Hard wired dash cam

[Grahmes]

hi, has anybody hard-wired a dash am to a M/H.
In addition, I can only find dash cams that only fit to the windscreen. I don't want to have to move it to close the blinds. Cheers all. Happy Sunday

 

[GeriatricWanderer]

Just in the process of hard wiring mine in. Latest car has a power interior mirror so I'm hooking into that.
Just waiting for the new screen mount to arrive and then job done. No more wires trailing across/around/in/under/through the instrument panel.

 

[tonka]

There are some nice looking cameras that are built into the rear view mirror and attach to the existing one.
The TF card for recording fits inside the mirror/camera and also some have dual camera inputs so you can have a rear camera.
I was looking last night on ebay.. may order one..

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[Grahmes]

Yes, that's good - I have a screen that fits over the rear view mirror with the reversing camera on it-looks good thou.
Just had a look at the blackvue ones - they seem to have it sorted pretty well

 

[Jaws]

I hard wired mine and attached it to the mirror with a simple ally bracket.. Nothing clever at all

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[tonyidle]

Mine is on a small black CCTV camera bracket on dashboard at the bottom of the screen. It's set back to clear the blinds and the (permanent) wiring runs inside the screen heater trunking. It's a Hymer A class so the camera is well out of the drivers line of sight.

 

[pappajohn]

Just in the process of hard wiring mine in. Latest car has a power interior mirror so I'm hooking into that.
Just waiting for the new screen mount to arrive and then job done. No more wires trailing across/around/in/under/through the instrument panel.

Check the voltage at the mirror first.
If the vehicle has a canbus system the voltage CAN be well below 12volts.

 

[GeriatricWanderer]

Check the voltage at the mirror first.
If the vehicle has a canbus system the voltage CAN be well below 12volts.

Thanks, have done, it's 12v

 

[tonyidle]

Check the voltage at the mirror first.
If the vehicle has a canbus system the voltage CAN be well below 12volts.

It shouldn't be. CANBUS should switch the supply to the mirror & the bus itself won't be anywhere near it.

 

[pappajohn]

It shouldn't be. CANBUS should switch the supply to the mirror & the bus itself won't be anywhere near it.

That's what I would expect yet the mirror voltage on my car is 8v.
I had to run above the headlining and down inside the door pillar trim to the cig lighter supply.

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[Reallyretired]

Mine is on a small cctv bracket on the underside of the drop down bed so is behind the blinds.
There is sill clearance for it when the bed is lowered.

 

[Rob Turner]

My Blackvue is mounted at the bottom of the screen and is fine tbh, it misses the blinds.
Not hard wired yet but will be shortly, straight to the leisure battery.

 

[StitchesnFluff]

Mine is on a small black CCTV camera bracket on dashboard at the bottom of the screen. It's set back to clear the blinds and the (permanent) wiring runs inside the screen heater trunking. It's a Hymer A class so the camera is well out of the drivers line of sight.

Hi tonyidle, would be good to see a pic of your setup
Thanks

 

[tonyidle]

That's what I would expect yet the mirror voltage on my car is 8v.
I had to run above the headlining and down inside the door pillar trim to the cig lighter supply.

Hmm .

 

[tonyidle]

Hi tonyidle, would be good to see a pic of your setup
Thanks

Here it is:

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[mike mcglynn]

I had an MOT on my car today and didn't take the dashcam off the windscreen and got 2 written advisories to move it prior to test so be warned .

 

[GJH]

My notes Here show how I mounted two dash cams in the van so that they do not obstruct the driver's view so no MOT issues.

 

[Grahmes]

Im the end, I have bought a thinkware f750 bought from the RAC shop and professionally hard-wired.
In sits at the bottom of the screen and fits between the windscreen and the blinds.
Very similar to the blackvue dash cams.

Thanks all for thoughts and help

 

[eddie]

Some of the units have voltage stabilisers and or fuses in the plug, so removing the plug isn't always a good idea. It also means that moving it to use in another vehicle is more hassle

However, it's simple to mount a socket under the dash and plug the camera into it. That way the wire can still neatly be lost down between the windscreen and the edge of the dash, but plugged into an additional 12 VDC socket

Mine is wired to be live when the ignition is on, with the unit having auto shutdown 15 minutes after the ignition is turned off.

