Lithium vs Lead Acid. Some Facts !

[PhilandMena]

For Your Information. Enjoy.

 

[TheAleMan]

Watched this yesterday, very interesting stuff. Our next van will deffo have lithium on board.

 

[DBK]

Haven't got fifteen minutes to watch it so what is the result?

 

[eddie]

Lithium is better!

 

[LesW]

Lithium is better!

Until the world runs out of it..

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[MANGOFORTH]

Until the world runs out of it..

Real positive vibes your putting out there Marvin ??

Life is great until the world runs out of oxygen....

 

[nicholsong]

I would be interested to know what the results would be in our use with lead/acid but charged most days by Sterling's B2B.

I may call Sterling, as I have 2 lead/acid 90Ah batteries which a 6 years old but seem to be doing well with a combination of the B2B when on the move and EHU at home, but never when touring.

Geoff

 

[Robert Clark]

Haven't got fifteen minutes to watch it so what is the result?

Lithium won on price / lifespan
However they didn’t take into account the weight / space benefits

 

[drago35uk]

Unconvinced

 

[Jim]

Lithium won on price / lifespan
However they didn’t take into account the weight / space benefits

Weight and space are great, but in real world use it's speed of charge for me

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[Robert Clark]

Weight and space are great, but in real world use it's speed of charge for me

They didn’t take that into account either.

Though in their defence it was a test purely about value / lifespan

 

[LesW]

Real positive vibes your putting out there

Sorry to burst your bubble, do some research about what's involved getting it out of the ground, it's not the wonder material it's made out to be.

 

[Lenny HB]

Sorry to burst your bubble, do some research about what's involved getting it out of the ground, it's not the wonder material it's made out to be.

If they were mining Lithium in the EU it would have been banned years ago.

 

[Steve and Denise]

If they were mining Lithium in the EU it would have been banned years ago.

Anything to do with the EU is always banned, it’s just a way of life??

 

[Taran_Las]

Haven't got fifteen minutes to watch it so what is the result?

They all die in the end ​

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[Graydo]

I'm more concerned with how temperature affects the lifespan.
This last week in Scotland the temp has struggled to get above 4 degrees during the day and down to -2 at night.
How does Lithium cope with that over an entire winter (or worse).

Graydo

 

[olley]

If they were mining Lithium in the EU it would have been banned years ago.

British Lithium | Battery grade lithium produced from Cornish granite

 

[Pausim]

Sorry to burst your bubble, do some research about what's involved getting it out of the ground, it's not the wonder material it's made out to be.

Neither is lead. The mining and smelting of lead has serious environmental consequences too.

 

[Robert Clark]

I'm more concerned with how temperature affects the lifespan.
This last week in Scotland the temp has struggled to get above 4 degrees during the day and down to -2 at night.
How does Lithium cope with that over an entire winter (or worse).

Graydo

Lithium batteries have a battery management system which controls charging at very low temperatures

 

[Lenny HB]

I'm more concerned with how temperature affects the lifespan.
This last week in Scotland the temp has struggled to get above 4 degrees during the day and down to -2 at night.
How does Lithium cope with that over an entire winter (or worse).

Graydo

The battery management unit won't allow them to charge if it's too cold.
So if it's too cold and they are too low to start the heating and you are relying on solar to charge them you are stuffed.
I doubt if you would actually get into that situation in normal use.

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[Graydo]

Lithium batteries have a battery management system which controls charging at very low temperatures

But what if it's not charging,
i.e in storage?

Graham

 

[Jim]

I'm more concerned with how temperature affects the lifespan.

It was a problem but it's been overcome, some Lithiums cope with charging in -20

 

[Jim]

But what if it's not charging,

Cold won't hurt them, Only incorrectly charging when cold

 

[HandyAndy]

The battery management unit won't allow them to charge if it's too cold.
So if it's too cold and they are too low to start the heating and you are relying on solar to charge them you are stuffed.
I doubt if you would actually get into that situation in normal use.

You do exactly the same as you would when your water tank gets cold... WARM IT UP

 

[Graydo]

Thanks,
Has anyone actually operated a Lithium system for 5 years or more in their van?

Graydo

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[HandyAndy]

Until the world runs out of it..

The world will run out of everything eventually so what's your point?

 

[Robert Clark]

But what if it's not charging,
i.e in storage?

Graham

The battery management system stops charging when too cold

 

[LesW]

The world will run out of everything eventually so what's your point?

Very clever reply... that'll make everthing ok then..

 

[HandyAndy]

Very clever reply... that'll make everthing ok then..

Ever heard of that little word called RECYCLE

 

[Lenny HB]

You do exactly the same as you would when your water tank gets cold... WARM IT UP

That was my point if the battery is too low for the heating to work your stuffed.
In practice you would probably go for a drive.

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