Here a question for u

[woody65]

Before I bought a Motorhome I didn’t know you needed relatively newish vans, as was rather disappointed to be told I wouldn’t be able to have a growler alarm fitted to mine as told by the gentleman on the phone from van blitz who ask me to hold the line and on return said was unable to do it to a MH that old also at the same time was going to have solar system fitted to roof again told would need to have a look I can assure you my roof is sound and hasn’t collapsed yet lol other wise I wouldn’t of bought it maybe nearly 40 years old my M.H but not able to have a singing and dancing alarm that Iv read so many good testimonies about it is rather annoying really that an old M.H can’t have the same security from this company.

 

[monzer]

Sorry, what's the question?

 

[RowleyBirkinQC]

Sorry, what's the question?

Probably one for eddievanbitz

 

[dunnah01]

Probably pre OBD and CAN if older then about 2000

 

[Figaro]

Told his motorhome is too old for a growler - I'm sure there'll be a good reason, just a pity it wasn't communicated to him at the time, or maybe it was and not understood ?

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[Kannon Fodda]

Electronics are weird. Some things will be too old to be able to integrate. A modern alarm system is being linked with the ECU and other components on a vehicle and if those predate compatibility a world of issues

Upgrade of habitation systems to add solar may be possible, separate from any alarm. But, if the van is not a type the installer knows, they need hands on to take a look, to see what actually is needed and how it could work.

 

[GeoffnDee]

I expect that the older electronics (if fitted at all) are part of the reason that a modern security system cannot be fitted and there would not be any point fitting it if it is not going to do its job.
If you say in what part of the country you are based someone may be able to suggest who may be able to fit a solar panel for you.

 

[woody65]

Electronics are weird. Some things will be too old to be able to integrate. A modern alarm system is being linked with the ECU and other components on a vehicle and if those predate compatibility a world of issues

Upgrade of habitation systems to add solar may be possible, separate from any alarm. But, if the van is not a type the installer knows, they need hands on to take a look, to see what actually is needed and how it could work.

My Motorhome has had all new 240 v wiring done to van not long ago as have all receipts from old owner

 

[woody65]

My Motorhome has had all new 240 v wiring done to van not long ago as have all receipts from old owner

 

[woody65]

I have found someone who will fit the solar panel to the Motorhome.

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[woody65]

Sorry, what's the question?

No question lol as Iv already answered it buy a newer van obviously but considering it’s already been wired to 240 V and charges all appliances when on route so isn’t a complete dinosaur of a MH hey

 

[beas]

It’s not so much the habitation electronics, it is the electrics in the engine. Modern vehicles have an ECU (essentially a computer) as a previous poster said. Modern alarms ‘talk’ to the ECU and other electronic components. It’s like trying to get your old Nokia phone to do internet banking or watch a YouTube video, it won’t work.

 

[woody65]

It’s not so much the habitation electronics, it is the electrics in the engine. Modern vehicles have an ECU (essentially a computer) as a previous poster said. Modern alarms ‘talk’ to the ECU and other electronic components. It’s like trying to get your old Nokia phone to do internet banking or watch a YouTube video, it won’t work.

It’s had a fully rebuilt engine plus head converter done so now can run on unleaded if that can be converted can’t the electronic be updated too?

 

[Figaro]

It’s had a fully rebuilt engine plus head converter done so now can run on unleaded if that can be converted can’t the electronic be updated too?

At what cost though, even it it were possible ? which it probably isn't, why would you.
What age is your vehicle ? modern engines are very different from old ones

 

[irnbru]

Maybe not what you were looking for but could you maybe fit something like a clutch claw? Do you have a swivel seat you could swivel around then put a padlock through. Both detterants.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen but from the posts on many forums most vans are sold to be put on the black market/shipped abroad. I don't believe there's much interest in older vans, though it didn't stop us wanting to secure our first old van as best as we could. With older vans is there a cut off switch or relay you could remove perhaps.

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[mitzimad]

The growler is probably designed to integrate with the can bus and ecu since you have neither i would think its nigh impossible to use that model. On the plus side its probably much easier for a competent auto electrician to fit an adequate alarm and some hidden kill switches you don't say if its petrol or diesel so cant advise you on how
Having the 240v wiring upgraded is neither here nor there as its a standalone system not part of the vans wiring
Another bonus is it not a van most thieves would be looking for
Theres no reason you cant hide a trackable phone inside the van with a charger wired in permanently if you feel you need a tracker

 

[woody65]

Hi it’s petrol and thanks for your post

 

[Itsmcb]

You should be pleased you have an older van (like mine) no stupid electronics or emissions equipment to go wrong. You can't jump start a modern vehicle without worrying about destroying the onboard computer and you have to fill a little tank with animal pee to make it work properly, or have some special chip fitted to foil the pee computer . Not to mention smart alternators or start/stop systems.

