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This time next week we could be out of the EU but if we are in Spain after date can we come back with the dog ?
 
My understanding is the uk are not going to add any additional requirements over and above the pet passport the animal left with. Chris
 
Understand your concern but nobody knows.
 
I think if you look on the gov website it says on there..... however taking them out of uk who knows. My understanding was the OP was already out of uk

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The advice given a few months ago from the Ferries and DEFRA was that in the event of no deal, the situation will be the same as pet entry, from qualifying non EU countries.

In essence means that you should take your dog or cat to the vet four months in advance of travel for microchipping and rabies vaccinations.

A blood sample will also need to be sent to an EU-approved blood-testing laboratory for a certificate showing the vaccination was successful.

It cost us about £100 as we are off in about six weeks, and we had it done around Christmas when the announcement was made
 
If you are legal going out with the dogs Pets Passport then the entry requirements to UK on return are the same in the event of a no deal. It says on the Govt web site one of the following required: 1. Current Pets Passport, 2. Health Certificate (nobody has these yet. Our vet didn't have them when I phoned yesterday), forget other options but those are the two main ones.

So it seems that all you need is the usual worming treatment etc from vet abroad stamped in PP to return after Brexit. Going abroad after Brexit is still an unknown at present. May or may not need the Health Certificates. We have had one of our dogs blood tested just in case, other dog had already been done when her PP done.
 
Nirvanauk said:
Nobody knows at the moment.
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These guys do....................

Return to the UK
Your pet must have one of the following documents when returning to the UK:

  • an existing EU pet passport (both for UK and EU citizens)
  • the EU health certificate issued in the UK used to travel to the EU
  • a UK pet health certificate (issued outside the UK for travel into the UK only)
Check the routes before you travel. On existing approved routes your documents and microchip will be checked. If you’re not travelling on an approved route talk to your vet about what preparations you need to make before travel.

There will be no change to the current requirements for pets entering the UK from the EU after 29 March.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-europe-after-brexit

Pete
 
Tykatem said:
These guys do....................

Return to the UK
Your pet must have one of the following documents when returning to the UK:

  • an existing EU pet passport (both for UK and EU citizens)
  • the EU health certificate issued in the UK used to travel to the EU
  • a UK pet health certificate (issued outside the UK for travel into the UK only)
Check the routes before you travel. On existing approved routes your documents and microchip will be checked. If you’re not travelling on an approved route talk to your vet about what preparations you need to make before travel.

There will be no change to the current requirements for pets entering the UK from the EU after 29 March.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-europe-after-brexit

Pete
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As I say the whole thing cost about £100

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Rds559 said:
This time next week we could be out of the EU but if we are in Spain after date can we come back with the dog ?
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Speaking from personal experience my dogs would rather stay in Spain sunning themselves! :D
 
JJ said:
Would introducing a continental dog to life in Britain, with its weather, current government, and probable anti immigrant attitude from local dogs, constitute animal cruelty?

JJ :cool:
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Our dog is Portuguese. He's coped well with our rubbish English climate, however when we crossed the border into Portugal last year, based on his excitement and nose twitching, I swear he knew that he was back in his country of birth. He spreads 'entente cordial', or whatever the Portuguese equivalent is, whenever he meets another dog, however I don't let him watch the news in case he panics, packs his red spotty hanky and disappears back to his home country.
 
My GSD doesn't mind the UK but when abroad keeps wanting to walk into Poland
 
Tykatem said:
These guys do....................

Return to the UK
Your pet must have one of the following documents when returning to the UK:

  • an existing EU pet passport (both for UK and EU citizens)
  • the EU health certificate issued in the UK used to travel to the EU
  • a UK pet health certificate (issued outside the UK for travel into the UK only)
Check the routes before you travel. On existing approved routes your documents and microchip will be checked. If you’re not travelling on an approved route talk to your vet about what preparations you need to make before travel.

