Dog Seat Belts

[Nean]

Hi. Ideas on dog seat belts, which are crash tested? The info online is so confusing. My husband is worried about safety to the front passenger.

 

[Phill D]

I oubt there are many crash tested.

However a harness is recommended and a strop yo an anchor point.
We had a j9 harness and a 1m Web tether that slotted into a rear seat belt clip. (he was 20kgs and not allowed on the furniture). That allowed him to lay under the table or between the front seats.
We also had "Tommy tippy" type, water bowl within his reach during travel.

 

[RedFrame]

Interesting question, is there a Euro or British Standard for these?

I was always under the impression that they were to restrict the animal's movement in the vehicle, as the one we have attaches to Bannock's harness, which I'm pretty sure would "let go" in a 40mph accident (the plastic buckles on the harness).

Cheers
Red.

 

[DBK]

Interesting question, is there a Euro or British Standard for these?

I was always under the impression that they were to restrict the animal's movement in the vehicle, as the one we have attaches to Bannock's harness, which I'm pretty sure would "let go" in a 40mph accident (the plastic buckles on the harness).

Cheers
Red.

If it's got plastic buckles that's not a proper car harness to protect the dog in a crash. Ours has metal buckles.

A Google for "crash tested dog car harness" throws up a few.

 

[RedFrame]

A Google for "crash tested dog car harness" throws up a few.

I can't find a BSI/CE that covers them, unless they have either of those markings their "claims" are just words.

Cheers
Red.

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[Nean]

Thanks everyone for your comments. I haven’t found any kind of standard…or if there is, it’s worrying as I’m sure it would be promoted as s selling point. I think Red’s thought about metal buckles is a good one. I think the Kurgo harness and belt have these.

 

[Nean]

Exactly!

 

[Stealaway]

Thanks everyone for your comments. I haven’t found any kind of standard…or if there is, it’s worrying as I’m sure it would be promoted as s selling point. I think Red’s thought about metal buckles is a good one. I think the Kurgo harness and belt have these.

I bought two of eBay for about £3. I only use them to secure the doors to the seats as extra security.
They seem more than strong enough to retain even a big dog

 

[Nean]

Thank you

I’ve gone for the

Kurgo Enhanced Strength Tru-Fit Dog Car Harness, Crash Tested, Steel Nesting Buckles, Includes Seatbelt Tether, Large-Black​

Cheaper than some of them and we’re happy it’s passed the limit required tests. Having metal fastenings was a very good selling point for us.
Thanks everyone for all your ideas. Cant wait to set off on our first adventure…with Bess safely secured.

 

[DBK]

Thank you

I’ve gone for the

Kurgo Enhanced Strength Tru-Fit Dog Car Harness, Crash Tested, Steel Nesting Buckles, Includes Seatbelt Tether, Large-Black​

Cheaper than some of them and we’re happy it’s passed the limit required tests. Having metal fastenings was a very good selling point for us.
Thanks everyone for all your ideas. Cant wait to set off on our first adventure…with Bess safely secured.

We have used a Kurgo for our dog for a few years, never tried it in a crash so far and hope we never do!

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[DBK]

I bought two of eBay for about £3. I only use them to secure the doors to the seats as extra security.
They seem more than strong enough to retain even a big dog
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The lower component with the swivel is made out of cast "pot" metal and is likely to be weak. A large dog could put a strain of several hundred Kg on it in a crash. It will be fine for restraining a dog but I don't think it would be safe in a crash.

 

[Downsie]

I did a lot of research. As I’m on my own I want the dog on the front seat in both the van and the car so I can keep an eye on her. (Sorry if anyone disagrees, much safer for both of us!) I settled for the Kurgo harness but really didn’t like the tether, she was able to tie herself in knots. So I bought a headrest belt which clips onto the harness and am pleased with the combination. She has movement on the seat but cant get off it. I had to brake very heavily the other day in the car and it worked very well,

 

[RandallC]

it all depends where the dog sits and how much mass it has.

Our working Cocker is restrained by seat belt anchor clip to her collar in the car, primarliy to prevent her saying she needs a fuss whilst I'm driving/

In the MH she is on an extended version of the above which allows access to water & food but NOT beyond middle of both passenger & driver seats. As she either travels between the seats or to the drivers right (looking at where we going) poses no hazard to the passenger & driver

 

[Billylou]

it all depends where the dog sits and how much mass it has.

Our working Cocker is restrained by seat belt anchor clip to her collar in the car, primarliy to prevent her saying she needs a fuss whilst I'm driving/

In the MH she is on an extended version of the above which allows access to water & food but NOT beyond middle of both passenger & driver seats. As she either travels between the seats or to the drivers right (looking at where we going) poses no hazard to the passenger & driver

Hi RandallC can you let me know what you are using for the extended version of the anchor belt? Many thanks

 

[Val 3 dogs]

it all depends where the dog sits and how much mass it has.

Our working Cocker is restrained by seat belt anchor clip to her collar in the car, primarliy to prevent her saying she needs a fuss whilst I'm driving/

In the MH she is on an extended version of the above which allows access to water & food but NOT beyond middle of both passenger & driver seats. As she either travels between the seats or to the drivers right (looking at where we going) poses no hazard to the passenger & driver

I would be worried about the dog being anchored by her collar, in tbe case of an accident or even a sudden halt I fear her neck would be tbe first thing to break.

