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I have a Trackstar fitted to our van. It's never been activated - was fitted for free by the dealer.
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Can I just say here, Stick with PROFESSIONAL systems such as the club Trackstar system. It is all very well having cheap systems that are pay as you go and the like, but no-one including the police can do anything about it even if the tracker does locate your camper in a shed somewhere if the system is not a professional system.
Can you explain how the police cant do anything if you give them a tracker location of your vehicle ?
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Because they are not verified systems, and are not or do not have any guarantee to accuracy, nor can the police access the system.
Systems vary greatly - an expensive system may update on location every 20 seconds - a cheap one every 7 minutes or more. Accuracy can be within several feet or less with a quality system, or several hundred feet or more with a cheap one.
If you consider the vehicle may be on the road driving, at 70mph with a 7 minute update, the vehicle would be a little over a mile away from where you think it is.
If you out yourself in a position of 'finding' your vehicle which the tracker says is located in a garage. You can call the Police out, tell them it is there and that your tracker says it is - but they cannot force entry without reliable evidence to prove that it is there. A proven tracking system has this - a cheap one does not!
They will only be able to react if the vehicle leaves that garage......and they don't have the manpower to wait there until it does. They may sympathise with your plight, but cannot gain a warrant or search those premises without a valid reason to do so.
They may be better than none at all - but you need an approved system to ensure the vehicle's location can be proven to allow the Police to take action. An approved system, with an approved tracking centre that will supplying accurate information for prosecution etc is the only way to go!
Cheap is cheap for a reason!
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Because they are not verified systems, and are not or do not have any guarantee to accuracy, nor can the police access the system.
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Just had a further look at this Rainbow. You are correct in that ACPO has issued a set of standards for companies who provide monitoring services, I was wrong on that point. This is to cut down on false alarms etc from their call centres. Companies can then pay ACPO a fee(sounds iffy) for the right to stamp "Police Approved" on the product box. So if I was purchasing a monitored system, products like Trackstar, Phantom or Cobra are the way to go...But.
I would still assert that a member of the public would still get a meaningful response from the police, if they phoned 999 and said my stolen £25k van is parked up in this barn. As an ex-plod, I cannot think of any reason why I would not gain access to the item. Although I may need to be creative. Leaving it would not be an option.
Again its down to each individuals budget. Some of the approved products are grossly overpriced.
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Because they are not verified systems, and are not or do not have any guarantee to accuracy, nor can the police access the system.
Systems vary greatly - an expensive system may update on location every 20 seconds - a cheap one every 7 minutes or more. Accuracy can be within several feet or less with a quality system, or several hundred feet or more with a cheap one.
If you consider the vehicle may be on the road driving, at 70mph with a 7 minute update, the vehicle would be a little over a mile away from where you think it is.
If you out yourself in a position of 'finding' your vehicle which the tracker says is located in a garage. You can call the Police out, tell them it is there and that your tracker says it is - but they cannot force entry without reliable evidence to prove that it is there. A proven tracking system has this - a cheap one does not!
They will only be able to react if the vehicle leaves that garage......and they don't have the manpower to wait there until it does. They may sympathise with your plight, but cannot gain a warrant or search those premises without a valid reason to do so.
They may be better than none at all - but you need an approved system to ensure the vehicle's location can be proven to allow the Police to take action. An approved system, with an approved tracking centre that will supplying accurate information for prosecution etc is the only way to go!
Cheap is cheap for a reason!
.....if I am standing outside a barn with a GPS & SIM card based signal tracker system reporting onto a map on my mobile phone, showing my 25k motorhome is in there (and they are putting doors through for I phone recovery signals) I fully expect them to go and look for it......
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i'd put the door in myslef and deal with any problems later - screw the thieving gits who took it....grrr :Angry:
...and just so you know, some scumbag was nicking my bike...i heard the chain rattling and ran out butt naked with my helmet and smashed the tosser over the head with it and chased him off...i was later arrested for GBH...although later it was dropped.....
Regarding the ebay type trackers, I am a police officer working on a stolen vehicle squad, we would act on information given by he owner of a vehicle with an ebay type tracker on board
If you could show us the software or co ordinates on the map . I would be more than happy to go and get a warrant, and get you motorhome back.
We are directly linked to tracker in g.m.p, but not track star
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that could & should have been a youtube classic.....
In my case the Ebay tracker is a second line of defence my first line of defence is a professionally fitted Thatcham approved alarm/immobiliser. :thumb:
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I put nothing past theives anymore - if they want it, they will take it!
Going back to the late 90's, my recovery trucks were safe locked up in their compound, with drop saftey posts in front of a solid locked gate....wrong!
I have no idea what they used, but I had a couple of lorries lifted over the fence. It had happened in town to a few pick-ups, but never thought anything would lift my lorries! Especially as the road was tight anyway, and out in the sticks.
They took them - insurers walked away as the compound was still secure.The Police gave me the 'proffessional' theft line - but that was no comfort as it took me out of business. And as always, no-one saw a thing! Whatever lifted them over would have been BIG and a VERY tight squeeze down the road - and yet no-one saw anything.
I am not saying that they would do this easily with a motorhome without damaging it - but they could. If they want it, they will take it! Assume nothing.
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Thanks eddie
So just to be fair as you know more about this than I do please recommend
A quality alarm system
A tracking system and if possible some idea of operating costs
And yes I would travel to have something fitted I much prefer to use recommend suppliers over someone local who I have never heard off and who's workmanship is unknown to me
Cheeky bugger ain't I
We have bought so much rubbish over years I am loath to anything nowadays
Without recommendations
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Vehicle crime (all crime actually) has been steadily falling for a number of years.
I could easily hotwire a motorhome in the Ninties, have removed loads of factory fitted immobilisers and helped people remove them when they've failed but can over come the latest generation of say the last six or seven years.
Motor home security is more about personal safety and the safety of possessions and personal effects than the motor home, in the majority of cases.
Eddie
If guys come along with a crane to steal your motorhome they are clearly pro's & I suspect there is not much can be done to stop them other than have reliable insurance.
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