Making mobile call using hands free is as dangerous as hand held calls.

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A group of MPs are proposing that Hands Free calling should be treated the same as hand held calls with the same penalty's. MPs obviously haven't got enough to think about already with a Brexit deal.. Any thoughts....
 
I request passengers not to converse with me, it is very distracting. More so than a quick hands free call, but that may be because I don't get interesting phone calls.
 
Watching discussions on TV this morning no one was specific on what hands free referred to, most new cars now have inbuilt bluetooth connectivity some with voice control , controls on steering wheel and microphones in roof lining etc.
Are they suggesting calls using inbuilt equipment would be illegal ?
 
I have seen many drivers greatly distracted by talking to passengers, fractious children etc, should they also be banned?
Depends on gender matamoros, my experience is that men have no problem in talking or managing children while driving as they have no problem in processing more than one thing at a time. Now women on the other hand(n), I think I have said enough.....;)(y)
 
Watching discussions on TV this morning no one was specific on what hands free referred to, most new cars now have inbuilt bluetooth connectivity some with voice control , controls on steering wheel and microphones in roof lining etc.
Are they suggesting calls using inbuilt equipment would be illegal ?
Looks like it when you are driving Larry....
 
A group of MPs are proposing that Hands Free calling should be treated the same as hand held calls with the same penalty's. MPs obviously haven't got enough to think about already with a Brexit deal.. Any thoughts....

Same as talking to passengers then. One thing I try not to do.
 
What is being missed is that there are a lot of people who drive , that are struggling to deal with any sensory input . Probably at the other end of the spectrum to Lewis Hamilton . :)

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I remember having to look down at the gear stick when I was learning to drive, so let's get gears and clutches banned. Whilst we are at it just trying to find the right switch/lever/button on today's cars is an exercise of Rubic cube proportions so MMI et al should be banned. Now where is that Air con switch?
 
Around twenty years ago I was responsible, in part, for updating our company Health and Safety Policy Document. We clearly stated that hands free phones should not be used whilst driving as they were a distraction. Hands free was relatively new then and death of a director at the wheel whilst using a hands free phone caused us to re-examine the case for them.
 
In op manual of Govt agency I worked for they said that satnav should not be touched or looked at whilst driving I kid you not , it went on that you should pull over and stop before consulting the sat nav .
I personally believe that solo traveling with children is one of the most dangerous things whilst driving .
My wife drove our Range Rover off the road into trees when we lived in Australia , I was following in another car, due to being momentarily distracted by our baby daughter . Luckily no injury to daughter , and minor to wife . Over the years I have been to several RTC where similar cause, some with not so lucky result .
 
If research shows the danger is as high hands free it would make sense to either allow all phone use or ban it all.
 
Looks like it when you are driving Larry....

They were not specific Buttons only referring to hand held and Bluetooth devices.

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If they ban phones because they are a distraction they should also ban the carrying of older people, young siblings, toddlers and babies, the use of music/noise including radios, sat navs. #biggerthingstoworryabout
Like what are Dorset Police up to?

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Spotted on my way to work this morning.
Edit and ban the wearing of headphones by cyclists.
 
If they ban phones because they are a distraction they should also ban the carrying of older people, young siblings, toddlers and babies, the use of music/noise including radios, sat navs. #biggerthingstoworryabout
Like what are Dorset Police up to?

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Spotted on my way to work this morning.
Edit and ban the wearing of headphones by cyclists.
Driving on Trade Plates?
 
I have a sign up in my motor home ..NO MOBILE PHONES .

For me it is equally distracting to have a passenger on their phone .. talking gibberish to her friends .. or the phone 'pinging' every two minutes when on a busy motorway. If I ruled the world there is so much that I would 'uninvent' technology wise.

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Has anyone quantified the risk posed by using a hands free in the car ? I saw today in the paper that in 2017 43 deaths and 730 injuries were attributed to MOBILE PHONE use in a vehicle collision, but it did not say how many were due to HELD mobiles and how many to hands free !!

So maybe none were due to hands free usage ? Or maybe 40 deaths ? Who knows and if the Authorities are not saying and producing the figures then I am very suspicious.
 
On the Today programme this morning there was an interviewee quoting research, I can't remember who by, who stated that talking on a hands free was more distracting than talking to someone in the vehicle because of the extra mental imagery involved in thinking of the caller.

I am not too sure about that but I know that talking on hands free can be distracting but I have my doubts that it is any more distracting than talking to someone in the vehicle or the many other distractions possible when driving.
 
I have a sign up in my motor home ..NO MOBILE PHONES .

For me it is equally distracting to have a passenger on their phone .. talking gibberish to her friends .. or the phone 'pinging' every two minutes when on a busy motorway. If I ruled the world there is so much that I would 'uninvent' technology wise.
Depends on gender, my experience is that men have no problem in talking or managing children while driving as they have no problem in processing more than one thing at a time. Now women on the other hand(n), I think I have said enough.....;)(y)
:) Didn't I tell you so Miss ;) :giggle:
How about some head phones with noise cancelling. I keep a set of Bose in the car, very useful when passengers are of the female variety. ;)

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Has anyone quantified the risk posed by using a hands free in the car ? I saw today in the paper that in 2017 43 deaths and 730 injuries were attributed to MOBILE PHONE use in a vehicle collision, but it did not say how many were due to HELD mobiles and how many to hands free !!

So maybe none were due to hands free usage ? Or maybe 40 deaths ? Who knows and if the Authorities are not saying and producing the figures then I am very suspicious.
I think the quote was that "it was a contributory factor" not exclusively. Furthermore like all journalists they did not say the true complete data, just sensational out of context bits.
 
With us, mostly two people in the car and passenger can converse over the built in Bluetooth so how would you prove driver use ?
 
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I personally hate it when people talk to me when I am driving as I find it normally spoils the film that I am watching on the dash.

Especially after a beer to two.
how can you concentrate on a film after a beer or two, I usually have a nap ?
 
What gets my goat is the stupid warning that comes up every time on most satnavs telling you not to operate it while driving. You have to press something to get rid of the message and by then you are usually driving, nobody reads the d..mned thing anyway and its just a distraction. It shouldn't be beyond possibility for it to self cancel after 30seconds or so. Or indeed come up once a day or something.

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