COVID 19 on Hull-Rotterdam ferry

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On news now, 2 Workers on board the “Pride of Hull” ferry tested Positive for COVID 19!, They’re Undecided whether passengers will have to get off the ferry tonight! lorger aren't you going this way in a few weeks?
 
There are cases popping up everywhere! I'm glad we cancelled our ferry booking. :cool:
 
We are heading back the UK September as need a mot. Was looking at Rotterdam/Hull Amsterdam/Newcastle this has pretty much made my mind up going for the Chunnel is no contact.
 
On BBC Look North Late news last night, Levy, said it was the second confirmed this week after one was confirmed Tuesday?. P&O where said to be "considering Options".

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Looks like Holland is on the list now, will need to clarify with work regarding the transiting through a listed company.
 
Has anyone done the numbers on how the rise in cases is correlating with the death figures compared to the first wave? suavecarve perhaps

So many of the young think that its not much more than a cold for them and I wonder if the statistics will continue to support this view?
 
France, Holland, Turks and Cacos, where just 3 I saw on the News this last Hour. From I think 4am?
 
jongood said:
So many of the young think that its not much more than a cold for them
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That is the problem for us who are in at risk groups. The youngsters who WON`T mask up in public are potentially killing their Grandparents!. No good ME wearing a mask IF the Kids are coughing everywhere!.
 
jongood said:
Has anyone done the numbers on how the rise in cases is correlating with the death figures compared to the first wave? suavecarve perhaps

So many of the young think that its not much more than a cold for them and I wonder if the statistics will continue to support this view?
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The thing is the deaths lag several weeks/months behind the infections so you’re not going to see it until October/November.
This time it’s different as it is been spread by and amongst young people who won’t get so ill.
The over 50s they come into contact with - parents, grandparents, teachers and their spouses and parents will be the ones most at risk but again it will take time to see.
The age profile of infections has definitely changed - you can see daily and seven day graphs on travelling tabby.

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jongood said:
Has anyone done the numbers on how the rise in cases is correlating with the death figures compared to the first wave? suavecarve perhaps

So many of the young think that its not much more than a cold for them and I wonder if the statistics will continue to support this view?
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even the BBC are starting to understand this now. Won't be long before others wake up. The highest infected area, Blackburn, Hospital admissions? down down and down again. So all the "oh god the infection rate is climbing brigade" are not matching the yes it is but the hospital admissions continue to fall even in really high case areas.
There is something strange going on here. Something real strange.

currently there are just 943 people in hospital related to the virus. Better open up those Nightingale beds just in case. the death rates for the last week in July show 5x more people died from the common flu than CV19.

not making judgement here, just reporting, nothing more nothing less. Sharing the info.

Meanwhile in New Zealand, the talk is of "Quarantine camps" places where whole families are sent if they test positive, by god. what is going on. No doubt it will have armed guards.


www.bbc.co.uk

Fewer hospital patients in Covid-19 hotspots

Hospital admissions are not rising despite increases in coronavirus cases, according to NHS England data.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
Grianan said:
The thing is the deaths lag several weeks/months behind the infections so you’re not going to see it until October/November.
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I realise there is a lag but the young people have been 'socialising' for quite a while with lots of reports of illegal raves and nightclubs and the testing has stepped up in most places.

Grianan said:
This time it’s different as it is been spread by and amongst young people who won’t get so ill.
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This is certainly a widely held belief but is it a fact?
 
jongood said:
I realise there is a lag but the young people have been 'socialising' for quite a while with lots of reports of illegal raves and nightclubs and the testing has stepped up in most places.



This is certainly a widely held belief but is it a fact?
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"Fact", Is surely Immaterial,? The Young believe it to be no more than a bad cold so take no steps to prevent infecting the older generations and those in greater risk!.
 
Grianan said:
The thing is the deaths lag several weeks/months behind the infections so you’re not going to see it until October/November.
This time it’s different as it is been spread by and amongst young people who won’t get so ill.
The over 50s they come into contact with - parents, grandparents, teachers and their spouses and parents will be the ones most at risk but again it will take time to see.
The age profile of infections has definitely changed - you can see daily and seven day graphs on travelling tabby.
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Look at the article above, screw in to it more. You will find that the age demographic was more widely associated between 19- 70 year old and many BAME community people too, yet, again, the hospital admissions do not reflect what your synopses is.

I don't have the answer, just saying that what everyone is predicting, being told is going to happen, simply isn't happening. I don't know why, neither do I suggest I do. I just know it's strange.

France, same again, huge increase in the disease, 8 deaths, just 8 deaths. Maybe it needs revisitingin a few weeks months as you say but the report from our highest infected areas from weeks ago doesn't back that theory up.
 
PeteH said:
"Fact", Is surely Immaterial,? The Young believe it to be no more than a bad cold so take no steps to prevent infecting the older generations and those in greater risk!.
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Is it a fact that the young have a lower rate of mortality to CV19?

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PeteH said:
"Fact", Is surely Immaterial,? The Young believe it to be no more than a bad cold so take no steps to prevent infecting the older generations and those in greater risk!.
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is that true? can I have your evidence for that then? or is it something happening just up your area.

I know loads of young people round here that are getting regular testing, not visiting granny, social distancing, washing hands etc etc etc.

I think our youngsters are behaving absolutely majestically for the majority, they are always an easy target.
 
jongood said:
Has anyone done the numbers on how the rise in cases is correlating with the death figures compared to the first wave? suavecarve perhaps

So many of the young think that its not much more than a cold for them and I wonder if the statistics will continue to support this view?
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Impossible to work out the figures until people start to die as there was basically no testing to compare them with and deaths were the only thing being counted near correctly at the time.
However my view is we were having between 100,000 and 250,000 infections per day in March and currently have 1,000. Presumably France were similar in March, but this was before any lockdown and us the public became educated.

It does also seem to me (a view) that in finding the equilibrium all countries have just gone a little too far, and european countries need to "reign it in" a bit, and the Q14 is one of those options
 
suavecarve said:
Impossible to work out the figures until people start to die as there was basically no testing to compare them with and deaths were the only thing being counted near correctly at the time.
However my view is we were having between 100,000 and 250,000 infections per day in March and currently have 1,000. Presumably France were similar in March, but this was before any lockdown and us the public became educated.

It does also seem to me (a view) that in finding the equilibrium all countries have just gone a little too far, and european countries need to "reign it in" a bit, and the Q14 is one of those options
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Don't forget that the majority of the fatalities would first become hospital admissions.......
 
PeteH said:
That is the problem for us who are in at risk groups. The youngsters who WON`T mask up in public are potentially killing their Grandparents!. No good ME wearing a mask IF the Kids are coughing everywhere!.
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I have never heard anyone with a sustained cough in public for weeks if not months. They must save it up for when they are at home.
 

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