enough to modify a motor vehicle. The manufacturer of the vehicle didn’t seem to think it needed a blanket so didn’t fit one.

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[glenn2926]

On what grounds would he have failed it Genuine question?

I would guess because he couldn’t have guaranteed that wrapping a blanket over the engine would be safe. Could it catch on moving parts, could it come into contact with very hot components and therefore cause a fire in the engine compartment?
I’ve never heard of an engine blanket, has anyone else?

 

[Kannon Fodda]

If, might and risk have been taken care of. Not difficult for a qualified engineer...

I'm not a qualified engineer. But vehicles will need to comply with construction and use regulations amongst other stuff. Components, even for the more customised vehicles, will usually have been subjected to a comprehensive design and testing regime to establish suitability. Your garage will have seen the modification and in the absence of documentation that shows compliance (H&S type paperwork today runs the world), they won't have been able to permit the change. If you can show compliance, which no doubt is more than simply you saying it's OK, then you'd be permitted to keep it - but also be careful that your insurers don't see something as a modification that they also want to approve.

 

[Landy Andy]

Yep I’ve heard of them before.
this sort of thing

Noisekillers Limited

Noisekillers Limited

www.nkgroup.co.uk

 

[rangi]

Our garage removes the dash cam from the w/screen before they start the MOT

 

[Geo]

The MoT tester is not really allowed an opinion, he must select from a tick box a relevant fail criteria, i was asking which one he would have ticked ?

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[Littlewheels]

Since when did an MOT require the Bonnet lifting? It didn’t.

 

[Geo]

Our garage removes the dash cam from the w/screen before they start the MOT

Stick it to the dash and he cant comment

 

[tonyidle]

Since when did an MOT require the Bonnet lifting? It didn’t.

Oil temperature check for emissions test.

 

[rangi]

Stick it to the dash and he cant comment

Got enough trouble keeping it stuck to the W/SCREEN

 

[Littlewheels]

Oil temperature check for emissions test.

Never seen that,emissions via exhaust with sensors.

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[Falcon 269]

Since when did an MOT require the Bonnet lifting? It didn’t.

Check the engine number and VIN plate match the documentation, I imagine. Or condition of suspension strut top mounts, engine mounts - lots of things worth looking at under the hood.

 

[tonyidle]

Never seen that,emissions via exhaust with sensors.

Always done it for mine. The emissions machine won't allow the test to start if the engine isn't up to temperature. The emissions test itself obviously uses an exhaust probe.

 

[tonyidle]

Our garage removes the dash cam from the w/screen before they start the MOT

If it's within the swept area as specified by the MoT he has no option. Other than failing the vehicle of course. Given some of the places I've seen satnavs and cameras stuck I'd like to do the same .

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

They will also check battery security under the bonnet, needs to be bolted down, ie securely in position.

 

[TheBig1]

Got enough trouble keeping it stuck to the W/SCREEN

get a shiny smooth pad stuck to the dashboard and attach to that. The same as for satnavs cost about £3 including the 3m sticky pad. Clean and degrease the area before sticking and they are bloody hard to pull off again

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[Clipgate]

AEC 760
Great engine

 

[Geo]

Since when did an MOT require the Bonnet lifting? It didn’t.

Since the year dot always has been a requirement

 

[olley]

Mot testers think they know everything.

 

[busbuddy]

Our '59 zephyr has an engine diaper and gearbox blanket but dont need an mot anymore, never had a problem when it did though
Unless he is your friend I find it odd he removed the part before he mot'd it, should have just refused to test

 

[Geo]

Not all of em Olley only meeeee
98% of testers are afraid of their own shadows
In fact thinking about bonnets it's a Fail if i cant open it

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