Took my van to the local fiat dealer to have the recent recall checked out. No problem all was well. Then the sucker punch. During the free health check they noticed one of the day time running Led lights wasn't working. How much are they to replace I asked expecting in the region of £30.They are a complete unit and are £460 she informed me rather apologeticly. I will never ever buy another fiat. What an absolute rip off this is.
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You can repair them as I understand
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Presume That is for a pair of genuine headlights? There are cheaper alternatives. £140 each or less.
Yes take to bits and solder in a new one ?Glad ours hasn't got any. Just the nighttime running ones that I switch on (NRLs?)
Calm down dear! There are other solutions as above.
I expect other makes are similar price.
I expect other makes are similar price.
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Are DRLs compulsory on a newish vehicle?
I know at MOT if anything is fitted it has to be working. But is it illegal to have one U/S in the 3 year period before 1st MOT?
Geoff
I know at MOT if anything is fitted it has to be working. But is it illegal to have one U/S in the 3 year period before 1st MOT?
Geoff
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Just something else not needed to go wrong..I put my headlights on when visibility is lomited,BUSBY.
According to the dealer it is an MOT failure.I wouldn't have been too bothered otherwise.
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Hmmm....
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My understanding. Is, like high levell brake lights, that it should only be a " major" if less than 50% of the bulbs/ led's are working.
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MOT Test of Lights and Headlamps | What is checked | Headlights | Reflectors - MOT Test Information
Headlamps for aim and operation Sidelights (known as position lamps) for location, operation and condition Side marker lamps and end outline marker lamps (as appropriate) for presence, location, operation and condition. Stop lamps for presence, operation and condition.
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DRL is only needed on vehicles first used on or after 1st march 2018 for mot
If you drill the opposite LED out it will look like it's supposed to be like that ??
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yes
But , with lorries that run more than one set of side lights each side if one bulb is out they are classed as having no lights that side: I fail to see how one led bulb, or more,not working
is any different ?
That might be because the high level brake light is only legal in the UK under EU regulations as C&U regs for the UK specifically state only one brake light on either side is legal. the Uk has to comply though as the EU reg ulation offers "greater safety " benefit & takes precedence over national regs.My understanding. Is, like high levell brake lights, that it should only be a " major" if less than 50% of the bulbs/ led's are working.
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Headlamps for aim and operation Sidelights (known as position lamps) for location, operation and condition Side marker lamps and end outline marker lamps (as appropriate) for presence, location, operation and condition. Stop lamps for presence, operation and condition.
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I thought it was 2011
Vehicle manufacturers must fit DRL to new types of passenger car and light goods vehicle (car derived vans) type approved to European vehicle requirements from February 2011 . In practice this means that any new model launched after this date, and many launched before, will be fitted with DRL. However, existing models on sale before this date without DRL fitted can continue to be sold and used indefinitely.
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Looks though I was right, this is from the testers manual
Only a minor(advisory)
Daytime running lamps
You only need to inspect daytime running lamps (DRLs) if they’re fitted as original equipment to vehicles first used on or after 1 March 2018.
| Defect | Category |
|---|---|
| (a) Lamp: (i) multiple light source up to a half not functioning (ii) missing, inoperative or in the case of a multiple light source more than a half not functioning | Minor Major |
| (b) Defective lens | Major |
| (c) Lamp: (i) not securely attached (ii) likely to become detached | Minor Major |
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Compulsory on vehicles where type approval was granted after 7th February 2011.
Headlamps with DRL £200 at Coastal Motorhomes.
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As per another post a while back we've got a problem with our near-side DRL fitted to our X250 Ducato (2013 registered) where only three out of six leds work constantly. The three circled work very intermittently.Compulsory on vehicles where type approval was granted after 7th February 2011.
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So, the questions (MOT imminent for the moho) -
- was the X250 type approval before or after Feb 2011?
- if half of them are working are we OK?
Think we might be able to permanently switch off the DRLs from the Multifunction Display Set-up Menu and was planning to do that. Would this be a problem for MOT?
I'm pretty convinced it's a loose \ corroded connector but weather has not been conducive for further investigation since return from last trip.
Weather permitting, I'm hoping to get a look-see over the next few days but ........
I'm also looking at Andy's Techno thread on scuttle leaks and will be taking that on when it (the weather) really improves!
As usual, guidance \ thoughts from the techie brigade much appreciated.
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Phone another MOT tester to ask, or DVSA.
Geoff
Phone another MOT tester to ask, or DVSA.
Geoff
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Please see my previous post
"Daytime running lamps
You only need to inspect daytime running lamps (DRLs) if they’re fitted as original equipment to vehicles first used on or after 1 March 2018"
"Daytime running lamps
You only need to inspect daytime running lamps (DRLs) if they’re fitted as original equipment to vehicles first used on or after 1 March 2018"
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Getting back to original thread. I have been looking at replacing LED DRL`s in black lenses on Peugeot Boxer X290 base moho for a while. The most expensive parts I have found were about £380/pair but you have option of buying lamps fitted with bulbs or without. Never checked current van but you must be able to replace bulbs?
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I always assumed that DTRL where to make your vehicle stand out during the day especially on very dull days, if that is the case why are there not any on the rear of vehicles , to stop being run into from behind
cal DVSA i think their trying to have your pants down if not its not a hard fix good quality soldering iron and a steady hand might only be a dry joint
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The high level brake lights on my Rapido where a series of small Filament bulbs, 3 of 5 had failed. when I tried the individual lamps disintegrated as I attempted their removal. I fastened a short length of strip LED`s to the backing and soldered them to the input/outlet with short fly leads, Job Done. Done the same with the Awning light above the door. Better light less current, win win.. Makers Spares prices are a rip off. 90% are made in the same sweat shop, as those on Flea Bay. eg;-FIAT, X250 Diesel Filter? Fiat = circa £250. The EXACT same from the same Chechk; Factory, same Numbers etc; £83 inc shipping from E-Bay.
. Makers Spares prices are a rip off. 90% are made in the same sweat shop, as those on Flea Bay. eg;-FIAT, X250 Diesel Filter? Fiat = circa £250. The EXACT same from the same Chechk; Factory, same Numbers etc; £83 inc shipping from E-Bay.Subscribers do not see these advertisements
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Thanks Geoff.
The guys \ girls are very good where I take our vehicles into (even take them in a bag of biscuits now and again!) so am tempted to just turn up and see what they say.
They only charge £29 for moho MOT and they've quoted me £175 for a full service (all filters, wheels off, etc....) and am thinking I'll get them to do this and have a look at the DRL as well if there's a problem. Moho is going in about three prior to expiry of current one so got a wee bit of time if required to repair.
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Yes that is for drl's. I was thinking & posting about front & rear led side lights which is what I think could be a problem if one is out
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