I'm about to install a Bullfinch BBQ point. In an ideal world I'd like the control to be with the other existing taps. Does anyone know if a single tap is available to connect to the blank end of the existing 3 way? Either direct or via a short length of pipe.
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Thanks, but aren't they two male fittings? Would I need a short length of 8mm pipe?
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yes a 50mm offcut to join them up, but you will have some to run to the outlet anyway
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Why not replace your 3 way manifold with a 4 way manifold.
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Why not replace your 3 way manifold with a 4 way manifold.
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It's an option, but (a) they're expensive, and (b) whilst I've always done my own gas connections successfully, I'm always nervous about it and if I can avoid remaking 3 connections, so much the better. It's looking the most likely option though.
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Your not going to be remaking connections for the existing services, just re-attaching them. Your existing 3 way manifold looks and is likely to be a Truma one, so a simple fit, and you can probably peel off and reuse the labels on the taps as well.
I use a dab of TRU-BLU on the threads and olives when I do any gas work on our van and I have not had a leak to date.
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I use a dab of TRU-BLU on the threads and olives when I do any gas work on our van and I have not had a leak to date.
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No sealants or PTFE tape on gas jointsYour not going to be remaking connections for the existing services, just re-attaching them. Your existing 3 way manifold looks and is likely to be a Truma one, so a simple fit, and you can probably peel off and reuse the labels on the taps as well.
I use a dab of TRU-BLU on the threads and olives when I do any gas work on our van and I have not had a leak to date.
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It actually only disguises a bad joint
It’s actually a big no no in the gas world .
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If you look carefully at the pictures I posted, you'll see that Hymer have used some red sealant on all the pipe connections.
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No mention of LPG ?
Here’s what the relevant standard for LPG in leisure vehicle installations say
Only jointing compounds complying with EN 751-2 and suitable for use with LPG shall be used and in accordance with the jointing compound manufacturer‘s instructions. Such jointing compounds shall only be applied to the male thread of threaded fitting, see e) from Figure 7. Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) tape complying with EN 751-3 used in the manner prescribed by the tape manufacturer is acceptable.
Jointing compounds shall not be used on all other fittings.
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The little blobs of red on the fittings are anti tamper paint so the manufacturers/dealers know when Silicone Bob and his merry band of PTFE bandits have been messing
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they are the male threads mention in the previous post
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I thought it was "It’s actually a big no no in the gas world ." and then you go and post that PTFE is acceptable.
You missed the circled line.
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Did you read my post ?
You are trying to educate me ?
I am actually Gas safe Registered
sealant is only for threaded joints
That’s a Male fitting screwed into a female fitting as in your examples .
I was really only trying to educate but the experts always know better
No sealants or PTFE on any other type of joints .
As in figure e
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I use a tube of red calortite gas jointing compound I inherited from my Dad when he died in 1987. Just a very little smear is all that is needed. Heavens forbid I even used it on gas connections in the house, in the day when us mere mortals were allowed to DIY them. The only trouble is it is a bugger to get off your fingers and leaves a mess on anything else you touch.
It mentions propane vapour.
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Took me a while but when I looked at all the other reactive stuff it sealed I couldn't believe LPG was missing. So I took another look
.I'm pleased you're emphasising correct use (threaded connections only). I've found all sorts of stuff gobbed over compression / conical joints of all types.
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Dealers fixed a customers leak the other dayTook me a while but when I looked at all the other reactive stuff it sealed I couldn't believe LPG was missing. So I took another look
I'm pleased you're emphasising correct use (threaded connections only). I've found all sorts of stuff gobbed over compression / conical joints of all types.
PTFE and some sticky sealant on the compression joint to regulator
secondhand van 14 plate so still a few quids worth
Fitted him a newCavagna regulator for £20 cut pipe as it was maladgerated , hence why it was leaking .
Well I've ordered a 10mm nut to 8mm pipe from Autogas 2000
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and some 10mm Truma stepped olives, thanks to Nixdorfer in TinaL thread,
https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/foru...lator-manifold-extension.177828/#post-4048593
and a single tap from Camperlands. I'm probably going to use Faro pipe as I did last time which is easier to thread through.
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and some 10mm Truma stepped olives, thanks to Nixdorfer in TinaL thread,
https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/foru...lator-manifold-extension.177828/#post-4048593
and a single tap from Camperlands. I'm probably going to use Faro pipe as I did last time which is easier to thread through.
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I've got a tube of that I bought it around 1989.
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[QUOTE="emjaiuk, post: 4051435, member: 8284" I'm probably going to use Faro pipe as I did last time which is easier to thread through.
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So you are going to all this trouble and then using Faro pipe ?
It’s probably absolutely fine but it’s certainly not permitted for use in a leisure vehicle gas system, don’t you wonder why nobody’s selling it for leisure vehicle use and no manufacturers are installing it ?
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So you are going to all this trouble and then using Faro pipe ?
It’s probably absolutely fine but it’s certainly not permitted for use in a leisure vehicle gas system, don’t you wonder why nobody’s selling it for leisure vehicle use and no manufacturers are installing it ?
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Thanks Basildog Luckily I hadn't heard of or even seen Faro pipe for sale, until now.
So glad even though fishing the 8mm copper pipe was a real pain that I have used the appropriate method.
emjaiuk pleased your are using the proper Truma compression olives for the taps & adaptors, they pretty unique in shape, compared to the standard olives you find out there.
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So glad even though fishing the 8mm copper pipe was a real pain that I have used the appropriate method.
emjaiuk pleased your are using the proper Truma compression olives for the taps & adaptors, they pretty unique in shape, compared to the standard olives you find out there.
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Is it just to show if its damaged, its been messed with?
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worries me, the op asking all these questions. Should you really be doing this rather than someone more qualified?
No I shouldn't, but trying to find a LPG qualified gas engineer around here who would fit a BBQ point for a reasonable cost has proved impossible, even though we are surrounded by marinas, although that might just mean they have plenty of easier work. Manufactures have no need of Faro pipe since they install gas pipe at an early stage of construction. I'm certain that Faro pipe correctly installed with the rubber lined securing clips and avoiding possible abrasions points is perfectly safe. Not being approved for an application means just that, it doesn't necessarily mean it's not suitable.
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