HOW MUCH********* 1st Service Fiat (1 Viewer)

Mar 21, 2010
2,486
2,993
Funster No
10,727
HOW MUCH ******* 1st service on my Carthago Malibou . ( 2 years or 30k miles)

Had a quote from Vospers main dealer for the 1st service on Fiat Ducato mileage 15k.

£675 !!!

Colyboy
 
Feb 5, 2020
2,392
89,745
Crosby
Funster No
68,535
MH
Smileo 202
Exp
Was a Newbie but getting the hang of it now.
1st service was missed due to me misreading manual. (By 30 months)
Durley Garage did a full service (fluids filters Inc brake fluid) £442.68 Inc vat.
 
Feb 14, 2021
3,765
8,127
Milton Keynes, UK
Funster No
79,219
MH
Burstner Lyseo 727G
Exp
19 month year 18000 miles UK, Ireland, France, Spain, Germany, Italy. Campsites and off Grid.
Similar quote for me from Fiat in Northampton.

Even following the Fiat schedule it is stupidly expensive. In addition I would question the need for Brake Fluid and Fuel Filter at this stage.

I got mine done at my local independent garage this services my cars. £200.
 
Feb 14, 2021
3,765
8,127
Milton Keynes, UK
Funster No
79,219
MH
Burstner Lyseo 727G
Exp
19 month year 18000 miles UK, Ireland, France, Spain, Germany, Italy. Campsites and off Grid.
1st service was missed due to me misreading manual. (By 30 months)
Durley Garage did a full service (fluids filters Inc brake fluid) £442.68 Inc vat.

What?? So you didn't have a service for 4 years? (24 months +30 months??)

Or you mean you missed it by 6 months? (30 -24)

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
Feb 14, 2021
3,765
8,127
Milton Keynes, UK
Funster No
79,219
MH
Burstner Lyseo 727G
Exp
19 month year 18000 miles UK, Ireland, France, Spain, Germany, Italy. Campsites and off Grid.
By the way - is 2nd service another 2 years/30000 miles?
 
Sep 17, 2017
5,656
10,568
Birmingham, UK
Funster No
50,575
MH
A-Class
Exp
2017
I had a full service done a couple of months ago. The local Fiat Pro garage wanted close to £1k for my A-class. A motorhome dealer nearby was £450 with original parts and stamped the book.

The only value a Fiat Pro garage might add is they could put a newer flash of the ECU firmware on there. But I'm not sure if they do that unless there's a specific issue.
 
May 30, 2019
722
1,042
Aberdeen, UK
Funster No
61,293
MH
Adria Twin Supreme
Exp
Since 2018
Emailed service m at my Adria dealer last year, quote of £220 so although not Fiat professional got it done at the same time as hab check. They tried to charge me £420 as they say service manager no longer with them and he made a mistake and quoted me for oil and filter service. When I produce email confirmation of what I asked for and that Fiat don’t require an O&F service we settled on £270.
 

Lenny HB

LIFE MEMBER
Oct 18, 2007
54,150
152,984
On the coast in West Sussex
Funster No
658
MH
Hymer B678 DL
Exp
Since 2008 & many years tugging
HOW MUCH ******* 1st service on my Carthago Malibou . ( 2 years or 30k miles)

Had a quote from Vospers main dealer for the 1st service on Fiat Ducato mileage 15k.

£675 !!!

Colyboy
I think Adams Morey are now over £800 since their labour rates went up to £115 +vat per hour.
The only value a Fiat Pro garage might add is they could put a newer flash of the ECU firmware on there. But I'm not sure if they do that unless there's a specific issue.
They are only required to do it if there is a problem but some dealers always do it Adams Morey do.
Probably worth it if you have a Comfomatic or auto box, they charge around £200 if you have the updates done seperately.
 
Sep 17, 2017
5,656
10,568
Birmingham, UK
Funster No
50,575
MH
A-Class
Exp
2017
They are only required to do it if there is a problem but some dealers always do it Adams Morey do.
Probably worth it if you have a Comfomatic or auto box, they charge around £200 if you have the updates done seperately.
I would have thought that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" applied, no? Flashing takes time and isn't risk free.
 

