Integrated or semi-integrated? (1 Viewer)

[stevec]

Just trying to balance up the pros and conns of them both. Aside from the cost difference of course. What were people's arguments when they had that choice to make?

 

[Riverbankannie]

Context might help - me at least!

 

[Lenny HB]

A Class every time, easier to drive, flat sides make it easier to get through tight spaces and easier to reverse.
Great view from the cab, more space in the cab area. Less road & wind noise, cab area better insulated so warmer. Better winterization, most have double floors.

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[David and Sally]

Context might help - me at least!

Me too. What are they?

 

[David and Sally]

A Class every time, easier to drive, flat sides make it easier to get through tight spaces and easier to reverse.
Great view from the cab, more space in the cab area. Less road & wind noise, cab area better insulated so warmer. Better winterization, most have double floors.

Much harder to get at the engine so service costs??

 

[Lenny HB]

Context might help - me at least!

Me too. What are they?

Integrated is an A Class.
Semi-integrated is a low profile or alcove coach built.

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[Lenny HB]

Much harder to get at the engine so service costs??

No difference on general service costs but cam belt change more expensive.

 

[DuxDeluxe]

A Class every time, easier to drive, flat sides make it easier to get through tight spaces and easier to reverse.
Great view from the cab, more space in the cab area. Less road & wind noise, cab area better insulated so warmer. Better winterization, most have double floors.

Spot on

 

[DuxDeluxe]

No difference on general service costs but cam belt change more expensive.

Not if you have a Merc V6………

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[DuxDeluxe]

most have double floors.

….unlike the new Autotrail A Class….. strange choice of design

 

[Minxy]

Pretty much this:

A Class every time, easier to drive, flat sides make it easier to get through tight spaces and easier to reverse.
Great view from the cab, more space in the cab area. Less road & wind noise, cab area better insulated so warmer. Better winterization, most have double floors.

We have had coachbuilt semi-integrateds (low profile and overcab), PVCs, a classic PVC and a home converted ambulance, and now have our first A-class and it is a very different beastie to the others. Even though ours is the narrowest one you can buy it still feels very, very spacious and the full width cab is great (I call it my 'conservatory' as that's where I sit when it's too cool to be outside). The insulation is far better with less draughts at the front - no matter what we did there was always cool air getting in somewhere in the cab which being someone who really feels the cold wasn't ideal at the best of times.

The only thing we really miss about a standard cab is having 2 doors as ours just has a UK nearside one in a RHD MH but as we have a UK offside hab door hubby (main driver) uses that most of the time however he does really miss having a fully opening side window as it's a slider so only half opens and of course it's not electric unlike mine so he's a bit jealous.

 

[Lucky]

I consider we are safer surrounded by the structural steel of a semi integrated cab.

Mrs Lucky feels less exposed too - she thinks the wider cab of an integrated takes you closer to colliding with oncoming traffic. I know it can be argued otherwise but it's what she feels.

And the significant cost saving is worth repeating.

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[Itsmcb]

I assumed this thread this was about dishwashers

 

[M-J]

I assumed this thread this was about dishwashers

Same…. integrated every time.

 

[Lenny HB]

The only thing we really miss about a standard cab is having 2 doors as ours just has a UK nearside one in a RHD MH but as we have a UK offside hab door hubby (main driver) uses that most of the time however he does really miss having a fully opening side window as it's a slider so only half opens and of course it's not electric unlike mine so he's a bit jealous.

Silly girl for buying a RHD, I really don't see the point in buying a RHD A Class.
Both our A Class vans have been LHD wouldn't want a RHD in any type of van now.

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[Jim]

Silly girl for buying a RHD, I really don't see the point in buying a RHD A Class.

Does it matter really. I've had left hookers for the last 30 years. Yet I was 50 miles down the road in a van I just bought when I realised it was RHD.

 

[Lenny HB]

Does it matter really.

Of course it does I've got to get a dig in at Minxy Girl somehow.

 

[Minxy]

Silly girl for buying a RHD, I really don't see the point in buying a RHD A Class.
Both our A Class vans have been LHD wouldn't want a RHD in any type of van now.

Hubby is happy driving a RHD abroad but would be less happy driving a LHD in the UK. Having a LHD passenger door and a RHD hab door actually suits us well as we are able to easily get in/out of both with our dogs, not so easy with a driver's door that obviously has a steering wheel in the way and no passenger one - the only thing that could top it would be to have passenger and driver doors.

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[Minxy]

Of course it does I've got to get a dig in at Minxy Girl somehow.

You're only being 'brave' seeing as I'm up hunting haggis at the moment ... just wait until I get down nearer to you ... be afraid, very afraid!

 

[gerrym11]

Done lots of research but it does depend on your requirements. We wanted a motorhome that had plenty of light in the lounge. Most (not all) A class mohos have a bed above the loungs, therefore cutting light out. We must have a motorhome without a drop down bed at the front which means most A classes are not sutable for us.

 

[Lenny HB]

You're only being 'brave' seeing as I'm up hunting haggis at the moment ... just wait until I get down nearer to you ... be afraid, very afraid!

I can't wait.

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[dunnah01]

Semi integrated - how can you reach the ticket machine in a fully integrated

 

[Lenny HB]

Done lots of research but it does depend on your requirements. We wanted a motorhome that had plenty of light in the lounge. Most (not all) A class mohos have a bed above the loungs, therefore cutting light out. We must have a motorhome without a drop down bed at the front which means most A classes are not sutable for us.

How does the bed affect the light it stores high up clear of the screen. Much more light in an A Class cab with the big screen and side windows.

 

[Lenny HB]

Semi integrated - how can you reach the ticket machine in a fully integrated

Seat height is the same and easier to get closer with flat sided body and no big sticky out door mirrors.
I think you have got it the wrong way round.

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[gerrym11]

How does the bed affect the light it stores high up clear of the screen. Much more light in an A Class cab with the big screen and side windows.

Because there could be a skylight where the bed is.

 

[Lenny HB]

Because there could be a skylight where the bed is.

Not needed with the big screen also last thing I would want with all the reports of noisy, drafty & leaky ones you see.

 

[gerrym11]

Not needed with the big screen also last thing I would want with all the reports of noisy, drafty & leaky ones you see.

With all due respect Lenny, just an opinion, like mine.

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[Simon Select]

A Class for the win!!

 

[Simon Select]

I am also hoping one day Lenny HB will sell me his van!!

 

[EuroTrotters]

Much harder to get at the engine so service costs??

engine access is a pain

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