Hartal Flyscreen door repair (1 Viewer)

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After spending the last 2 days scratching my head as to how to fix our Hartal Flyscreen on the habitation door and after 3 Strip downs we have finally fixed the Flyscreen!
The strip down probably involved drilling out 10 or so rivets and unscrewing a couple of screws, this in total was probably less than 30 minutes.
The main issue was determining the direction of the pulley string setup and this is what I did wrong on the first 2 occasions.
The first thing to remember is the top string controls the bottom two strings and the bottom string controls the top two strings.
The second point is the joint in the string must be in the top left and bottom left of main draw section (above the first hole in both cases). I used a boot lace crimp tool and also added superglue to piece the string.
When re threading the plastic handle (the bit you hold when you close the blind) you need to ensure that none of the string gets caught up (there’s a small channel that the strings sit in).
Once you have built the blind back up, you will need to tension the string to ensure smooth operation. The top string is easy to retention using a small allan key. The bottom string is slightly more fiddly as it’s just a tie knot! We used a piece of tape to hold the string so we could test it. Once happy with the closing we tied a knot and trimmed the excess string.
Prior to starting the repair I wrote to Hartel in Germany and asked if they could supply repair instructions and after I had finished the repair I received a “general” diagram which they informed me was all that they could provide me without knowing the exact model.
In total including removal, repair and refitting I believe the job could be done in about 5 hours.
If I can answer any questions please let me know.
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Our hab door flyscreen has a frayed top chord probably caused by something sharp in the carcass somewhere. Fortunately we discovered this when the van was 6 months old so under warranty. It's going back to the dealers later this month for replacement, not repair. We reported this last November and it has taken three months for the replacement to arrive from Carthago. The dealer has quoted 4 hours to replace. It looks like a fair bit of the surrounding "furniture" will need removing as the frame sits behind this.

On our last van (a Burstner) the hab door had a rubbish bin attached and if the door was not well secured it could close on a closed flyscreen. Which it did a few times. Unfortunately the bottom clip (seen in the second photo above) broke and a replacemnt was obtained from Camper UK. Nearly £40 delivered for a small piece of plastic!
 

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After spending the last 2 days scratching my head as to how to fix our Hartal Flyscreen on the habitation door and after 3 Strip downs we have finally fixed the Flyscreen!
The strip down probably involved drilling out 10 or so rivets and unscrewing a couple of screws, this in total was probably less than 30 minutes.
The main issue was determining the direction of the pulley string setup and this is what I did wrong on the first 2 occasions.
The first thing to remember is the top string controls the bottom two strings and the bottom string controls the top two strings.
The second point is the joint in the string must be in the top left and bottom left of main draw section (above the first hole in both cases). I used a boot lace crimp tool and also added superglue to piece the string.
When re threading the plastic handle (the bit you hold when you close the blind) you need to ensure that none of the string gets caught up (there’s a small channel that the strings sit in).
Once you have built the blind back up, you will need to tension the string to ensure smooth operation. The top string is easy to retention using a small allan key. The bottom string is slightly more fiddly as it’s just a tie knot! We used a piece of tape to hold the string so we could test it. Once happy with the closing we tied a knot and trimmed the excess string.
Prior to starting the repair I wrote to Hartel in Germany and asked if they could supply repair instructions and after I had finished the repair I received a “general” diagram which they informed me was all that they could provide me without knowing the exact model.
In total including removal, repair and refitting I believe the job could be done in about 5 hours.
If I can answer any questions please let me know.View attachment 871446View attachment 871443View attachment 871444View attachment 871445

I have posted repairing Hartal door screens a few times on Fun before and here is one of them with info that may have helped you.

 

Lenny HB

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Did it on my first van years ago easy once you have realised how simple it is.
On my current van I've had to do similar to repair the windscreen privatcy blind.
 
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I have posted repairing Hartal door screens a few times on Fun before and here is one of them with info that may have helped you.

Thanks for your original post, I purchased the exact Kevlar string and Crimper kit as per your suggestion.
I am pleased I had a go at it, now I need to work out if I can retention one of our roofblinds.

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Our strings broke on the last trip. Had to wait until we got home to strip down.
Used Lenny HB tip of Kevlar Kite string to re string it.
Not the easiest of jobs but satisfying to have it back in place.
 
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Which make and model of roof blinds are you wanting to retention Jim?
Its a Dometic midi Heligan?, the blackout blind is fine but the Flyscreen section as begun to Sag slightly. It’s the bigger blind above the kitchen.
 
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