Is it me ?

lamyj

lamyj

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Just trawling through internet looking for small coastal sites - the cost of staying on CL / CS or small independant sites has rocketed. £24 - £30 + EHU
Hate the thought but might as well stay at club sites / Parks with all the facilities ?
What's this about charging £5 per night for EHU - going to invest in an inverter sure it will pay for itself in the long run.
Don't tell me the excuse is Brexit -
Guess will be heading back to France next year if they will still have us - certainly very welcoming on our past trips over, long may it continue
 
That is why we never use sites in the UK. They charge for dogs, awnings, water, electric, children and anything else they can come up with.
For example, we are on a Stellplatz on the Mosel paying 48 Euros per week and 12 Euros per week for 16 amp electric. How people can afford to camp in the UK I do not know. It would be cheaper to go into a hotel than some of the big sites.
 
Snowbird said:
That is why we never use sites in the UK. They charge for dogs, awnings, water, electric, children and anything else they can come up with.
For example, we are on a Stellplatz on the Mosel paying 48 Euros per week and 12 Euros per week for 16 amp electric. How people can afford to camp in the UK I do not know. It would be cheaper to go into a hotel than some of the big sites.
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Even at those very reasonable rates some FLT’s will try it on.
Parked on the same Stellplatz, quite close to us, are two Dutch vans.
Yesterday evening there were a number of vans leaving after the weekend when I saw one of the ‘Cloggies’ unplug his electric lead and roll it up.
I assumed he was also leaving but was surprised when he was still there much later.
Of course, it was almost time for the chap to come round to collect the money.
As it happened the cash was collected this morning and I couldn’t help notice a little later, well after the collector had gone, than his electric cable was magically plugged back in.
As Snowbird says there is 16a hookup here for 2€ per day yet some are too tight to even pay that.
Incidentally, the ‘Cloggie’ has a newish Hymer A class so is not exactly penny less.

Unbelievable behaviour.

Richard
 
Snowbird said:
How people can afford to camp in the UK I do not know. It would be cheaper to go into a hotel than some of the big sites.
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I've just come to the opposite conclusion. I've wandered around the UK a bit on my bike using B&B. I've come to the conclusion it would be cheaper, but not as much fun, doing it in the MH. Some B&B prices are plain silly, then add in meals and the MH wins financially.

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Clarky said:
Even at those very reasonable rates some FLT’s will try it on.
Parked on the same Stellplatz, quite close to us, are two Dutch vans.
Yesterday evening there were a number of vans leaving after the weekend when I saw one of the ‘Cloggies’ unplug his electric lead and roll it up.
I assumed he was also leaving but was surprised when he was still there much later.
Of course, it was almost time for the chap to come round to collect the money.
As it happened the cash was collected this morning and I couldn’t help notice a little later, well after the collector had gone, than his electric cable was magically plugged back in.
As Snowbird says there is 16a hookup here for 2€ per day yet some are too tight to even pay that.
Incidentally, the ‘Cloggie’ has a newish Hymer A class so is not exactly penny less.

Unbelievable behaviour.

Richard
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That really is pathetic. More effort than the 2€ saving!!
 
Clarky said:
Even at those very reasonable rates some FLT’s will try it on.
Parked on the same Stellplatz, quite close to us, are two Dutch vans.
Yesterday evening there were a number of vans leaving after the weekend when I saw one of the ‘Cloggies’ unplug his electric lead and roll it up.
I assumed he was also leaving but was surprised when he was still there much later.
Of course, it was almost time for the chap to come round to collect the money.
As it happened the cash was collected this morning and I couldn’t help notice a little later, well after the collector had gone, than his electric cable was magically plugged back in.
As Snowbird says there is 16a hookup here for 2€ per day yet some are too tight to even pay that.
Incidentally, the ‘Cloggie’ has a newish Hymer A class so is not exactly penny less.

Unbelievable behaviour.

Richard
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A friend of mine was on an aire and it was 1 euro to fill up with water. The Germans and Dutch had a hosepipe running from the water closet flush thing and were flushing water into their vans that way to save a euro??
 
hilldweller said:
I've just come to the opposite conclusion. I've wandered around the UK a bit on my bike using B&B. I've come to the conclusion it would be cheaper, but not as much fun, doing it in the HM. Some B&B prices are plain silly, then add in meals and the MH wins financially.
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I've always thought that B&Bs and hotels in the UK are more expensive than the continent.
I don't think it's their fault, just the huge costs of running a business in the UK.