There will be no change to the current requirements for pets entering the UK from the EU after 29 March.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-europe-after-brexit

Pete
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But this is assuming no deal.

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I understood that in event of ‘no deal’ pet will have to have a blood test to show Rabies innoculation has made pet immune and you will have to stay in UK for 4 months!
In case of this we had our dog sorted before Xmas-£116. Vets for Pets and that was the cheapest we could find!
 
Shrimp said:
I understood that in event of ‘no deal’ pet will have to have a blood test to show Rabies innoculation has made pet immune and you will have to stay in UK for 4 months!
In case of this we had our dog sorted before Xmas-£116. Vets for Pets and that was the cheapest we could find!
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Hi Jan,

The time after the titre test pass certificate is 30 days - not 4 months.

No-one seems to know why you'd have to wait 30 days as if the the antibody levels are high enough to pass the test then waiting afterwards makes no sense.
 
Southdowners said:
Hi Jan,

The time after the titre test pass certificate is 30 days - not 4 months.

No-one seems to know why you'd have to wait 30 days as if the the antibody levels are high enough to pass the test then waiting afterwards makes no sense.
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The titre test results come back quickly enough but you have to stay in UK for that length of time!
Seems ridiculous as if you have a positive titre test, jabs & passport why can’t you travel!!!!!
Who’s Jan?:)
 
It's alright you have till may now lol

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Found this on GOV.UK site-


“However, to allow effective contingency planning in the worst case scenario of the UK not being granted third country status, you’ll need to take the following steps to make sure your pet can travel after 29 March 2019:

  1. You must get your dog, cat or ferret microchipped and then vaccinated against rabies before it can travel. Your pet must have a blood sample taken at least 30 days after the rabies vaccination. You’ll need to talk to your vet about whether you need a rabies vaccination or booster before this test.
  2. Your vet must send the blood sample to an .
  3. The results of the blood test must show that the vaccination was successful (Your pet must have a rabies antibody level of at least 0.5 IU/ml).
  4. You must wait 3 months from the date the successful blood sample was taken before you travel.
  5. You must take your pet to a Official Veterinarian (OV), no more than 10 days before travel to get a health certificate.
If there’s no deal, pet passports issued in the UK would not be valid for travel to the EU.”
 
Rules for pet travel
The rules for taking your pet to any EU country will change if the UK leaves the EU with no deal and is treated as an unlisted country.

You must get your dog, cat or ferret microchipped and then vaccinated against rabies before it can travel.

However, to allow effective contingency planning in the worst case scenario of the UK not being granted third country status, you’ll need to take the following steps to make sure your pet can travel after 29 March 2019:

  1. You must get your dog, cat or ferret microchipped and then vaccinated against rabies before it can travel. Your pet must have a blood sample taken at least 30 days after the rabies vaccination. You’ll need to talk to your vet about whether you need a rabies vaccination or booster before this test.
  2. Your vet must send the blood sample to an .
  3. The results of the blood test must show that the vaccination was successful (Your pet must have a rabies antibody level of at least 0.5 IU/ml).
  4. You must wait 3 months from the date the successful blood sample was taken before you travel.
  5. You must take your pet to a Official Veterinarian (OV), no more than 10 days before travel to get a health certificate.
If there’s no deal, pet passports issued in the UK would not be valid for travel to the EU.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-europe-after-brexit

Pete
 
Deleted as identical to the two posts above. Spoke to my vet yesterday and he has not yet received any copies of the “10 day” health certificate, but it should be noted that the health certificate in the Pet Passport is not an acceptable substitute
 
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Shrimp said:
The titre test results come back quickly enough but you have to stay in UK for that length of time!
Seems ridiculous as if you have a positive titre test, jabs & passport why can’t you travel!!!!!
Who’s Jan?:)
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Sorry, I thought you were Jan... :oops:
 
Tykatem said:
Even in the event of a deal, there will be no change to the current requirements for pets entering the UK from the EU after 29 March.

