Is it me???? (1 Viewer)

TazzieLola

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I am aghast at MH deprecation, just put mine in to see what would be offered.

Purchased March 2018, £38K, been offered £28K!!!!! Were we ripped off? Me thinks so..or is this normal in the first year and does the depreciation plateau..someone HELP!!!!!
 

MikeD

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I bet it would go back on their forecourt at somewhere around the price you paid last year. (n)

But like cars some makers have higher depreciation than others.
 

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is this normal in the first year !!

You are talking of it going from new with full warranty to used. The first hit is the big one.

So the dealer has to make it like new and then risk the loss of a new sale because the canny buyer will spot as good as new for thousands less.
 

TheBig1

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plus you paid 20% vat so lose that amount as you drive off the forecourt

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Cheshirecat57

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I am aghast at MH deprecation, just put mine in to see what would be offered.

Purchased March 2018, £38K, been offered £28K!!!!! Were we ripped off? Me thinks so..or is this normal in the first year and does the depreciation plateau..someone HELP!!!!!
Ask yourself this....
A new one is £38000....what price would tempt you or someone else to buy a one year old one?..... £35000 ? NO £32000 MAYBE

Dealer makes £4k on a new one, he has to make £4k on a used one

Robert is your Mum's Brother
 

Cheshirecat57

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Trust me, its the dealers margin that you lose not the VAT
the dealers blame the VAT, but it's not true
The VAT is part of the "value" of a used 'van

I sell trucks which are £100k + vat new and only £90K + vat when a day old, and everyone is vat registered in every purchase
The depreciation is our margin ( on both transactions)
 
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When I wanted to exchange my motorhome, I shopped around at a motorhome show. I had paid £25,000 three years previously. I was offered £12,000 by a couple of dealers, then £15,000 by another I finally accepted £24,500 from another so, don't accept the first offer, there is a big difference of £12,500 to my wallet of real money.
 

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Lot depends on make. People can be put off buying one that’s only a year old they assume there is something wrong with it. Who ever bought our Pilote 716 would have found that out.

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Cyprio42

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Similar thing happened to us when we were thinking of upgrading. We were offered £8k less than 6 months after we purchased it. What got me thou was that we were ready to sign on a new one at £60K, and we we would have if they had offered us a little bit more.
 

kelpie

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Always depreciation when registered . Fact of life unfortunately.
On a lighter note , hopefully, you're heading was "Is it me" , easy answer look in the mirror:D.
SORRY
John
 
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Thanks to everyone who has responded to this.....thinking will dump it and go back to camping...had more fun doing that for years...

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Thanks to everyone who has responded to this.....thinking will dump it and go back to camping...had more fun doing that for years...
We had fun camping and we had fun in a caravan, but we are not going back to either anytime soon.

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TazzieLola

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We brought a Auto trail V Line 600 Sport. We chose the van conversation to make it more usable. As MH owners towns and resorts don't want you anymore and we are no longer welcome. Didn't buy this to leave on a site and catch a bus...something I've not done since passing my test 40 years ago this year!!! Also struggling finding sites open all year and getting a pitch for a weekend when MHCC sites have one night booked (either Friday or Saturday) stops you booking a weekend. As due to our self centred MP's (couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery) We won't be able to go across the channel soon..We don't have the luxury of being able to book well in advance as only able to grad the odd weekend here and there so difficult to plan ahead. Putting down to bad judgement and looking to enjoying camping again. Found that the MH sale person is a friend until you part with the ££££, then get blanked when you go to the dealership for service or warranty work.
Sorry for the negatives but feeling bruised by this experience.
Wishing you all happy Motor-homing hope we get another good summer, look out for the sly dealers and there to good to be true offers.
 
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That's such a shame. We've never even been across the channel ( we don't feel a couple of weeks is long enough to do it for us yet ) and always find places to go to and stay in Britain.
We very rarely book well in advance to go anywhere . Apart from new year , then you have to.
But then we very rarely go on campsites . We prefer CL's or whatever do camping. I can honestly say we've ever gone anywhere and had to catch a bus to get about. We've always managed to park our Van it's 6.4m .

We still manage to get off in Pug , at least twice a month and we use our van ( a PVC ) all year round . Even in the depths of winter .
We'd go more often but Ralph still works full time.
Why not wait a bit , see another summer out. You never know .....
Try a nice long trip up to the Hebridean islands for eg , it's one of our favourite spots to visit for 2/3 weeks.
It may change your mind and help your bank balance.
 