I'm also a bit puzzled why some people use so much electricity. Apart from a compressor fridge that should average out at around 20 watts what do they do with it??
 
lamyj said:
Just trawling through internet looking for small coastal sites - the cost of staying on CL / CS or small independant sites has rocketed. £24 - £30 + EHU
Hate the thought but might as well stay at club sites / Parks with all the facilities ?
What's this about charging £5 per night for EHU - going to invest in an inverter sure it will pay for itself in the long run.
Don't tell me the excuse is Brexit -
Guess will be heading back to France next year if they will still have us - certainly very welcoming on our past trips over, long may it continue
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It’s exactly to do with brexit.... uk is a rip off in the first place and now they think people will stay in uk for their holidays because of uncertainty they think we’ll put the prices up then rip em off some more...:doh:
Silly fools that give them the money.... leaves more space for me over the water..??
 
I dunno, a fiver might seem steep for electric use, but a lot of MH's will be capable of chewing through a fair bit. Many have heating / hot water that will alternate between gas and electric. Some are lucky enough to have aircon. There is obviously also lighting (even with LEDs) and some will top off their batteries. And of we're increasing use of TV's computers and other toys. Many will recharge e-bike, scooter and other batteries. Oh and if you are going to hook up, and you know it's a fixed cost, human nature is that saving the planet goes out the window and we'll turn on everything we can.

You might not need a fiver's worth, but when you also consider the cost of first installing, and then maintaining the wiring system I suspect there isn't that much of a profit.

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Thought the idea of going away to chill - get away from the day to day drudge ?
Can understand EHU charge in winter with the heating on but even then £5 still seems steep
 
£25 per night may sound cheep for a weekend away in the van, but for those of us that do trips of 90 days a couple of times per year we would have to be a retired politician or banker.
 
We are quite new to the MH life but loving it, not sure if anyone's stayed on the new Love2stay site in shrewsbury, we stayed not long after it had opened and yes it was lovely and luxurious, I looked on website to book a weekend in Aug but had shot up in price from just over £50 for 2 nights last year to £58 PER NIGHT now!!!!! no chance I'm paying that.....just a rip off ?
 
Just smiffy said:
stay in uk for their holidays because of uncertainty they think we’ll put the prices up
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I've always thought the UK B&B and hotels were more expensive than the continent - even 20 years ago. I could have got worse of course, but the prices have nudged me away for years!

Kannon Fodda said:
Many have heating / hot water that will alternate between gas and electric
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Good point, hadn't thought of that. Makes refillable gas a better option if they charge for EHU, just use a few pence of gas for the heating/water. Then the 240V usage is right down to inverter/solar levels to do off grid. At least that's my long term plan. Also saves wires and plugging in, forgetting you're plugged in etc...

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spitfire said:
strangely was also a Dutchman
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The dutch are world famous for their thrift. I don't know why this is as they happily give billions to the EU each year but will always save a few pence here and there, it's the national hobby. A friend of mine is Dutch and still runs the oldest family car of anyone I know.

Not such a bad idea in principle but when it descends to defrauding Aires it helps no one, as we'll end up subsidizing them or finding them lose facilities or close.
 
lamyj said:
Can understand EHU charge in winter with the heating on but even then £5 still seems steep
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Not defending UK prices but in respect of EHU, £5 a day for the profligate user wouldn't go far. For example, if they were to leave a 2Kw heater on day and night (and that won't keep you that warm in the winter) that's 48Kwh. At an average price of, say 13p/Kw, that's £6.24 a day. Add on everything else that's likely to be used plus the installation, standing charges and maintenance costs for the owner, £5 is looking very like a bargain to me...:unsure:
 
Interestingly my camper's default german spec is a Truma 4, it was an option to upgrade to a 4E. This could well be cost but I wonder if it's more a european thing to not use electric heating so much in their vans?
Perhaps bottled gas over there is cheaper and easier than our Calorgouge system?
 