Pete
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But what the government says is in the event of NO deal.

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Nirvanauk said:
But what the government says is in the event of NO deal.
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Deal or no Deal. .....

Your pet must have one of the following documents when returning to the UK.
  • an existing EU pet passport (both for UK and EU citizens)
  • the EU health certificate issued in the UK used to travel to the EU
  • a UK pet health certificate (issued outside the UK for travel into the UK only
There will be no change to the current requirements for pets entering the UK from the EU after 11 April.

Travel from countries that are not free from tapeworm (Echinococcus multilocularis)
You’ll need to take your dog to a vet between one and five days before returning to the UK for an approved tapeworm treatment.

Pete
 
The OP asked WHAT to do if already out before & without the benefit of foresight ? Not what he might need to ENTER the EU afterthe 29th of march/april/May ,whenever.
eddievanbitz said:
The advice given a few months ago from the Ferries and DEFRA was that in the event of no deal, the situation will be the same as pet entry, from qualifying non EU countries.

In essence means that you should take your dog or cat to the vet four months in advance of travel for microchipping and rabies vaccinations.

A blood sample will also need to be sent to an EU-approved blood-testing laboratory for a certificate showing the vaccination was successful.

It cost us about £100 as we are off in about six weeks, and we had it done around Christmas when the announcement was made
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No that is what is Required to ENTER the EU from The UK as a non qualifying third world country. The same as my spanish dog will require to EXIT the UK to return home. Same as if he was returning from Morocco.

Shrimp said:
Found this on GOV.UK site-


“However, to allow effective contingency planning in the worst case scenario of the UK not being granted third country status, you’ll need to take the following steps to make sure your pet can travel after 29 March 2019:

  1. You must get your dog, cat or ferret microchipped and then vaccinated against rabies before it can travel. Your pet must have a blood sample taken at least 30 days after the rabies vaccination. You’ll need to talk to your vet about whether you need a rabies vaccination or booster before this test.
  2. Your vet must send the blood sample to an .
  3. The results of the blood test must show that the vaccination was successful (Your pet must have a rabies antibody level of at least 0.5 IU/ml).
  4. You must wait 3 months from the date the successful blood sample was taken before you travel.
  5. You must take your pet to a Official Veterinarian (OV), no more than 10 days before travel to get a health certificate.
If there’s no deal, pet passports issued in the UK would not be valid for travel to the EU.”
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As above that is to ENTER the EU.All a UK dog requires to get back in after the 29th assuming they have been out for months is a "10 day health certificate" whatever tf that is + an up to date pet passport..
 
gus-lopez said:
All a UK dog requires to get back in after the 29th assuming they have been out for months is a "10 day health certificate" whatever tf that is + an up to date pet passport..
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You do not need a third-country official veterinary certificate if your pet was issued with a pet passport before leaving the EU and the treatments are still valid. Any booster vaccinations or blood tests carried out from outside the EUmust be recorded on a third-country official veterinary certificate.

https://www.gov.uk/take-pet-abroad/pet-passport

when entering the UK with your pet you only require ONE of the following:-
  • an existing EU pet passport (both for UK and EU citizens)
  • the EU health certificate issued in the UK used to travel to the EU
  • a UK pet health certificate (issued outside the UK for travel into the UK only
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-europe-after-brexit

Pete
 
I am sure that I have asked this question before bit I cannot find my post.
There must be people in the same position as us, if so what advice has your vet given you.

I have Casper’s passport with a vets stamp and signature confirming that his blood sample passed the Titre test 8 years ago. I also have his passports with stamps in them (2 passports as the first one is full) proving that he has been kept up to date with his rabies inoculations.
Both our vet and DeFRA helpline ‘think’’ that it will be ok.
Does anyone know an different?
 
As an aside to all this, if your pet has filled a passport and is onto a new one you MUST take the old one with you as well to 'prove' the continuation of rabies inoculations from the start otherwise you might have issues trying to go anywhere with him/her!

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