MH / PVC width

[Waitforme]

I was of the understanding that MH were a good bit wider than PVCs.
But I happened to notice the widths quoted in the brochures and it appears that MH at 7' 7" are only 3 inches wider than PVCs at 7' 4" ?
Am I missing something or do the MH just give the impression of being much wider because of the boxy shape ?

 

[Riverbankannie]

I think my Ducato is just over 6ft 8 inches. Certainly I cannot lie down on a transverse bed.

 

[Lenny HB]

PVCs at 7' 4"

Fiat 2.08m Fords are even narrower.

A Fiat PVC is 2.08 m (6' 10"), a narrow coachbuilt like the Hymer Exsis or DL is 2.21 m(7'3"), a majority of modern CB are 2.35m(7'8") and a few are 2.4 m.7'10½".

 

[Guigsy]

A residential road or minor road can still be classed as standard at a narrow 5.5m. It's not so much how wide you are, but how much breathing room you've got left in your lane.

 

[Lenny HB]

A residential road or minor road can still be classed as standard at a narrow 5.5m. It's not so much how wide you are, but how much breathing room you've got left in your lane.

Everyone knows vans get narrower when you take a deep intake of breath and close your eyes.

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[Ninjabob]

New Baileys 8ft2in or 9ft1in to the mirrors. Not for the faint hearted on minor roads!

 

[Tea Bag]

Everyone knows vans get narrower when you take a deep intake of breath and close your eyes.

Hi.
You missed out...."Speeding up"..
Tea Bag.."Coming through!!"

 

[Terry]

Hi the measurements are wing mirror sizes hence not a lot between them ...internal usable sizes are very different on PVCs ...Fiat types are widest with 6 ft 2 ins usable width next is Renault at 5 ft 10 ins then Transit 5 ft 9 ins along with Iveco then VW and Merc 5 ft 8 ins ...not measured the new mercs and VW yet but they look to have only had face lifts

 

[Lenny HB]

Hi the measurements are wing mirror sizes

Vehicle widths are always given as body width excluding mirrors.

 

[Terry]

Vehicle widths are always given as body width excluding mirrors.

Did not know that so stand corrected it still does not alter usable interior width which is what is important if converting a panel van

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[River gypsys]

I know I'm being thick but what is a pvc please

 

[Dilwyn]

Panel Van Conversion.

 

[River gypsys]

Panel Van Conversion.

Of course, I am blonde ya know

 

[Tea Bag]

I know I'm being thick but what is a pvc please

Hi.
Just to avoid ANY confusion,my Mummy told me to keep away from "PVC Clad Blondes!!" So be careful what you wish for,or you may get a ......Panel van conversion!!
Tea Bag

 

[Emmit]

I think my Ducato is just over 6ft 8 inches. Certainly I cannot lie down on a transverse bed.

Jeez Annie!

I never had you as a Basketball player!!!

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[Riverbankannie]

Jeez Annie!

I never had you as a Basketball player!!!

Bed at home is 7ft long, specially ordered!
When lying down you have to take into account a pillow normally, for comfort, your head is not up against the headboard. Then when lying on my side, I find I stretch one leg and then the foot is naturally pointed a bit, and my feet are quite long too!

 

[Waitforme]

Still confused.
Autotrail quote a width of 2.27m as do Roller Team.
Globecar quote width of 2.05m .

All fiat based , all PVCs.

Maybe Fiat make different widths on vans !!

 

[Riverbankannie]

Still confused.
Autotrail quote a width of 2.27m as do Roller Team.
Globecar quote width of 2.05m .

All fiat based , all PVCs.

Maybe Fiat make different widths on vans !!

I converted my Fiat Ducato width of 2.05m to feet and inches in my post as that was how you started.
As far as I know that’s the standard width of the Ducato excluding mirrors. We have the short arm wing mirrors and I’m currently looking out of the window to determine if Autotrails figure could possible include wing mirrors but I think they add more than 10 cm per side.

 

[nicholsong]

I do not want to get into the discussion about individual model widths.

However, it is empiracally obvious that, whereas a PVC maintains its width from the cab width rearwards, a coachbuilt widens behind the 'cab' area, so a coachbuilt must be quite a bit wider than the original 'van' as produced at the factory, whatever that width is.

Geoff

 

[Waitforme]

I'm getting my metres and inches mixed up Riverbankannie !

Im thinking it must be the wing mirrors that are causing my confusion as you initially thought.

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[Waitforme]

Agree nicolsong but was confused with the quoted widths

 

[mikebeaches]

As Lenny said, widths are quoted excluding external mirrors.

Fiat Ducato vans (Peugeot & Citroen also) are 2.05 metres wide.

Typical coach-built motorhome 2.3 metres wide.

So a PVC, on average, is a foot narrower! May not sound a lot, but makes a heck of a difference.

And in reality, it's even more because most coach-builts have hugely long sticky-out mirror arms.

 

[Blue Knight]

Agree nicolsong but was confused with the quoted widths

You're probably confused because of the published Autotrail literature which IMO is a bit dodgy.

I have a Globecar 6.36m long on a Fiat chassis and it's body, excluding all mirrors and the mirror mounts is 2.05m wide.

I've just checked the equivalent length van in Autotrail guise and after a quick measure-up of my own Globecar it appears that Autotrail is still counting the mirror mounts and a small part of the folded mirror in their literature.

........so in theory a Globecar is 2.05m and the body of a V-line is the same albeit it may be 2-3cm wider because of its blobby windows.

You're not going mad.

All the best,

Andrew

 

[Theonlysue]

The newer MLT model (mercedes based) hymers are 222 cms wide. 7ft 3 1/2 inches in old money

 

[Waitforme]

Thanks guys.
PS Bluekinght. I read your thread on buying your Summit in depth.
I'm thinking Globecar is the way to go .....

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[Blue Knight]

Thanks guys.
PS Bluekinght. I read your thread on buying your Summit in depth.
I'm thinking Globecar is the way to go .....

It's a good pedigree but the thing about Globecar owners is they're continously trying to modify and pimp their vans.

The brand seems to attract a very adventurous group of folk.

Good luck

 

[Riverbankannie]

Still confused.
Autotrail quote a width of 2.27m as do Roller Team.
Globecar quote width of 2.05m .

All fiat based , all PVCs.

Maybe Fiat make different widths on vans !!

Ah the overall width of 2.27 includes a FOLDED wing mirrors.

 

[Waitforme]

Ah the overall width of 2.27 includes a FOLDED wing mirrors.

Thanks Annie from the riverbank.

 

[SpeedyDux]

The width you can handle under actual road conditions is directly proportional to your sphincter control.

 

[nicholsong]

The width you can handle under actual road conditions is directly proportional to your sphincter control.

Reminds me of the expression used by my flying instructor :-

"Never get into a situation where your sphincter is going sixpence,half a crown,sixpence,half a crown......."

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