I sometimes use hook up just so the kettle boils quicker, I really cant get that worked up over a fiver. to all the people think these sites are just a money making machine, try owning or even running one for a few months, you might be surprised.:D

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IMHO all sites should offer non electric pitches, so that we that are self sufficient dont have to subsidise those greedy ignoramuses that feel they have to get their monies worth in running 2KW fan heaters to warm their awnings day & night in winter, many just to keep their dogs warm Oh Please!:mad:
Thats also one reason why so many sites now charge separately for awnings in the first place.
Yes agree also the cost of staying on say a CMC main site is prohibitive, especially peak season & bank Holidays, only ever stayed on 3 for 2 nights each since we got the van, that was to empty & refill tanks, but at £210 plus per week it makes you think twice doesn't it.
Thank goodness we got rid of the caravan.
Les
 
Last week we were wandering up through Shropshire and needing to empty the loo we decided a night on a site was called for - we tend to use pubs/Britstops a few days then a night or two for servicing, showers etc.
Started looking up CL's and CS's and could find nowhere within reasonable distance less than £15 pn, and that was not including hookup! Eventually went onto a very nice CMC full facility site for only a little more!
T'was only later I realised I could have gone to Old Mo's place!
 
I would think economic scale comes into it . If you only have 5 electric posts to check and sign off it’s not going to be as cheap if you have a 100 posts to do per post . All the little things add up.
 
Clarky said:
Even at those very reasonable rates some FLT’s will try it on.
Parked on the same Stellplatz, quite close to us, are two Dutch vans.
Yesterday evening there were a number of vans leaving after the weekend when I saw one of the ‘Cloggies’ unplug his electric lead and roll it up.
I assumed he was also leaving but was surprised when he was still there much later.
Of course, it was almost time for the chap to come round to collect the money.
As it happened the cash was collected this morning and I couldn’t help notice a little later, well after the collector had gone, than his electric cable was magically plugged back in.
As Snowbird says there is 16a hookup here for 2€ per day yet some are too tight to even pay that.
Incidentally, the ‘Cloggie’ has a newish Hymer A class so is not exactly penny less.

Unbelievable behaviour.

Richard
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Update.

It’s time for the man to collect the 8€+2€ if you have electric and guess what, Mr Cloggie has unplugged his cable again.
It’s been plugged in all day.
Any one placing bets on it being plugged back in as soon as the dosh has been collected?

Tight bas@@d.

Richard.
 
Clarky said:
Even at those very reasonable rates some FLT’s will try it on.
Parked on the same Stellplatz, quite close to us, are two Dutch vans.
Yesterday evening there were a number of vans leaving after the weekend when I saw one of the ‘Cloggies’ unplug his electric lead and roll it up.
I assumed he was also leaving but was surprised when he was still there much later.
Of course, it was almost time for the chap to come round to collect the money.
As it happened the cash was collected this morning and I couldn’t help notice a little later, well after the collector had gone, than his electric cable was magically plugged back in.
As Snowbird says there is 16a hookup here for 2€ per day yet some are too tight to even pay that.
Incidentally, the ‘Cloggie’ has a newish Hymer A class so is not exactly penny less.

Unbelievable behaviour.

Richard
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your allowed to grass on cloggies
 
Reminds me of an Aire in France where the Dutch turn up after 7 and depart at 8 before the local gendarmes came to collect ones 7 euros! I stayed at a Cl in Kingston nr Lewes a few weeks ago only water and dump great big field £7.00 per night with the nearest pub 200yards away! Could do with more like that. Paid £15.00 at a farm in Suffolk with levy lovely spot near Flatford Mill.
We used to use the C & MC site at Brighton but it is now too dear. My field at Kingston was much better.
With Solar Panels , two good leisure batteries , gas low and an inverter I do not have the need for overpriced sites.
Currently in Verdun for a couple of days WW1 history trip, 15euros with leccy, swimming pool, bar and restaurant!
How bad is that.
The Aire at Rocroi last night was of course a freeby!!
 
I have just paid £20 with lecky . Why not charge electric by amount used as I only use a small microwave (for me porridge ) .I wouldn't pay more than £2 anyway.
 

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