125BEER

LIFE MEMBER
Feb 5, 2018
1,158
3,054
PLYMOUTH
Funster No
52,279
MH
BENIMAR MILEO 282
Exp
Since 09 2018
Just had Service "full"+MOT @ RPB VEHICLE SOLUTIONS PLYMOUTH £249.
Asked if any advisories...no vehicle like new...
3rd year of using them 👍

Cheers🍻
 
Feb 5, 2020
2,392
89,745
Crosby
Funster No
68,535
MH
Smileo 202
Exp
Was a Newbie but getting the hang of it now.
What?? So you didn't have a service for 4 years? (24 months +30 months??)

Or you mean you missed it by 6 months? (30 -24)
According to hand book fist service is 10k miles and the bit I missed is or 12 months which ever sooner 🤔
Book states t1st service to Inc Brake Fluid change.
Van had been booked in at a Fiat Pro in Nov for mot and service. Left it with them all day when came back @ 4 o'clock "Oh not started it yet"
Told them just mot it and I'll make other arrangements.
 
Jan 6, 2017
622
2,652
East Devon
Funster No
46,775
MH
Murvi Morocco XL
Exp
since 2014
HOW MUCH ******* 1st service on my Carthago Malibou . ( 2 years or 30k miles)

Had a quote from Vospers main dealer for the 1st service on Fiat Ducato mileage 15k.

£675 !!!

Colyboy
Try Chelston Motorhomes. Just had mine done there for £475. Fiat Professional workshop and very happy with the service there.

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
Oct 12, 2009
10,856
24,027
SW London, Poland and all Europe
Funster No
8,876
MH
A Class N+B Arto 69GL
Exp
Since 2009
For the motor and chassis side of service for a MH I would always go to a reputable commercial garage that service vans. Usually cheaper and they have loads of experience and will do repairs when main agents may try to fit new parts. They also have sources for genuine OEM parts which are cheaper.

I also took a similar route for my BMWs for 20 years - lock-up garage, trained by BMW, authorised to stamp BMW service booklet and got genuine BMW parts 20% discount.

These places are there to be found, but you won't get men in white coats, with no oil under their finger-tips, lounges and coffee machines. You get what you pay for - the MH properly serviced.
 
Feb 14, 2021
3,765
8,127
Milton Keynes, UK
Funster No
79,219
MH
Burstner Lyseo 727G
Exp
19 month year 18000 miles UK, Ireland, France, Spain, Germany, Italy. Campsites and off Grid.
According to hand book fist service is 10k miles and the bit I missed is or 12 months which ever sooner 🤔
Book states t1st service to Inc Brake Fluid change.
Van had been booked in at a Fiat Pro in Nov for mot and service. Left it with them all day when came back @ 4 o'clock "Oh not started it yet"
Told them just mot it and I'll make other arrangements.

I'm a little confused by this. My service booklet (Fiat 2.3 diesel 2021) states service every 24 months/30,000 miles whichever is soonest. So 1st service 2 years/30,000 miles (unless heavy use in extreme conditions, town driving etc i.e. delivery van)
 
Jun 11, 2021
150
288
Pinner, UK
Funster No
81,832
MH
Globecar 540
Exp
Since 2019
Yes. I was similarly confused for identical model and year. Done 11,000 miles now and van will be 2 years in July and has not therefore had 1st oil change service. Decided to play safe and book in with Fiat for full service (£575). Once past 3 year warranty period will revert to local independent garage for all servicing

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
Jul 28, 2008
822
753
Wiltshire, UK
Funster No
3,483
MH
Ducato Sportivo
Exp
Since 2005! 2000+ nights so far...
Thanks for all your comments. Just had a quote from my local garage £256.

Colyboy
Not being funny, but you really need to consider the difference.

The parts list (which you can't get online cheaper) was more than that. Sure, cheaper filters, missing fuel filter swap, cheaper oil will all keep the price down.

