Food to France

[sylvester1954]

Off to France via tunnel next week and still trying to get ones head around potential 'contraband' ie food.
I understand that one cannot take dairy produce, meat etc . But our dogs diet means she has a preference for a particular Tin of dog meat. Would it be wrong to smuggle a dozen tins with us and then wait to see if the French customs carry out a full shakedown on our van, in fact have any funsters been stopped and searched recently?

 

[Skez]

Would it be wrong to smuggle a dozen tins with us and then wait to see if the French customs carry out a full shakedown on our van, in fact have any funsters been stopped and searched recently?

I haven't read the rules in respect of dog food as it doesn't affect us - but if your view is that you're 'smuggling' the stuff then...................

Depends how that sits with you as to whether you follow that course of action, but if you're challenged (caught) then surely you'd expect the border staff to go through your van with a fine toothed comb - wouldn't you??

 

[69473]

You need to check the food exemption list on the European commission website.
Please check but I think there is an exemption for 2kg of dog food for medically supported conditions.
What that means and if any supporting paperwork is required I don't know.
Personally I wouldn't smuggle, dont expect much sympathy from French boarder force after Priti Patels actions this last week.
Have a great holiday.

 

[Larby]

I arrived in France in July and freezer had Cornish pasties, sausages etc.
Fridge full of dairy products.
No one has reported having their fridge examined in a Motorhome.

 

[dash300]

I have a Labrador. Need I say more?!!

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[MichaelT]

This year they are not checking due to COVID-19 so I would stock up and take the risk, if they do search and confiscate your sausages so what its only a few quid, just give a gallic shrug and play ignorance

 

[phase3begins]

‘Would it be wrong to smuggle a dozen tins ……’

 

[MichaelT]

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‘Would it be wrong to smuggle a dozen tins ……’

Up to you, sheeps and lambs come to mind. If you're that worried either don't take anything or don't go?

 

[Landy Andy]

We just took our dogs wet, and dry food, but was prepared to loose it if required. No interest in anything at all.

 

[cyberyacht]

Does it actually apply to tins as well then? I thought it was just fresh/ plastic packs.

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[Richard n Ann]

We crossed on the 1st of September. They weren't interested in what food we had on board at all.

 

[Wh05apk]

Just because they didn't check doesn't make it legal, would you smuggle drugs, or guns just because you didn't think you would get checked?

 

[Clickem]

I would not smuggle drugs or guns, but do feel that a bit of meat or dairy produce, for my own consumption,
is in a different league

 

[Reusables]

I've just heard off a reliable source (fella down the road called Barry) that yes you can take tins of dog food as long as they are not for resale..

Feel Better now?

 

[busby]

Just because they didn't check doesn't make it legal, would you smuggle drugs, or guns just because you didn't think you would get checked?

Just a slight difference in morality and consequence.BUSBY.

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[Wh05apk]

Just a slight difference in morality and consequence.BUSBY.

True, but still "smuggling" and illegal.

 

[phase3begins]

I would not smuggle drugs or guns, but do feel that a bit of meat or dairy produce, for my own consumption,
is in a different league

Brilliant. Does that mean we can break any laws we like if we declare there are different leagues?
an interesting approach.

 

[Clickem]

Brilliant. Does that mean we can break any laws we like if we declare there are different leagues?
an interesting approach.

“Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.” Douglas Bader

 

[phase3begins]

“Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.” Douglas Bader

That gets trotted out ad nauseam but doesn’t actually address the issue. Are you really saying that it is OK to ignore / modify any laws you don’t like?

how about child abuse - got a level that’s OK?

 

[Clickem]

That gets trotted out ad nauseam but doesn’t actually address the issue. Are you really saying that it is OK to ignore / modify any laws you don’t like?

how about child abuse - got a level that’s OK?

No, that comes into the same category as drugs and guns

I would like to think that I have a good moral compass, but do object to rules that appear to be made just for the sake of it

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[Spriddler]

Contact the dog food manufacturer who may well have already addressed this question from owners. Even French dogs eat tinned food so there's a fair chance that the same manufacturer's food is available abroad, even if it has a different name.

 

[phase3begins]

No, that comes into the same category as drugs and guns

I would like to think that I have a good moral compass, but do object to rules that appear to be made just for the sake of it

Couple of points. The Bader quote refers to rules not laws. they are very different things.
you still haven’t answered the original question. Is it OK to ignore / modify laws you don’t like?

 

[2657]

Couple of points. The Bader quote refers to rules not laws. they are very different things.
you still haven’t answered the original question. Is it OK to ignore / modify laws you don’t like?

Yes. If the law is patently foolish and ignoring it does no harm to anyone else.
Laws are constantly changing and what was illegal yesterday may be legal tomorrow and vice versa.

 

[Clickem]

Couple of points. The Bader quote refers to rules not laws. they are very different things.
you still haven’t answered the original question. Is it OK to ignore / modify laws you don’t like?

It is not about laws that I do not like. I do not like paying taxes, but I can see the need and would like to think that I abide by the tax laws. I cannot see the need to prohibit the carrying of food into Europe that was OK a year ago, but now is not

Isn’t a law a rule made by governments?

 

[Two of usI]

Didn't realise so many people on here must spend all evening polishing their halo's

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[busby]

True, but still "smuggling" and illegal.

So is speeding but who can honestly hold their head up and say they never did..even accidently or unknowingly.?? BUSBY.

 

[busby]

That gets trotted out ad nauseam but doesn’t actually address the issue. Are you really saying that it is OK to ignore / modify any laws you don’t like?

how about child abuse - got a level that’s OK?

Even that's open to opinion..Is a sharp smack abuse,, mental abuse can do more harm..BUSBY.

 

[Two of usI]

Just because they didn't check doesn't make it legal, would you smuggle drugs, or guns just because you didn't think you would get checked?

Assume that you park your car on a street facing the right direction with a parking light on !!!!!!!

 

[Clarky]

Didn't realise so many people on here must spend all evening polishing their halo's

My thoughts too.
You beat me to it.

Richard.

 

[gus-lopez]

Personally I wouldn't smuggle, dont expect much sympathy from French boarder force after Priti Patels actions this last week.

I would expect them to be above that but if they weren't I'd have no problem pointing out that the Mayor hopefully will be correct & we would fire upon the French border units for being the useless load of idle scum we all knew they werein not stopping years ago the egress of the illegals.& no there isn't anything they could do to me that I wouldn't repay a 1000 x over.

No, that comes into the same category as drugs and guns

I would like to think that I have a good moral compass, but do object to rules that appear to be made just for the sake of it

& that is what these are. having said that the UK wanted out so theoretically we are back to the nonsense we had 40+ years ago.

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