London Ultra Low Emission Zone being extended (1 Viewer)

[mitzimad]

Thank goodness for that, for a minute I thought it was being wasted on the bus and tube network
Since you appear so knowledgeable, whereabouts are the 1000's of mile of cycle route? I can only find about just over 500 in the whole of London.

does that include the miles theyve added due to corona virus ask a cab driver how bad theyve been affected

 

[pagey]

My cousin and 2 friends have packed in cabbing

 

[mitzimad]

My cousin and 2 friends have packed in cabbing

mate of mine has 120 cabs he rents out at the moment he has 21 rented out the rest are parked anywhere he can get space most of his family have one to run around in

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[emjaiuk]

500 too many.

Was that meant to be a serious post?

 

[jongood]

Any cyclist with half a brain should know they will always come of worse colliding with a motor vehicle,,why do they need a sticker to tell them the obvious? BUSBY.

The stickers are the new French regulation, the Granny botherer thinks these are the answer

Attention Danger Angles Morts Bus Decal

Sticker Caution Danger Dead Angles Bus Following the new French regulation all heavy vehicles > 3 5 tons trucks buses will have to be equipped with this sticker Attention Angles Morts on the sides and at the rear from January 1st 2021 Official adhesive of 25 x 17 cm high quality printing +...

lezebre.lu

 

[Ninjabob]

Was that meant to be a serious post?

Depends if you are a Black Cab Driver. One bad winter and the folly of these cycle lanes will finally be laid bare. Efficient Public Transport is the answer .

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[2x2camper]

It has already been stated, if it's about pollution then vehicles of certain types, those that create most pollution should be banned, it shouldn't be about ability to pay.

No problem with that. Just ban motor vehicles then apart from public transport and essential deliveries. The only problem is people will winge about it. Including people on here.

 

[2x2camper]

Depends if you are a Black Cab Driver. One bad winter and the folly of these cycle lanes will finally be laid bare. Efficient Public Transport is the answer .

That will be these I assume

Removed London bike lane blocked by parked cars most of the time – study

Analysis shows average car journey times have also increased after Kensington and Chelsea council took out lane

www.theguardian.com

 

[glenn2926]

No problem with that. Just ban motor vehicles then apart from public transport and essential deliveries. The only problem is people will winge about it. Including people on here.

I sort of agree, however I would ban all transport from city centres during the day.
Delivery vehicles can deliver at night. Public transport stations can be on the periphery of the city. I would include bicycles and scooters in my transport ban. Literally allowing only pedestrians. This would keep pedestrians safe from traffic fumes and from the vehicles themselves. The city would become a much nicer and more relaxing place to be.
Not that this would entice me to visit. I don’t really like built up places but it would make it safer and more pleasurable on the usually once a year I’m talked into going to our nearest cities. Which are Leeds or York.

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[2x2camper]

I sort of agree, however I would ban all transport from city centres during the day.
Delivery vehicles can deliver at night. Public transport stations can be on the periphery of the city. I would include bicycles and scooters in my transport ban. Literally allowing only pedestrians. This would keep pedestrians safe from traffic fumes and from the vehicles themselves. The city would become a much nicer and more relaxing place to be.
Not that this would entice me to visit. I don’t really like built up places but it would make it safer and more pleasurable on the usually once a year I’m talked into going to our nearest cities. Which are Leeds or York.

What you got against cycles.

They arean efficient, non polluting method of transport
Tbere isnot really an issue with mixing with people and if there were not motor vehicles there wou,d be more room

 

[glenn2926]

What you got against cycles.

They arean efficient, non polluting method of transport
Tbere isnot really an issue with mixing with people and if there were not motor vehicles there wou,d be more room

They don’t need to be there. Pedestrian zone only. There will be conflict between cyclists and pedestrians, there always is conflict when more than one shares space. Bicycles are not needed and would not travel at walking pace within city centres. There would definitely be collisions between cyclists and pedestrians.
There could be secure parking for cycles around the periphery of the cities.

