spitfire
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Brits in the EU to get common residence card
European Commission wants a single physical document for all Britons living in the EU by the end of the transition period.
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Pete5996
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Plenty of chat on the FB groups re this. It would make a lot of sense for a common card across the EU which will be recognisable when ETIAS is introduced to distinguish residents from visitors. I wonder if this will delay the proposed online system from July's start in France? If a format can be agreed soon it shouldn't be a problem.
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So an "ID Card" ?
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Pete5996
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Not too much different from any TCN's residency card, although it would seem the card for UK nationals will have some mention of Article 50 on it.
I've carried an ID card for most of my life anyway so one more won't make any difference
I've carried an ID card for most of my life anyway so one more won't make any difference
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Maybe its just me thats confused, but surely if someone is living bona fide in an EU country they would already be in possession of a residents card for whichever country they were living in.
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Brits in the EU to get common residence card
European Commission wants a single physical document for all Britons living in the EU by the end of the transition period.
Thanks for that Spitfire.
It was just in time, as I was just about to book a hotel in Krakow for next Tuesday for a meeting hosted by the Polish Ministry for Foreigners to explain the future for UK Citizens in Poland. The prime reason for my attending was to find out why the procedure and forms for applying for Residency were on hold.
This probably explains why the procedure was on hold if the Polish Government knew this EU-wide card is in the pipeline.
There is another meeting in Krakow scheduled for 21st March.
Your post has probably saved us a wasted trip and £2-300, so much appreciated.
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Not just you, the confusion is widespread. However, the cards will be in a new format which means all existing cards/cartes de sejour, wherever you are and whenever they were obtained will need to be replaced. Before we left, residency cards were not required in France for EU nationals - now we're out, we do....
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spitfire
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We have a 10 year EU Carte de Sejour so as said in the past should be a straight exchange
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Not correct.
Before 31st January this year I was told I could not apply for one in Poland as I was an EU Citizen. After 31st Jan I was told the procedure for Brits applying for a card had not been agreed - see my post number 7 above.
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Waited 4 months for an interview last April in Cahors, submitted all docs inc translations which cost €144, fingerprints etc. They said thanks but we'll not process it until we get directions. Seems now that was all to no avail and I'll have to apply again in July....
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spitfire
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Don’t think you will have to submit all again as they have your dossier unless they returned it . Might ask for docs between acceptance and when issuedWaited 4 months for an interview last April in Cahors, submitted all docs inc translations which cost €144, fingerprints etc. They said thanks but we'll not process it until we get directions. Seems now that was all to no avail and I'll have to apply again in July....
Pete5996
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I'd like to think so but I contacted them a couple of weeks ago to ask if my dossier would be dealt with and they were pretty obtuse in their answer - just referring me to the govt website. As the govt has announced they will be processing all those who made the online declaration in Nov last year, it looks as if I might have fallen between two stools. I'd be pleasantly surprised if something arrives in the post later this year, though!
The good news is that the online process last Nov was very much simpler, so reapplying shouldn't be too onerous.
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Snowbird
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Having read some replies am more confused than ever now. Anyone living in France MUST file a tax return documenting worldwide bank accounts and income whether you are eligible to pay tax or not. If you submit a tax return you must have a residents card, otherwise you wouldn't be required to file a tax return.
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Nope Did not exist in France . Was the only country in Europe who didn't issue any resident card to EU citizens .If you went to ask for one they said not necessary you are European . After the initial vote for Brexit they did start to issue I think hopefully to minimise the future rush so then simple to exchange for a non EU one but then thought no just make an on line system hence the wait for July for an up and running system . When you submit your tax return they give you a fiscal number that’s all . Trust me I have lived there for 16 years !
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Poland would not issue a Resident Card for me when UK Citizens were still EU Citizens(see my post No. 12 above) for the same reason you gave.
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Here we had a n ID card complete with fingerprints.Then it was pointed out it infringed rights as they had no ID card in the some states so therefore shouldn't be compelled to have one. So we all got changed to an A4 sheet of paper that states "this in now way confirms the identity of the holder" or something similar as there is no photo.
Additionally under EU rules unless a country specifically states that you are required to register then there is no requirement. Spain & Greece require you to register. The UK didn't & I bekive France didn't either.
No- Here in Spain you can be a "resident " without being "tax resident" & " Tax resident" without being a "resident".
To be a resident requires you only to be in spain ( or any EU country) for 90 consecutive days.
Leave after 89 days & the clock resets.
To be a tax resident requires you to be in spain for over 183 days Cumulatively.
I believe France had no requirement for registering.
Most EU countries didn't ask you to register as even if you failed the requirements you could not & cannot be thrown out. What it does mean , & what the Uk should have realised, is that if you are required to register , apply but cannot fulfill the requirements then although you cannot be asked to leave the state then has no legal obligation to assist you in any way whatsoever.
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spitfire
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I just object to the capital ‘MUST ‘ when we know what the rules are in our counties .
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