HOW MUCH********* 1st Service Fiat
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1st service was missed due to me misreading manual. (By 30 months)
Durley Garage did a full service (fluids filters Inc brake fluid) £442.68 Inc vat.
Durley Garage did a full service (fluids filters Inc brake fluid) £442.68 Inc vat.
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Similar quote for me from Fiat in Northampton.
Even following the Fiat schedule it is stupidly expensive. In addition I would question the need for Brake Fluid and Fuel Filter at this stage.
I got mine done at my local independent garage this services my cars. £200.
Even following the Fiat schedule it is stupidly expensive. In addition I would question the need for Brake Fluid and Fuel Filter at this stage.
I got mine done at my local independent garage this services my cars. £200.
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What?? So you didn't have a service for 4 years? (24 months +30 months??)
Or you mean you missed it by 6 months? (30 -24)
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- Feb 14, 2021
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By the way - is 2nd service another 2 years/30000 miles?
Is the first service not just oil and filters?
I had a full service done a couple of months ago. The local Fiat Pro garage wanted close to £1k for my A-class. A motorhome dealer nearby was £450 with original parts and stamped the book.
The only value a Fiat Pro garage might add is they could put a newer flash of the ECU firmware on there. But I'm not sure if they do that unless there's a specific issue.
The only value a Fiat Pro garage might add is they could put a newer flash of the ECU firmware on there. But I'm not sure if they do that unless there's a specific issue.
Emailed service m at my Adria dealer last year, quote of £220 so although not Fiat professional got it done at the same time as hab check. They tried to charge me £420 as they say service manager no longer with them and he made a mistake and quoted me for oil and filter service. When I produce email confirmation of what I asked for and that Fiat don’t require an O&F service we settled on £270.
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Main dealers seem to charge double what most independent garages are asking .
In addition the work is often of a poor standard compared to a local garage who rely on a good reputation.
In addition the work is often of a poor standard compared to a local garage who rely on a good reputation.
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I think Adams Morey are now over £800 since their labour rates went up to £115 +vat per hour.
They are only required to do it if there is a problem but some dealers always do it Adams Morey do.
Probably worth it if you have a Comfomatic or auto box, they charge around £200 if you have the updates done seperately.
I would have thought that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" applied, no? Flashing takes time and isn't risk free.
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According to hand book fist service is 10k miles and the bit I missed is or 12 months which ever sooner
Book states t1st service to Inc Brake Fluid change.
Van had been booked in at a Fiat Pro in Nov for mot and service. Left it with them all day when came back @ 4 o'clock "Oh not started it yet"
Told them just mot it and I'll make other arrangements.
Try Chelston Motorhomes. Just had mine done there for £475. Fiat Professional workshop and very happy with the service there.
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For the motor and chassis side of service for a MH I would always go to a reputable commercial garage that service vans. Usually cheaper and they have loads of experience and will do repairs when main agents may try to fit new parts. They also have sources for genuine OEM parts which are cheaper.
I also took a similar route for my BMWs for 20 years - lock-up garage, trained by BMW, authorised to stamp BMW service booklet and got genuine BMW parts 20% discount.
These places are there to be found, but you won't get men in white coats, with no oil under their finger-tips, lounges and coffee machines. You get what you pay for - the MH properly serviced.
I also took a similar route for my BMWs for 20 years - lock-up garage, trained by BMW, authorised to stamp BMW service booklet and got genuine BMW parts 20% discount.
These places are there to be found, but you won't get men in white coats, with no oil under their finger-tips, lounges and coffee machines. You get what you pay for - the MH properly serviced.
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According to Fiat schedule it includes brake fluid and fuel filter. Every 2 years/30,000 miles which ever is sooner.
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I’ve bought vans for less than that !
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According to hand book fist service is 10k miles and the bit I missed is or 12 months which ever sooner
Book states t1st service to Inc Brake Fluid change.
Van had been booked in at a Fiat Pro in Nov for mot and service. Left it with them all day when came back @ 4 o'clock "Oh not started it yet"
Told them just mot it and I'll make other arrangements.
I'm a little confused by this. My service booklet (Fiat 2.3 diesel 2021) states service every 24 months/30,000 miles whichever is soonest. So 1st service 2 years/30,000 miles (unless heavy use in extreme conditions, town driving etc i.e. delivery van)
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Yes. I was similarly confused for identical model and year. Done 11,000 miles now and van will be 2 years in July and has not therefore had 1st oil change service. Decided to play safe and book in with Fiat for full service (£575). Once past 3 year warranty period will revert to local independent garage for all servicing
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Not being funny, but you really need to consider the difference.