 

[JJ]

What van is it?

JJ

 

[Itsmcb]

1982 talbot glendale

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[Itsmcb]

To be honest I don't worry too much about mine being stolen. It's of an age where professional thieves won't be interested and it's too slow to joy ride. I have a pedal lock which would put off anyone that just wants to drive home from the pub

 

[mitzimad]

Hi it’s petrol and thanks for your post

just take the rotor arm off

 

[eddie]

Before I bought a Motorhome I didn’t know you needed relatively newish vans, as was rather disappointed to be told I wouldn’t be able to have a growler alarm fitted to mine as told by the gentleman on the phone from van blitz who ask me to hold the line and on return said was unable to do it to a MH that old also at the same time was going to have solar system fitted to roof again told would need to have a look I can assure you my roof is sound and hasn’t collapsed yet lol other wise I wouldn’t of bought it maybe nearly 40 years old my M.H but not able to have a singing and dancing alarm that Iv read so many good testimonies about it is rather annoying really that an old M.H can’t have the same security from this company.

In 1988 when my wife and I bought our first motorhome, an Autohomes Highwayman, we wanted a Bedouin but couldn‘t afford the extra £500 lol

It was on 2L Talbot Express, which I know inside out and back to front. Being a very young couple, a young skint couple we didn’t want our new family motorhome stolen, so spent ages messing about with various security options, some which worked, some which didn’t.

We met and made friends with others, luckily enough meeting a couple of other families with young children like us. The person that Ian went to seek advice from was Ashley, the General Manager at Van Bitz who would have been four at the time!

In 1990 life took a turn that it meant I could give alarm fitting to motorhomes full time, and we decided to give it Six months to see if we could make a living from our passion.

Six months soon became Six years, and we were hopelessly short of space and facilities working from our home in Brixham, things had moved on, along with phones, TV’s, cameras, Walkmans, video recorders, PC’s and motorhomes!

So we moved to Cornish Farm and next big milestone? we employed another alarm installer, and guess who was our first member of staff? Ian! then two years later, Geoff

The office is now run by Ash, Ian, Geoff and part time Louise, with four techs in the workshop, with only Dave, the workshop manager even being alive in 1982!

Read any review and the underlying theme is professional neat installation and fantastic back up, that is because we know vans inside out and back to front, we don’t claim to be motorhomes specialists, then insult our customers intelligence by having, caravan, car and plant equipment on our website

Want to hide a tree, stick it in a Forrest, so, we keep Fiat style conduit, clips, brackets etc, Ford looming tape to make sure that our wiring looms blends in, plus loads more.

I am the only person who would have a detailed working knowledge of your Talbot, so the installer tasked with your job would be tasked with referring through my old installation notes over thirty years old, then trying to workout how to adapt a 2022 sophisticated electronic control unit, onto a vehicle with a very rudimentary wiring set up.

Depending on the size, style and specifications, we install three or four systems a day. Obviously parts that we know are prone to ”ping off” and break, such as dash clips and trim clips etc we keep in stock ‘just in case’

Taking a forty year old dash to pieces is Russian roulette, if we break it, we’d have to fix it, but how? Screws that have been in place for forty years, rusted, seized or damaged. There are a myriad of potential problems, how do we know, it’s what we do, day in day out.

Bearing in mind neither Glendale or Talbot even exist anymore.

You feel aggrieved that we’ve politely refused the job, but don’t we have as much right to refuse work, as you? Just because you want us to do something doesn’t mean we have to do it. You wanted to use us because of our good reputation, a good reputation takes a long time to build, and being honest and frank is part of that.

And having spoken to the office when I read a previous post you made about Van Bitz refusing your work, Ian didn’t refuse to quote for a solar panel installation, he said, correctly and sensibly in my view that we would need to survey the roof before we would be prepared to allocate valuable workshop for the installation.

I 100% agree that is the only way to proceed with a forty year old roof.

I am really glad that your Talbot Express is in excellent order, the majority of Talbot Express’s from that era are long gone to the great campsite in the Sky

 

[irnbru]

Well that must've taken quite a few minutes to type up with your response eddievanbitz . A good explanation like that shows how much you care about your business.