Not least, your local garage is very unlikely to update the software on the van. (Software/systems are, I believe, only available to Fiat Pro specialists). Ours made a huge difference (I was aware of a drivability "issue" that went after the service). Many Euro6 (non ad blue) have been serviced in local garages and not had software updates leading to massive failures later on - and updating then is too late as the fueling maps caused damages in DPF, injectors etc etc).

(Not limited to Fiat, many Ford Ecoboost engines blow due to wet cambelt deteriorating and bits blocking the oil pickup causing oil starvation. Funny how Ford only use a specific blend for the ecoboost and that protects the belts, but the cheaper garages will sling in any "match" rather than specific). etc

Ours was in the workshop >3hrs (tracker) and all work was better than expected.

The 4/5 year service should be >£1k as you will need a cambelt.

Surely spending this much on a van you budget for maintenance?

Personally, knowing what I do, if I saw a van with non Fiat Pro service for sale, I'd walk away as you have no idea on the long term implications of missing updates on time (as many owners of the earlier vans now know)

Below is FYI. Parts are, IMO, v fairly priced and not huge mark ups based on what I could get online. This was a Fiat Pro specialist who only does motorhomes/vans (Chestleton motorhomes), and they did update the ECUs (I dumped them pre/post due to a strong distrust of garages lol). It will be going back for a "mini service" at 3yr (as have 3y warrantee, so want it checked/MOTd by someone who knows the vans inside out) - and will have fuel filter changed again (keep the diesel happy!)

edit: The noise investigation happened after ECU updates/service and went away lol - one of my drivability issue was lack of low down torque that the new ECU software fixed, so may've been related etc.
service.png
 
Jul 28, 2008
822
753
Wiltshire, UK
Funster No
3,483
MH
Ducato Sportivo
Exp
Since 2005! 2000+ nights so far...
The only value a Fiat Pro garage might add is they could put a newer flash of the ECU firmware on there. But I'm not sure if they do that unless there's a specific issue.
May depend on garage, I asked/nagged and they assured me part of the service was linking to Fiat computer that does all the other bits like updating oil usage, service history in the ECU and updates. I checked, they did. Can't say for all, but always ask - it does fix issues that are discovered! (Our MY20 had an update in early 22)
 
Apr 17, 2016
6,072
35,987
South Coast
Funster No
42,523
MH
White One..
Exp
3 years….
I’m not keen on these long service intervals, with all my new or old vehicles I have them serviced once a year regardless of mileage.

My van is just over 2 years old with 14k on the clock and come September it will have its 3rd service done😁
Definitely don’t like these ones where the first service is 30k!!
 

KD

Feb 8, 2022
133
117
Funster No
86,796
MH
Swift Escape
I thought there was a cheaper - but still official - "low mileage service" (still Fiat Pro)?
 
Jul 31, 2019
889
8,368
Devon
Funster No
62,885
MH
Swift Bessecar 584
Exp
Since April 2019
HOW MUCH ******* 1st service on my Carthago Malibou . ( 2 years or 30k miles)

Had a quote from Vospers main dealer for the 1st service on Fiat Ducato mileage 15k.

£675 !!!

Colyboy
HOW MUCH ******* 1st service on my Carthago Malibou . ( 2 years or 30k miles)

Had a quote from Vospers main dealer for the 1st service on Fiat Ducato mileage 15k.

£675 !!!

Colyboy
Colyboy, try Rex Saunders at Milton Damerel near Holsworthy, a Fiat Service centre, just had my 2nd service, £453 Inc vat, and MOT for £54. Great farm cafe just down the road. Tel:01409 261212

Hopefully not too far away. Cheers Smudger55

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
Jul 10, 2017
1,080
2,934
Ireland
Funster No
49,405
MH
Coach built
Exp
Newbie
Another vote for Durley Garage , excellent .
We too have our van serviced every year regardless of mileage .
 