The parts list (which you can't get online cheaper) was more than that. Sure, cheaper filters, missing fuel filter swap, cheaper oil will all keep the price down.
Not least, your local garage is very unlikely to update the software on the van. (Software/systems are, I believe, only available to Fiat Pro specialists). Ours made a huge difference (I was aware of a drivability "issue" that went after the service). Many Euro6 (non ad blue) have been serviced in local garages and not had software updates leading to massive failures later on - and updating then is too late as the fueling maps caused damages in DPF, injectors etc etc).
(Not limited to Fiat, many Ford Ecoboost engines blow due to wet cambelt deteriorating and bits blocking the oil pickup causing oil starvation. Funny how Ford only use a specific blend for the ecoboost and that protects the belts, but the cheaper garages will sling in any "match" rather than specific). etc
Ours was in the workshop >3hrs (tracker) and all work was better than expected.
The 4/5 year service should be >£1k as you will need a cambelt.
Surely spending this much on a van you budget for maintenance?
Personally, knowing what I do, if I saw a van with non Fiat Pro service for sale, I'd walk away as you have no idea on the long term implications of missing updates on time (as many owners of the earlier vans now know)
Below is FYI. Parts are, IMO, v fairly priced and not huge mark ups based on what I could get online. This was a Fiat Pro specialist who only does motorhomes/vans (Chestleton motorhomes), and they did update the ECUs (I dumped them pre/post due to a strong distrust of garages lol). It will be going back for a "mini service" at 3yr (as have 3y warrantee, so want it checked/MOTd by someone who knows the vans inside out) - and will have fuel filter changed again (keep the diesel happy!)
edit: The noise investigation happened after ECU updates/service and went away lol - one of my drivability issue was lack of low down torque that the new ECU software fixed, so may've been related etc.
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May depend on garage, I asked/nagged and they assured me part of the service was linking to Fiat computer that does all the other bits like updating oil usage, service history in the ECU and updates. I checked, they did. Can't say for all, but always ask - it does fix issues that are discovered! (Our MY20 had an update in early 22)
I’m not keen on these long service intervals, with all my new or old vehicles I have them serviced once a year regardless of mileage.
My van is just over 2 years old with 14k on the clock and come September it will have its 3rd service done
Definitely don’t like these ones where the first service is 30k!!
My van is just over 2 years old with 14k on the clock and come September it will have its 3rd service done
Definitely don’t like these ones where the first service is 30k!!
I thought there was a cheaper - but still official - "low mileage service" (still Fiat Pro)?
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Colyboy, try Rex Saunders at Milton Damerel near Holsworthy, a Fiat Service centre, just had my 2nd service, £453 Inc vat, and MOT for £54. Great farm cafe just down the road. Tel:01409 261212
Hopefully not too far away. Cheers Smudger55
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there are just as many with full Ford service histories with junked engines from the wet belt. & Ford replacing foc. It isn't the oil but the belt system that is a nonsense.
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A lot of stuff there would not relate to a Fiat 2.8Jtd
A basic diesel engine needs fuel, injector pump and compression, then it will start and run.
The rest is tarting it up. I know from my Mercedes OM 636 in my boat which was basically designed by a German PoW in UK in WWII, engine built in 1978 and is still running in the boat in 2023.
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This has already been covered but Fiat has made several errors on the way to Euro 6 perfection. Needing ecu updates since 2017.
This has resulted in several people having £K6-10 bills, do a search here or Fiat forum for P0401 problems. The service news sheet of 23-11-19 euphemisticaly puts Technical Cause down as "software calibration". This was resolved if Fiat Professional had access but many do not go down that route because of cost. The NORMAL Fiat reccomendation for sevicing is a full service every 30000 or 2 years. I also has a low milage oil change reccomendation at 1 year. The Cam belt change falls outside the normal routine being at 5 years. I was Lucky in that i have a 2017 registration 2918 that went to original suppliers in 2018 twice in 2019 for a warrenty issue and the low milage service (£150) dicided that would get the fiat pro stamp if problems came up in warenty (i didnt know about issues untill much later). I then took the view that a respected Fiat Pro would do my cambelt, Adams Morey Portsmouth. Then they checked my software version as an acceptable calibration no update required. All other servicing i do myself.
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