Help with choice between these motorhomes

[rockhopper353]

Considering buying a roller team 785 or a benimar mileo 294, both 2016 models.

Other option is an older Adria Coral 670, I don't mind a slightly older motorhome if the build quality is better with the Adria.
Any one have or had one of these, or anyone with any thoughts on which is better quality/better buy? Thanks

 

[Guigsy]

Benimar and Roller Team are both owned by the Trigano Group. They are made in different factories, but they have a lot of similarities for a reason. From what I've seen, they are similar build quality, both reasonable. Just different styling.

Are either of the 2016 vans Euro6?

 

[rockhopper353]

Benimar and Roller Team are both owned by the Trigano Group. They are made in different factories, but they have a lot of similarities for a reason. From what I've seen, they are similar build quality, both reasonable. Just different styling.

Are either of the 2016 vans Euro6?

Thanks, I'm not sure if they are Euro 6, I'm going to view the roller team one tomorrow so should hopefully find out.

 

[pagey]

nowadays a euro 6 is the best idea if the layout suits you

 

[Emmit]

1st Consideration- Payload
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2nd Consideration-Payload
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3rd Consideration -Payload

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[BouncyBoatFolk]

Roller team , 6 berth 7.5mt, the payload will be dubious for a family, or even two couples.
Mike.

 

[rockhopper353]

So, are we saying that both should be ruled out because of payload?

I'm sure there are plenty of folk thoroughly enjoying these motorhomes, is the thinking that a lot are illegal on the road.

The majority of the time there will be just myself and my good lady, occasionally very young grandchildren.

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

The mantra is about 400kg for a couples essentials, then plus any extras, in your case grandchildren, and buckets and spades + any other children paraphernalia. It soon mounts up.
Mike.

 

[rockhopper353]

The mantra is about 400kg for a couples essentials, then plus any extras, in your case grandchildren, and buckets and spades + any other children paraphernalia. It soon mounts up.
Mike.

Is that rough figure of 400kg for everything discounting ourselves Mike?

 

[gus-lopez]

is the thinking that a lot are illegal on the road.

yes.

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[pampam]

Thats 20 suitcases if you were flyin to benidorm

 

[Emmit]

The 400kgs doesn't include anyone other than the driver (and he/she is allowed 75kgs,)
It doesn't include, in no particular order, (and not restricted to), bedding, food, liquids other than fuel, clothing,
tables not screwed down, chairs similarly restricted, cycles, cycle racks, spare wheels, jacks
any gas container over a 6kgs and the gas in it, toys? utensils, stuff in a man cave, toiletries.

The list is endless.

When I posted the consideration of Payload (above) I was not being critical of the choices offered.
I was merely pointing out that to pick a van with a small amount of Payload will eventually restrict
your enjoyment of this wonderful hobby/pastime.

 

[rolosroller]

I think roller team 785 2016 model is euro6

 

[rockhopper353]

The 400kgs doesn't include anyone other than the driver (and he/she is allowed 75kgs,)
It doesn't include, in no particular order, (and not restricted to), bedding, food, liquids other than fuel, clothing,
tables not screwed down, chairs similarly restricted, cycles, cycle racks, spare wheels, jacks
any gas container over a 6kgs and the gas in it, toys? utensils, stuff in a man cave, toiletries.

The list is endless.

When I posted the consideration of Payload (above) I was not being critical of the choices offered.
I was merely pointing out that to pick a van with a small amount of Payload will eventually restrict
your enjoyment of this wonderful hobby/pastime.

Thanks for putting the meat on the bones of the payload issue. I did realise that the Benimar in particular is very tight.

It's tricky finding something we both like with a generous payload, I am not restricted to 3500 kg but obviously the vast majority of motorhomes are only rated to the above for obvious reasons by manufacturers.

The article I've found on here, says the average couple require 400kg, I understand this is a basic list but does include a bike etc, so the roller team up plated providing 575kg may be feasible??

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

It depends on the level of on the road comfort and enjoyment you wish to have. Many manage that payload, but you will have to scrutinise every object taken on board and weigh it, does it earn it's place on board.
Manufacturers sell the dream,the reality is sometimes a product unfit for it's given purpose.
Luckily, after market dream makers can come to your rescue, but at a cost.
Write down everything you think you'll need and add a weight value to it.
You'll soon arrive at the van payload you'll need.
Good luck.
Mike.

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[VXman]

Thanks for putting the meat on the bones of the payload issue. I did realise that the Benimar in particular is very tight.

It's tricky finding something we both like with a generous payload, I am not restricted to 3500 kg but obviously the vast majority of motorhomes are only rated to the above for obvious reasons by manufacturers.

The article I've found on here, says the average couple require 400kg, I understand this is a basic list but does include a bike etc, so the roller team up plated providing 575kg may be feasible??

Won't cost much to update. £150 for paper work with van Weight Engineering. You may get it to 3850 with no modifications. Depends....does it have 15 or 16 inch wheels?

£600 to add rear air assist on the suspension would add a lot more.

Speak to Van Weight Engineering and they will tell you what your possibilities are if you give them the current specs.

Van Weight Engineering

Need to change the weight of your vehicle? You're in the right place.

www.vanweightengineering.com

 

[cyberyacht]

You can never be too thin, too rich or have too much payload - Wallis Simpson

 

[MisterB]

Adria quality shouldn't be ignored.....

