DVLA driving license medical

[flatpackchicken]

Just seen this Maybe registered Nurses can do our Medicals soon !!!!!!!

 

[golly]

Oh bugger, Im no longer registered could have been a nice little earner

 

[599]

Oh bugger, Im no longer registered could have been a nice little earner

hi golly. snap many moons ago i was at Tameside general m/c . in fact your avatar is from Robinson jam works in Droylsden m/c hubby worked there a spell. i can see the cobbled streets now the factory was built next to the canal . val

 

[Emmit]

All we needs now is to incorporate ex bobbies to do the C1 applications that don't involve medical problems.

We'd soon get that paper jam sorted.

 

[GROMIT69]

then all they have to do is take it away from the DVLA and everyone will be happy

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[Phill D]

Sorry to put a negative spin on it...
But we have enough trouble with follow up questions when doctor fills it in.
Unless the rest of the chain is streamlined then it will not make a lot of difference.

 

[Nigel P]

I cannot see any problems with the proposal for most of the basic renewals. The current system requires no medical skill whatsoever, the only part that is not form filling is height/weight/eyesight and blood pressure. It only becomes more complex when declaring medical conditions, a bit like green door/red door at customs. For those who have no relevant declarations it seems quite sensible to preclude the doctor involvement. It appears to be quite common practice at surgeries to refer more and more routine appointments to a range of suitably trained staff that are not necessarily doctors. On the face of it there should be a benefit for those without declared medical conditions as they would not need to use up GP time and by the same token it should free up those unused appointments for those who do need a GP involvement. I would be interested to see a bit more detail, but as a headline it appears to have promise.

 

[Phill D]

It's not the completion of the medical D4 that's the issue or the block.

It's what and how the DVLA process the D4 that is key to this.

Although I whole heartedly agree it can be a waste of a GP time.

 

[joe and sue]

It's not the completion of the medical D4 that's the issue or the block.

It's what and how the DVLA process the D4 that is key to this.

Although I whole heartedly agree it can be a waste of a GP time.

DVLA are the experts in wasting other people's time and money: I have well controlled type 2 diabetes, using small amounts of Insulin.
GP filled in original D4
DVLA paid for me to have second medical with my GP.
Then received a letter telling me to book a medical with a Diabetic Consultant, which DVLA paid for, because " A report from a GP is not acceptable"
Consultant commented that with my blood meter readings, eyesight test results and low medication levels, he did not know why they needed his opinion, waste of his and my time, (his words).

 

[gus-lopez]

It's what and how the DVLA process the D4 that is key to this.

This^^^^^^^^^^
You can do the mediclas 24/7 but if the dvla lot only meet every 6 months you are p****ing in the wind.Waste of time wants shutting down.

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[gus-lopez]

Consultant commented that with my blood meter readings, eyesight test results and low medication levels, he did not know why they needed his opinion, waste of his and my time, (his words).

& it might help the situation if they actually wrote that on the reports they are asked to send in?

 

[pappajohn]

then all they have to do is take it away from the DVLA and everyone will be happy

And then do away with it altogether.
It's ok to drive a 3.5t car or van towing a large trailer but not a 3600kg van.

 

[Phill D]

& it might help the situation if they actually wrote that on the reports they are asked to send in?

When the DVLA were messing with my application I asked my GP was there any reason I should not hold a C1 etc and his reply was that there were absolutely no reason.
I asked him to write that on the form, he said he was not allowed to do that and was only permitted to answer the questions placed by DVLA and tick relevant boxes.
He said he knew this as he had forms returned reminding him to complete only what was requested.

IMHO, changing who completes the D4 will change nothing for the applicant and certainly will not help process things more efficiently.

 

[joe and sue]

And then do away with it altogether.
It's ok to drive a 3.5t car or van towing a large trailer but not a 3600kg van.

Or a 155mph supercar!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Clipgate]

Experienced GPs often read between the lines, another discipline maybe less inclined to interpret in your favour.
I have no idea in this field however professional indemnity insurance may be interesting to secure, only time will tell.

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[Nigel P]

It's not the completion of the medical D4 that's the issue or the block.

It's what and how the DVLA process the D4 that is key to this.

Although I whole heartedly agree it can be a waste of a GP time.