 

[Nigel P]

Are e-scooters polluters? The environmental impacts of shared dockless electric scooters​

Today, the main study analysing these different phases for electric scooters is one published by North Carolina State University. According to the scientists who conducted it, electric scooters are not really an eco-friendly means of transportation today. In fact, regarding the carbon footprint, scooters emit about 202 g of CO2 per km and per passenger over their entire life cycle. It’s about as much as a conventional car and 3,5 times more than an electric car.

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[Odd job]

Has anyone tried to convert an older vehicle to Euro 6, I have found several converters but most only do trucks or busses I have found one that will convert 4X4 but I have no idea of cost. My daughter has a 6 year old Range Rover and a couple of thousand would be worth it but not much more, she had intended to replace it by now but then she lost all her work with Covid, and £100 a week from UC wont run to a new Range Rover.

 

[Ivory55]

Has anyone tried to convert an older vehicle to Euro 6, I have found several converters but most only do trucks or busses I have found one that will convert 4X4 but I have no idea of cost. My daughter has a 6 year old Range Rover and a couple of thousand would be worth it but not much more, she had intended to replace it by now but then she lost all her work with Covid, and £100 a week from UC wont run to a new Range Rover.

I think it’s like most things cheaper to replace then to convert. I know that they was surprised at the cost when looking into up grading trucks to euro 6 , and just bit the bullet and brought some newer ones for London.

 

[glenn2926]

I think it’s like most things cheaper to replace then to convert. I know that they was surprised at the cost when looking into up grading trucks to euro 6 , and just bit the bullet and brought some newer ones for London.

If it continues to become more and more difficult/expensive to deliver into London does anyone think hauliers will just not bother with London work?
After all there is the rest of the U.K. to deliver to. The last company I drove part time for knew after the first time of asking not to ask me to do London runs.

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[Ivory55]

If it continues to become more and more difficult/expensive to deliver into London does anyone think hauliers will just not bother with London work?
After all there is the rest of the U.K. to deliver to. The last company I drove part time for knew after the first time of asking not to ask me to do London runs.

I won’t do London either, not worth it for the pay, rather a more comfortable day. I think there will always be someone to deliver into London, after all you only have to see how they undercut each other for sixpence. Then complain that there is no money in it.

 

[Ivory55]

Charging is catching on

Tolls, parking charges and other penalties for motorists suggested as part of Clean Air Plan for Wales

TOLLS on major roads in North Wales such as the A55 could be introduced as part of efforts to reduce air pollution in Wales.

www.denbighshirefreepress.co.uk

Wales after the money as well.

 

[gus-lopez]

Was that meant to be a serious post?

Yes.

No problem with that. Just ban motor vehicles then apart from public transport and essential deliveries. The only problem is people will winge about it. Including people on here.

No problem with banning motor vehicles but you ban them all including public transport & deliveries.

Tbere isnot really an issue with mixing with people and if there

Never been hit by one on a crossing then? or the pavement?

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[Neil S]

I sort of agree, however I would ban all transport from city centres during the day.
Delivery vehicles can deliver at night. Public transport stations can be on the periphery of the city. I would include bicycles and scooters in my transport ban. Literally allowing only pedestrians. This would keep pedestrians safe from traffic fumes and from the vehicles themselves. The city would become a much nicer and more relaxing place to be.
Not that this would entice me to visit. I don’t really like built up places but it would make it safer and more pleasurable on the usually once a year I’m talked into going to our nearest cities. Which are Leeds or York.

So if your only allowing pedestrians what about people who cannot walk far or have other debilitating health conditions do we just just bar them from city centres because you don't want any means of transport other than walking allowed .
Shop delivery's at night time Yeah I'm sure that will go down well with many shop workers who would need to be at work to receive goods at 3pm or whatever unsociable time in the morning .
Working nightshift is known to be detrimental to health and wellbeing as it upsets your sleep pattern and most workers don't relish it especially people with families

Charging is catching on

Tolls, parking charges and other penalties for motorists suggested as part of Clean Air Plan for Wales

TOLLS on major roads in North Wales such as the A55 could be introduced as part of efforts to reduce air pollution in Wales.

www.denbighshirefreepress.co.uk

Wales after the money as well.