Aug 18, 2014
23,968
135,947
Lorca,Murcia,Spain
Funster No
32,898
MH
Transit PVC
Exp
16 years since restarting
Funny how Ford only use a specific blend for the ecoboost and that protects the belts,
there are just as many with full Ford service histories with junked engines from the wet belt. & Ford replacing foc. It isn't the oil but the belt system that is a nonsense.
 
Oct 12, 2009
10,856
24,027
SW London, Poland and all Europe
Funster No
8,876
MH
A Class N+B Arto 69GL
Exp
Since 2009
Not being funny, but you really need to consider the difference.

The parts list (which you can't get online cheaper) was more than that. Sure, cheaper filters, missing fuel filter swap, cheaper oil will all keep the price down.

Not least, your local garage is very unlikely to update the software on the van. (Software/systems are, I believe, only available to Fiat Pro specialists). Ours made a huge difference (I was aware of a drivability "issue" that went after the service). Many Euro6 (non ad blue) have been serviced in local garages and not had software updates leading to massive failures later on - and updating then is too late as the fueling maps caused damages in DPF, injectors etc etc).

(Not limited to Fiat, many Ford Ecoboost engines blow due to wet cambelt deteriorating and bits blocking the oil pickup causing oil starvation. Funny how Ford only use a specific blend for the ecoboost and that protects the belts, but the cheaper garages will sling in any "match" rather than specific). etc

Ours was in the workshop >3hrs (tracker) and all work was better than expected.

The 4/5 year service should be >£1k as you will need a cambelt.

Surely spending this much on a van you budget for maintenance?

Personally, knowing what I do, if I saw a van with non Fiat Pro service for sale, I'd walk away as you have no idea on the long term implications of missing updates on time (as many owners of the earlier vans now know)

Below is FYI. Parts are, IMO, v fairly priced and not huge mark ups based on what I could get online. This was a Fiat Pro specialist who only does motorhomes/vans (Chestleton motorhomes), and they did update the ECUs (I dumped them pre/post due to a strong distrust of garages lol). It will be going back for a "mini service" at 3yr (as have 3y warrantee, so want it checked/MOTd by someone who knows the vans inside out) - and will have fuel filter changed again (keep the diesel happy!)

edit: The noise investigation happened after ECU updates/service and went away lol - one of my drivability issue was lack of low down torque that the new ECU software fixed, so may've been related etc.
View attachment 734931

A lot of stuff there would not relate to a Fiat 2.8Jtd

A basic diesel engine needs fuel, injector pump and compression, then it will start and run.

The rest is tarting it up. I know from my Mercedes OM 636 in my boat which was basically designed by a German PoW in UK in WWII, engine built in 1978 and is still running in the boat in 2023.

KISS
 
Jan 27, 2018
2,711
2,179
Northampton
Funster No
52,151
MH
Rapido & Bongone
I would have thought that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" applied, no? Flashing takes time and isn't risk free.
This has already been covered but Fiat has made several errors on the way to Euro 6 perfection. Needing ecu updates since 2017.
This has resulted in several people having £K6-10 bills, do a search here or Fiat forum for P0401 problems. The service news sheet of 23-11-19 euphemisticaly puts Technical Cause down as "software calibration". This was resolved if Fiat Professional had access but many do not go down that route because of cost. The NORMAL Fiat reccomendation for sevicing is a full service every 30000 or 2 years. I also has a low milage oil change reccomendation at 1 year. The Cam belt change falls outside the normal routine being at 5 years. I was Lucky in that i have a 2017 registration 2918 that went to original suppliers in 2018 twice in 2019 for a warrenty issue and the low milage service (£150) dicided that would get the fiat pro stamp if problems came up in warenty (i didnt know about issues untill much later). I then took the view that a respected Fiat Pro would do my cambelt, Adams Morey Portsmouth. Then they checked my software version as an acceptable calibration no update required. All other servicing i do myself.
 

Join us or log in to post a reply.

To join in you must be a member of MotorhomeFun

Join MotorhomeFun

Join us, it quick and easy!

Log in

Already a member? Log in here.

Latest journal entries

Funsters who are viewing this thread

Back
Top