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We brought a Auto trail V Line 600 Sport. We chose the van conversation to make it more usable. As MH owners towns and resorts don't want you anymore and we are no longer welcome. Didn't buy this to leave on a site and catch a bus...something I've not done since passing my test 40 years ago this year!!! Also struggling finding sites open all year and getting a pitch for a weekend when MHCC sites have one night booked (either Friday or Saturday) stops you booking a weekend. As due to our self centred MP's (couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery) We won't be able to go across the channel soon..We don't have the luxury of being able to book well in advance as only able to grad the odd weekend here and there so difficult to plan ahead. Putting down to bad judgement) Sorry to read this-looked your van up and it is beautiful. We rarely stay on sites- park in pubs or wild camp and have always found somewhere to park if visiting a town or attraction for a day, then parked up somewhere thrilling( side street, back of industrial. Area, C and C club cl site) National trust places have good car parks for the day tho you can’t stay overnight. Plenty of places are ok for vans some have special aire-like parking-Canterbury and Hey for instance.
We will still be going to France as often as possible come hell l high water or more Tory lies and distortions Tesco points and Chunnel faresWe did the NC500 and found that easy to get a pitch.Take poor price on van as a sigh to Not Sell xx

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When I wanted to exchange my motorhome, I shopped around at a motorhome show. I had paid £25,000 three years previously. I was offered £12,000 by a couple of dealers, then £15,000 by another I finally accepted £24,500 from another so, don't accept the first offer, there is a big difference of £12,500 to my wallet of real money.
Agree ,,i had £7500 difference in part exchange allowance from 2 different dealers..BUSBY.
 
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We brought a Auto trail V Line 600 Sport. We chose the van conversation to make it more usable. As MH owners towns and resorts don't want you anymore and we are no longer welcome. Didn't buy this to leave on a site and catch a bus...something I've not done since passing my test 40 years ago this year!!! Also struggling finding sites open all year and getting a pitch for a weekend when MHCC sites have one night booked (either Friday or Saturday) stops you booking a weekend. As due to our self centred MP's (couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery) We won't be able to go across the channel soon..We don't have the luxury of being able to book well in advance as only able to grad the odd weekend here and there so difficult to plan ahead. Putting down to bad judgement and looking to enjoying camping again. Found that the MH sale person is a friend until you part with the ££££, then get blanked when you go to the dealership for service or warranty work.
Sorry for the negatives but feeling bruised by this experience.
Wishing you all happy Motor-homing hope we get another good summer, look out for the sly dealers and there to good to be true offers.
your choice, but dont thnink you have really got into the motorhoming thing yet, dont just stick to sites or town centres, have you looked at britstops for example or tryed asking pubs yourself, and france is a different world , you dont need any planning , just go and take no notice of bre.... it wont make an haporth of difference.

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Aug 18, 2011
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We brought a Auto trail V Line 600 Sport. We chose the van conversation to make it more usable. As MH owners towns and resorts don't want you anymore and we are no longer welcome. Didn't buy this to leave on a site and catch a bus...something I've not done since passing my test 40 years ago this year!!! Also struggling finding sites open all year and getting a pitch for a weekend when MHCC sites have one night booked (either Friday or Saturday) stops you booking a weekend. As due to our self centred MP's (couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery) We won't be able to go across the channel soon..We don't have the luxury of being able to book well in advance as only able to grad the odd weekend here and there so difficult to plan ahead. Putting down to bad judgement and looking to enjoying camping again. Found that the MH sale person is a friend until you part with the ££££, then get blanked when you go to the dealership for service or warranty work.
Sorry for the negatives but feeling bruised by this experience.
Wishing you all happy Motor-homing hope we get another good summer, look out for the sly dealers and there to good to be true offers.
Why wont you be able to cross the Channel,,,BUSBY.
 

Louis

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I have made a deal for an Autotrail, using the Maclouis as part exchange and got a great deal. Taken a while to find the right one though
(y)
 

Cheshirecat57

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Agree ,,i had £7500 difference in part exchange allowance from 2 different dealers..BUSBY.
I agree, shopping around is a good idea BUT, and it's a big BUT, I think the OP has fallen out with motorhoming and are looking for a straight sale (ie not a P/X) which is a hugely different thing

The value of the 'van is the value.
In a p/x deal the value is augmented by the amount of margin that the dealer is prepared to relinquish from the new sale dependant of how hungry he is for
a/ A sale
b/ Your p/x to feed his Used stock- some sell more than others

As a general rule, the bigger the discount on the new vehicle with no p/x (Swift/Autotrail spring to mind) the harder the values fall in the first year

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