 

[rockhopper353]

It depends on the level of on the road comfort and enjoyment you wish to have. Many manage that payload, but you will have to scrutinise every object taken on board and weigh it, does it earn it's place on board.
Manufacturers sell the dream,the reality is sometimes a product unfit for it's given purpose.
Luckily, after market dream makers can come to your rescue, but at a cost.
Write down everything you think you'll need and add a weight value to it.
You'll soon arrive at the van payload you'll need.
Good luck.
Mike.

Thanks Mike, good stuff. Think I may be able to manage with roller team at 575 kg up plated, the benimar would be tough though.

 

[rockhopper353]

Adria quality shouldn't be ignored.....

The Adria although older does appeal and looks good from photos and videos I've seen. The ones I've seen are a 12 hour round trip away unfortunately.

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[rockhopper353]

Won't cost much to update. £150 for paper work with van Weight Engineering. You may get it to 3850 with no modifications. Depends....does it have 15 or 16 inch wheels?

£600 to add rear air assist on the suspension would add a lot more.

Speak to Van Weight Engineering and they will tell you what your possibilities are if you give them the current specs.

Van Weight Engineering

Need to change the weight of your vehicle? You're in the right place.

www.vanweightengineering.com

Appreciate the link. I'll definitely look to up plate, and possibly look at air suspension if we are still finding it tough to stay under the max weight.

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

Thanks Mike, good stuff. Think I may be able to manage with roller team at 575 kg up plated, the benimar would be tough though.

Hi, perhaps email Dee at VWE giving him the van model, he will almost certainly have up-plated one of those previously so can give you the lie of land in respect what can reasonably be achieved, and what ultimately with some extras it could be maxed out to.
Mike.

 

[rockhopper353]

Hi, perhaps email Dee at VWE giving him the van model, he will almost certainly have up-plated one of those previously so can give you the lie of land in respect what can reasonably be achieved, and what ultimately with some extras it could be maxed out to.
Mike.

Cheers Mike, will do. Took one out for a test drive today, my first time driving a motorhome. A few squeaks and rattles but I was expecting that, drove fine though.

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

Tea towels are your best buddy, especially in and around the oven. Patiently working your way around and solving each noise is the best approach.

Mike.

 

[Phill D]

We have an Adria 670 SLT from new for the past 9 years. the ONLY! issues i have had to date are with the FIAT , usual air bag fault, DPF sensor fault,

the Adria has been great. prior to it had a CI Carioca which was re badged Roller team. had that 3 years from new could not wait to get rid, style was lovely, build was crap. constant issues with ill fitting locker doors that let in water, habitation door that did not fit, delaminatioin of part of the internal ceiling.

ok , i had a Friday afternoon made motorhome , but never again.

would have another Adria tomorrow if i wanted a change.

have had no issues with the payload for the 2 of us and occasional grand child.

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[rockhopper353]

We have an Adria 670 SLT from new for the past 9 years. the ONLY! issues i have had to date are with the FIAT , usual air bag fault, DPF sensor fault,

the Adria has been great. prior to it had a CI Carioca which was re badged Roller team. had that 3 years from new could not wait to get rid, style was lovely, build was crap. constant issues with ill fitting locker doors that let in water, habitation door that did not fit, delaminatioin of part of the internal ceiling.

ok , i had a Friday afternoon made motorhome , but never again.

would have another Adria tomorrow if i wanted a change.

have had no issues with the payload for the 2 of us and occasional grand child.

Was that a 2012, the two I've seen available are 2012 and 2013. The layout looks like what we are looking for, I'd love to look at one, unfortunately they are both 6 hour drives away.

Are the single beds a decent length, I'm 6' 2". The roller team ones I saw today were a good length, big enough for me.

 

[Phill D]

Was that a 2012, the two I've seen available are 2012 and 2013. The layout looks like what we are looking for, I'd love to look at one, unfortunately they are both 6 hour drives away.

Are the single beds a decent length, I'm 6' 2". The roller team ones I saw today were a good length, big enough for me.

I'm a mere 5, 8. I'll measure the bed in the morning if you want me to.
And yes it's a 2012.

 

[Lenny HB]

You need to take into account any extras that have been fitted as they come off the payload. Awning, spare wheel, second battery etc.

 

[VXman]

I wonder how many of these ' I have no issues with payload' have ever actually had the van weighed whilst fully loaded?

 

[MisterB]

The Adria although older does appeal and looks good from photos and videos I've seen. The ones I've seen are a 12 hour round trip away unfortunately.

you could always see if any Funster lives nearby and could take a quick look and report back? (most funsters love looking around other peoples motorhomes LOL)

where is the motorhome? i would be happy take a look if its not too far away and as we also have the 670 SLT (2018) we can compare it to ours to see how well it has 'aged'


when we sold our last motorhome privately, we did a whatsapp video call to the interested buyer and were able to show them anything they wanted to look at in real time, so they could ask questions - we found that better than just making a video of the things we thought they may want to see and they felt happier because they could look at the motorhome in much more detail - perhaps they would do the same for you?

12 hour round trip isnt that bad, if youre getting what you want and you want to be sure. its a lot of money to spend, so the more time you take in choosing what suits you will be time well spent.