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[RandallC]

I would be worried about the dog being anchored by her collar, in tbe case of an accident or even a sudden halt I fear her neck would be tbe first thing to break.

Was also thinking similar but having experienced her running full tilt against 8m lead to get at pheasant or squirrel or cat have somewhat reduced concerns.

 

[RandallC]

Hi RandallC can you let me know what you are using for the extended version of the anchor belt? Many thanks

Hi Billylou.

The extended version is a suitable length of lead (used tape from a failed extending lead) and secured it to a rear seat belt stalk. So she can move about if necessary (but very rarely does unless stopped) however cant interfere with the driver/controls, e.g. dog underfoot of brake pedal!

Edit, tried her in a full harness, she hated it and got very stressed so coller attachment better than nothing

 

[pxh38257]

At 60kg we use a full harness on our Saint. The Harness has an adjustable seat belt strap attached so we can restrict her movement beyond the passenger seat. Once the harness is on she is happy to sit between the driver and passenger seat watching where we are going or just lays down and falls asleep. I do normally have to catch her at the back of the motorhome as soon as she sees the harness although she is getting better at wearing it.

 

[PrettyandFluffy]

Our dogs wear a harness to be clipped in, much safer than attaching to the collar.

 

[Fraggle 22]

Thanks everyone for your comments. I haven’t found any kind of standard…or if there is, it’s worrying as I’m sure it would be promoted as s selling point. I think Red’s thought about metal buckles is a good one. I think the Kurgo harness and belt have these.

We use Kurgo harnesses attached to plastic covered cables we got from Amazon connected by carabiners.Theses are threaded under the seats to anchor points in the garage. We have a rear lounge and this allows them freedom to either lay on the floor or on the seats. They weigh 42 and 32kgs respectively.

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[Beemobile]

I have RAC dog harnesses, extremely strong and not expensive, would highly recommend them.

 

[Nean]

Thanks…RAC ought to be safe.

 

[Nean]

Really appreciate your time in replying, everyone

 

[ukfetchfan]

We use Clix harnesses that are made with approved safety-standard seat-belt material and has been designed in a continuous loop, to ensure that in the event of an accident, maximum strength is retained.

 

[Ralph-n-Bev]

I oubt there are many crash tested.

Ours is. If you google crash tested dog safety harness you can see what happens if you don’t get one that’s strong enough.
The fasteners are crash tested metal . As are the D rings and the chest pad won’t split and tear or split your dog rib cage either. Don’t have them on a long tether either.
Fabric crates are neither use nor ornament. We thought they were ok and thought the walking harness was that we used too, till we saw this video

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[Nean]

Gosh that’s awful…feel quite sick at the thought of it…but very important video. Ralph-n-Bev, which harness have you got?

 

[Phill D]

Ours is. If you google crash tested dog safety harness you can see what happens if you don’t get one that’s strong enough.
The fasteners are crash tested metal . As are the D rings and the chest pad won’t split and tear or split your dog rib cage either. Don’t have them on a long tether either.
Fabric crates are neither use nor ornament. We thought they were ok and thought the walking harness was that we used too, till we saw this video

i did say i doubted there were many tested ( clearly there have been some testing done )
we never ever travelled with our dog on any of seats or cage. He was always on the floor in a quality harness and strop to metal fixing into a seat belt clip.

 

[gus-lopez]

My husband is worried about safety to the front passenger.

the dog goes in the front & passenger in the back. Dog harness clipped to the seat belt if on the seat.If on the floor I have an additional seat belt anchorage specifically for the dog on the floor.just clip him to that.

 

[DBK]

Was also thinking similar but having experienced her running full tilt against 8m lead to get at pheasant or squirrel or cat have somewhat reduced concerns.

Sorry to be blunt but if you have an accident at even a low speed the force on the dog's neck will be many times what it experiences in the example you quote.

Someone wearing a seat belt, like a dog in a secured harness, might experience 20g deceleration in a 30 mph accident. What that means is a 20Kg dog will experience a 400Kg force, which is getting on for half a ton. A dog's neck won't take that.

 

[Ralph-n-Bev]

Gosh that’s awful…feel quite sick at the thought of it…but very important video. Ralph-n-Bev, which harness have you got?

I know, it’s not very nice watching is it. I hope lots of dog owners watch it.
(A collar on a lead would hang your dog in a MH. A lead on a harness would catapult it into whatever and then whip it back into whatever. There should be no walk about length to the tether, as much as Fido likes to wander) Not all metal is strong enough to take the force. Unfortunately.
We saw this video and totally rethought our dogs travel positions and tethering.
We have a Kurgo crash tested harness
Like this one.

Kurgo Trufit Dog Car Harness ES ESTFH - Enhanced Strength

Crash-tested dog harness for the car ensures you and your dog's safety. Attaches to the dog seat belt or a zipline.

www.kurgo.com

If you read down there’s crash test vids and reports with these harnesses too.