This way it works every time I drive without any human (mine lol) interaction

 

[Geo]

Tony's mount is technically correct as its not on the screen, but an inexperienced MoT tester might incorrectly see it as being in the drivers view

Robs Camera is most certainly a failure, even with the camera removed the sticky mount is in the swept area B and looks bigger than the allowance.
But if 40mm or under diagonally in zone B swept area you could argue it is a pass and advise
Eddies solution to connection especially if used with a piggy back fuse is the simplest and safest, anyone contemplating cutting of the plug should tripple check camera volage. and anyone going direct to battery should realise if you forget to switch it off you will flatten your battery forget to switch it on and you might as well not bothered
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[tonyidle]

Tony's mount is technically correct as its not on the screen, but an inexperienced MoT tester might incorrectly see it as being in the drivers view

Robs Camera is most certainly a failure, even with the camera removed the sticky mount is in the swept area B and looks bigger than the allowance.
But if 40mm or under diagonally in zone B swept area you could argue it is a pass and advise
Eddies solution to connection especially if used with a piggy back fuse is the simplest and safest, anyone contemplating cutting of the plug should tripple check camera volage. and anyone going direct to battery should realise if you forget to switch it off you will flatten your battery forget to switch it on and you might as well not bothered
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Mine is definitely out of my line of sight - something that isn't clear from the photo. Looking down from the driving position I can see the wipers over the top of it. MoT man either agrees or hasn't noticed it as it has been there for the last two MoTs at least.

 

[Grahmes]

Mine is positioned so it does not get in the way of any vision. When I take the cover off the windscreen when we move on tomorrow; I will post a picture.

 

[kip]

Checked some of the reviews of the nextbase models on here & they aren't to bad so having the 312 fitted 2morrow at Halfords, £10 fitting charge & you get the hardwiring kit for nothing.I'm happy with that. .

 

[Geo]

It may come as a complete surprise to learn it has absolutely nothing to do with line of sight.
How could it?? I have no way of assessing what you or a shorter or taller person can see,
so therefore a strict set of things are put in place that have to be complied with wether it impeeds your view or not, and its those rules that determin a pass or fail
A landrover for instance can have 3 spare wheels and 6 Jerry cans bolted on his bonnet so he cant see s**t, but hes Not allowed a 11mm or 41mm chip in his screen, or a camera mount for that matter
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[Geo]

Checked some of the reviews of the nextbase models on here & they aren't to bad so having the 312 fitted 2morrow at Halfords, £10 fitting charge & you get the hard wiring kit for nothing.I'm happy with that. .

Have you confused yourself? Kip, fitting at Halfrauds is £30 including the kit which would cost £20 to buy on its own, so that means fitting is in essence costing £10, but not with a free kit too unless you are paying to much for the camera which should be £99 expect a bill of £129
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[Rob Turner]

Tony's mount is technically correct as its not on the screen, but an inexperienced MoT tester might incorrectly see it as being in the drivers view

Robs Camera is most certainly a failure, even with the camera removed the sticky mount is in the swept area B and looks bigger than the allowance.
But if 40mm or under diagonally in zone B swept area you could argue it is a pass and advise
Eddies solution to connection especially if used with a piggy back fuse is the simplest and safest, anyone contemplating cutting of the plug should tripple check camera volage. and anyone going direct to battery should realise if you forget to switch it off you will flatten your battery forget to switch it on and you might as well not bothered
G

It won't bother me, I'll be changing the van before the MOT is due

 

[kip]

Have you confused yourself? Kip, fitting at Halfrauds is £30 including the kit which would cost £20 to buy on its own, so that means fitting is in essence costing £10, but not with a free kit too unless you are paying to much for the camera which should be £99 expect a bill of £129

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whoops once a numpty .say no more !!​

 

[tonyidle]

It may come as a complete surprise to learn it has absolutely nothing to do with line of sight.
How could it?? I have no way of assessing what you or a shorter or taller person can see,
so therefore a strict set of things are put in place that have to be complied with wether it impeeds your view or not, and its those rules that determin a pass or fail
A landrover for instance can have 3 spare wheels and 6 Jerry cans bolted on his bonnet so he cant see s**t, but hes Not allowed a 11mm or 41mm chip in his screen, or a camera mount for that matter
G

I know it hasn't and it doesn't contravene the MoT requirements anyway. But it would irritate the hell out of me if it was in line of sight.

 

[Geo]

It won't bother me, I'll be changing the van before the MOT is due

Remind me not to buy off you Rob
Doesn't bother me either as mine is also in an MoT fail spot as it unfortunately happens to be the best place for them but mine is removable for the test
The purpose of my post is due to mounting methods now trending toward a better and more permanent mounting system it could mean MoT Fails for those that don't realise, and result in an inconvenient if not expensive destruction of a sticky camera mount along with the risks involved of removing such an item
I can't think of any tester loosing sleep over telling you to remove it or fail, but many who would, over loosing his job because he wanted to appear reasonable.
Remember we get ingognito vehicles in for test many times a year from both DVSA and Trading Standards, and its these silly little faults that cost many their livelihood
so you might just be setting your friendly tester up for a fall
If your mount is in Area A it must be smaller than 10mm
If you mount is in Area B it must be smaller than 40 mm
Anything larger than these figures in these areas is an obstruction to drivers view for the purpose of the Mot test.
even IF its not in your line of sight

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[Geo]

For the record and to demonstrate how pedantic the rules can be
next time your in you car, take a look through zones A and zones B
Take note of how much of the road you cant see because of your bonnet
are things stuck in that area an obstruction Yes or No have a guess

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