 

[glenn2926]

So if your only allowing pedestrians what about people who cannot walk far or have other debilitating health conditions do we just just bar them from city centres because you don't want any means of transport other than walking allowed .
Shop delivery's at night time Yeah I'm sure that will go down well with many shop workers who would need to be at work to receive goods at 3pm or whatever unsociable time in the morning .
Working nightshift is known to be detrimental to health and wellbeing as it upsets your sleep pattern and most workers don't relish it especially people with families

be another place I’ll avoid if they start that carry on
Drakeford will be popular if he allows this to go ahead

There would need to be some provision for those that cannot walk. What’s wrong with working nights? I did it for thirty years. Fires don’t stick to daytime hours. I’m married and have children. Shift work was quite often a bonus with regard to child care. With people just putting problems in the way we’ll never move forward. There is absolutely no need for vehicles or bicycles sharing city space with people.

 

[Neil S]

There would need to be some provision for those that cannot walk. What’s wrong with working nights? I did it for thirty years. Fires don’t stick to daytime hours. I’m married and have children. Shift work was quite often a bonus with regard to child care. With people just putting problems in the way we’ll never move forward. There is absolutely no need for vehicles or bicycles sharing city space with people.

Well you were fortunate , I could never adapt to 5 shifts on nights on and two nights at home
Ended up being exhausted by the the end of the week because of disturbed sleep pattern and being unable to get a decent deep sleep during daylight hours

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[jongood]

Charging is catching on

Tolls, parking charges and other penalties for motorists suggested as part of Clean Air Plan for Wales

TOLLS on major roads in North Wales such as the A55 could be introduced as part of efforts to reduce air pollution in Wales.

www.denbighshirefreepress.co.uk

Wales after the money as well.

This is incredibly short sighted. Why would you try and get people off main arterial roads like the A55 and onto the old roads? and the timing is just ridiculous.

 

[jongood]

What you got against cycles.

They arean efficient, non polluting method of transport
Tbere isnot really an issue with mixing with people and if there were not motor vehicles there wou,d be more room

All good points but they might find they run out of Pumpkin Spiced Lattes and Focaccia pretty quickly.

 

[2x2camper]

All good points but they might find they run out of Pumpkin Spiced Lattes and Focaccia pretty quickly.

Eh?

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[jongood]

Eh?

No vehicles = no food mate. No way will you find enough drivers or shop staff prepared to work all night to keep London supplied.

 

[2x2camper]

No vehicles = no food mate. No way will you find enough drivers or shop staff prepared to work all night to keep London supplied.

I don't think i have suggested no vehicles or even just at night.

However we need to do something more drastic then we are doing at the moment.

 

[jongood]

However we need to do something more drastic then we are doing at the moment.

I agree but it should encompass both ends of the problem, the missing link seems to be accountability for the rogue cycling element IMO. Why can't we require cyclists in London to be registered? Maybe a camera readable code on their helmets?

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[Neil S]

This is incredibly short sighted. Why would you try and get people off main arterial roads like the A55 and onto the old roads? and the timing is just ridiculous.

Is Mark Drakeford popular as the Welsh first minister ?
Not according to my friends in South Wales
Could well go against him at the next elections

 

[2x2camper]

I agree but it should encompass both ends of the problem, the missing link seems to be accountability for the rogue cycling element IMO. Why can't we require cyclists in London to be registered? Maybe a camera readable code on their helmets?

Picking on cyclists is just deflecting the problem.

The issue is motor vehicles.

Readable codes ie registration numbers really does solve problems caused by vehicles.

 

[jongood]

Picking on cyclists is just deflecting the problem.

The issue is motor vehicles.

Readable codes ie registration numbers really does solve problems caused by vehicles.

Both are at fault IMO, the hooligan cyclist element in London in particular are a real problem.

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