Perhaps what I should have said is that the current process for routine renewals requires no medical intervention either at GP end or DVLA end. If all the answers on the D4 show no medical issues and show a normal blood pressure/weight/height result there should be nothing for DVLA to question. As such they should be processed at DVLA as per any ordinary licence renewal. Only those with declared medical history with obligations to inform DVLA would need to go through any medical 'vetting' at DVLA. This would clearly relieve some pressure on their department and hence provide a better service for those who have submitted D4s requiring scrutiny. We can hope, but history shows government departments struggle to move beyond tickover speed for most things.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

When my wife did her first D2 and D4 forms ,3 years ago ,she had her licence back within a couple of weeks she had no issues medically.
With mine a few weeks later the D2 had been filled in incorrectly,so I had to get the optician to rectify that on the D4 ,because I had a medical history I was put in for a treadmill test several weeks later. I passed that but had to request in the interim an ordinary licence to allow us to drive abroad ,the MH was less than 3.5 t.my C1 licence was sent 3 to 4 weeks later ,whilst we were abroad.if I had a MH of more than 3.5 t I couldn't have gone abroad without it. There were delays 3 years ago and further delays now if you have a medical history.
It needs some intervention to get DVLA sorted.

 

[Bessy765]

Sent mine off July still waiting second renewal of C1 entitlement

 

[Clipgate]

Possibly one area of delay is the relatively new obligation on a GP to report to the DVLA any relevant medical conditions.
This has added another tier of checking to a renewal, although it does not answer what I consider unacceptable service levels, it has a significance.

 

[joe and sue]

DVLA are the experts in wasting other people's time and money: I have well controlled type 2 diabetes, using small amounts of Insulin.
GP filled in original D4
DVLA paid for me to have second medical with my GP.
Then received a letter telling me to book a medical with a Diabetic Consultant, which DVLA paid for, because " A report from a GP is not acceptable"
Consultant commented that with my blood meter readings, eyesight test results and low medication levels, he did not know why they needed his opinion, waste of his and my time, (his words).

Now that i have had this latest medical, I have managed to speak to DVLA Medical Team,
Told them that the consultant said that there is no reason not to issue my licence with C1, so when can i expect my licence,
Was told that they do not take his comments into account, they (DVLA) now assess the data and decision is made by them.
I asked "what medical qualifications" do the assessors have, answer "NONE" they work by assessing the data only !!!!!!!!
What a farce
Joe

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[Jimbohorlicks]

Keep us all posted on the outcome please.

 

[joe and sue]

Keep us all posted on the outcome please.

Will do, hope you have plenty of time !!

 

[Bucket]

Sounds like a great move. I wonder if Mrs Bucket could do mine? She's a registered psychiatric nurse so perfectly qualified to tell them I'm not going to indulge in road rage (much)

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Sent mine off in August and just recieved a letter to attend a treadmill test.Just awaiting an appointment time as the designated place has stopped visitors due to covid.The Consultants secretary advised they will be renting a room at a private hospital to carry out the tests, on a Saturday and will be in touch ,they have had lots of referrals from the DVLA.

 

[joe and sue]

Sent mine off in August and just recieved a letter to attend a treadmill test.Just awaiting an appointment time as the designated place has stopped visitors due to covid.The Consultants secretary advised they will be renting a room at a private hospital to carry out the tests, on a Saturday and will be in touch ,they have had lots of referrals from the DVLA.

so DVLA wasting, sorry spending more of our (taxpayer's) money in renting private hospital space to carry out their tests,
Wonder who is on the boards of directors / shareholders of these private units ??
Only asking

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[Jimbohorlicks]

No it's the designated consultant who is renting a room in a private hospital .Due to the numbers he has to do it must be worthwhile for him to rent a room,/ space at a private hospital for the fee the DVLA pay to him for each referral.

 

[joe and sue]

No it's the designated consultant who is renting a room in a private hospital .Due to the numbers he has to do it must be worthwhile for him to rent a room,/ space at a private hospital for the fee the DVLA pay to him for each referral.

So indirectly it is us the taxpayer who is paying, and the private hospital who is profiting

 

[SteveRallye]

Had my treadmill test at Princess Diana hospital Grimsby approx 3 weeks ago. I was told that the DVLA were sending them all the tests to them. I was lucky found out on the Thursday and got a test the next day at teatime. That info was in a letter that had arrived while we were away on tour and I only had 5 days left to book a test and inform the DVLA out of the 5weeks in the original letter. So I 1st applied for my new licence in May 2021. Still waiting.

 

[Norman Jones]

Any recent experience on how long DVLA are taking after receipt of form?

 

[Bucket]

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