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Is this the beginning of the end for Diesel vehicles. (1 Viewer)

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The price differential between petrol and diesel has now jumped to 25p litre and it is only moving in one direction.
 

Minxy

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I wondered what this thread was going to be about as I though 'vesicles' could mean anything! :LOL: :wink:
 
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We are all at the mercy of "the markets" I'm afraid. Oil prices (therefore forecourt prices) will go up and down, but I'm not expecting Diesel to ever be less than £1.50/Litre ever again.

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I filled up last night at 169.9 close to home.....passed garages (inc morrisons) today up near Beverley that were 190+
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We are all at the mercy of "the markets" I'm afraid. Oil prices (therefore forecourt prices) will go up and down, but I'm not expecting Diesel to ever be less than £1.50/Litre ever again.
Diesel oil demand compared to supply is very high right now due to Russian issues and also winter stocking. Likewise, Gasoline demand is very much lower
 

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I filled up last night at 169.9 close to home.....passed garages (inc morrisons) today up near Beverley that were 190+
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I managed 177 at Tesco Cleethorpes yesterday. But that was the Car, not the van. Next trip is in a couple of weeks so will probably swing by Morrisons or Asda on the way back to keep topped up (always leave the tanks full if possible to reduce possible condensation issues
 
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Don’t think so (end of diesel) - given the current state of the economy and cuts that all departments are going to have to make not just this year but year on year going forward, my own view is that trying to get the likes of the infrastructure ready by 2030 for electric vehicles may well be at risk re funding, etc - just my opinion…….
 

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I wonder what the current situation would be if we had not all been taken in by the 1990's "Diesel is Safer" Con ?? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Actually not correct. I follow fuel supply pricing and demand for shipping which is wholly price driven plus receive daily news feeds from organisations such as Platts. Someone might take the opportunity to make a bit of money but by far the major dynamics are as stated in my post above. Don't believe everything you read about fuel prices in the MSM - it give me a good laugh some days and facepalm on others
 
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Diesel is almost heating oil which demand rises in winter .. therefore supply and demand has caused rising prices.
 
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I managed 177 at Tesco Cleethorpes yesterday. But that was the Car, not the van. Next trip is in a couple of weeks so will probably swing by Morrisons or Asda on the way back to keep topped up (always leave the tanks full if possible to reduce possible condensation issues
Locally at least (Tavistock) fuel prices at Morrisons have been at least as high as main road branded filling stations. Not always so. Since they were bought out about a year or so ago, their prices generally have been moving steadily upwards. Other supermarket fuel prices nearby like Tesco and esp Sainsburys have wavered but are often a good bit lower.

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Jun 30, 2011
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The official line is "Supply and Demand"
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I wonder what the current situation would be if we had not all been taken in by the 1990's "Diesel is Safer" Con ?? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Yes it’s funny that did they not have the knowledge or science back in the 90s, why was diesel said to be much better then now it’s not?
It’s just scaremongering saying you won’t be able to drive a diesel anywhere soon. Big city centres maybe but everywhere else fine.

I know someone who’s just spent well over 300 grand on a new diesel Concorde he doesn’t seem concerned.
 

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Yes it’s funny that did they not have the knowledge or science back in the 90s, why was diesel said to be much better then now it’s not?
It’s just scaremongering saying you won’t be able to drive a diesel anywhere soon. Big city centres maybe but everywhere else fine.

I know someone who’s just spent well over 300 grand on a new diesel Concorde he doesn’t seem concerned.
Iir, diesel Co2 emissions were lower than petrol. So buy diesel. Then they told us diesel particulates were nasty and told manufacturers we were evil for using them, so forced manufacturers to install efficiency sapping filters etc to reduce the particulates. Once we have all migrated to electric, they will tell us we should be buying something else. We must of course pay more every time.

I’ve seen stats in the past that show how high emissions are from buses, trucks etc. compared to cars. Thats never presented to us nowadays though.

Use what suits you. I have one of each! (Though the electric is a 125cc equivalent scooter. I last used it yesterday).
 

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Locally at least (Tavistock) fuel prices at Morrisons have been at least as high as main road branded filling stations. Not always so. Since they were bought out about a year or so ago, their prices generally have been moving steadily upwards. Other supermarket fuel prices nearby like Tesco and esp Sainsburys have wavered but are often a good bit lower.
I always check on PetrolPrices.com
 
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Yes it’s funny that did they not have the knowledge or science back in the 90s, why was diesel said to be much better then now it’s not?
It’s just scaremongering saying you won’t be able to drive a diesel anywhere soon. Big city centres maybe but everywhere else fine.

I know someone who’s just spent well over 300 grand on a new diesel Concorde he doesn’t seem concerned.
A bit like Obama spending 5.7 million dollars on a beach front property in Hawaii. Probably he has insider information on rising sea levels ?
 
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Diesel is a bit pricy in Greece at the moment. The other day we filled up in Finikunda, around 10am, for 1.84 Euro.
After doing a bit of shopping in the nearby town of Pylos we drove past the Finikunda filling station. The price had risen to 2.20 Euro.

The filling station owner is a decent man and commented how lucky we had been in the morning.

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