Cirencester Park- Jeremy Vine Radio 2 (1 Viewer)

[MikenPauline]

Apparently he’s going to discuss the new charges today. Personally I think it’s sad that people will be charged to access this beautiful park.

 

[David and Sally]

It is private land and will cost a lot to maintain. Maybe the local council should contribute?

Having used it a few times to and from the CMC site I have to say it is a magnificent place. I like that snack bar there too.

 

[Spriddler]

Apparently he’s going to discuss the new charges today. Personally I think it’s sad that people will be charged to access this beautiful park.

If the upkeep is too costly maybe the owner's social conscience would prompt him to sell part of it for an affordable housing estate and a solar farm?

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[jwells]

Us locals won't like that!!

 

[AndyPK]

If the upkeep is too costly maybe the owner's social conscience would prompt him to sell part of it for an affordable housing estate and a solar farm?

The trouble is that the ‘affordable housing’ is quite expensive…… (https://thesteadingscirencester.co.uk/)

 

[pelican]

Apparently he’s going to discuss the new charges today. Personally I think it’s sad that people will be charged to access this beautiful park.

It needs ongoing care. £4 per visit is a little steep though.

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[Riverbankannie]

We happened to stay at the CAMC last Thursday and went into the Park on Friday, the day charges started. Access will still be free with a pass obtained from club reception. Local residents can buy an annual pass for £10. I don’t know how many tourists to Cirencester would go to the park as there is a lot of other places to see in the town.
It will probably impact the cafe.
There seem to be two main entrances to be manned. There were 2 staff in the one we used.
Maintenance costs have to be met somehow, NT grounds have a charge, local parks are paid for in council taxes.
I am assuming that there is no public right of way across the park.

 

[AndyPK]

There are no rights of way across the park, as you rightly assume Riverbankannie .
We’ve paid our £10 ‘deposit’ for our locals pass, but haven’t received it yet - distribution issues, apparently - which is why the electronic gates are still open….
The other cafe at the Old Kennels at the east side of the park does not require a pass to get to, but the Airstream cafe will……

 

[Jenben]

AndyPK I feel a bit sorry for the little airstream cafe as I suspect they will lose a lot of trade . We are unfortunately out of the GL postcode area to get a pass (which is fair enough) but we won’t bother buying an annual pass or pay £4 each to go in there .

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[Silver-Fox]

It is private land and will cost a lot to maintain. Maybe the local council should contribute?

Small change to the family that owns it

 

[David and Sally]

Small change to the family that owns it

Do you have inside info as to what it costs and if that is affordable to the family?

 

[Pausim]

NT grounds have a charge

NT charge for formal gardens and houses but not for most of the land they own, protect and manage. They own 780 miles of coastland and sometimes charge for parking.

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[Nanniemate]

Pembrey country park charges vehicle entrance but you can get annual pass for about £30.

 

[Silver-Fox]

Do you have inside info as to what it costs and if that is affordable to the family?

Do you know who owns it

 

[David and Sally]

Listened to the slot. Usual mouthy woman stridently talking over other contributors. Otherwise, didn’t learn much.

I can see the need for charging.

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[David and Sally]

Do you know who owns it

That is answering a question with a question. If you do then please offer your input. Friends of the family on the radio show were very supportive of the need to fund the upkeep of the park.

 

[Nanniemate]

People do not have to pay it. They can use other parks

 

[Silver-Fox]

That is answering a question with a question. If you do then please offer your input. Friends of the family on the radio show were very supportive of the need to fund the upkeep of the park.

Owned by the Bathurst family.

They own a lot of area around Ciren.
Not short of a couple of quid that’s for sure

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[David and Sally]

Owned by the Bathurst family.

They own a lot of area around Ciren.
Not short of a couple of quid that’s for sure

I knew that. And they sold some land for development which is now offshore. But this is the modern world and the upkeep, insurance, and other costs must be enormous.
Nothing is for free these days.

 

[Silver-Fox]

I knew that. And they sold some land for development which is now offshore. But this is the modern world and the upkeep, insurance, and other costs must be enormous.
Nothing is for free these days.

My post was merely suggesting they arnt short of a few bob.

Would be interesting the legal side of things given it has been a non charged access before.

I’m no legal eagle so wouldn’t know.
I don’t frequent the Park so have no axe to grind either way

 

[scotjimland]

Nothing is for free these days.

there are lots of free parks, national parks, forests and millions of acres of open land in Scotland you can roam, and wild camp (with a small tent) free of charge ..

If the knobs cant afford to run it, give it the people or NT to run ..

maybe one for the boycott thread

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[Spriddler]

The trouble is that the ‘affordable housing’ is quite expensive…… (https://thesteadingscirencester.co.uk/)

I know. I was using the term pejoratively.
In a recent development in my Downland village so few have been able to afford the terraced 2 bed 'affordable' ones at £335k that Croydon council (40 miles away) have rented some of them to house their unemployed homeless.
Talking to a local dog walker who's on one of the parish committees she said the new 3 and 4 bed neighbours (£525k to £625k) on the estate aren't welcoming towards some of the (allegedly unruly) new occupants.

 

[David and Sally]

there are lots of free parks, national parks, forests and millions of acres of open land in Scotland you can roam, and wild camp (with a small tent) free of charge ..

If the knobs cant afford to run it, give it the people or NT to run ..

maybe one for the boycott thread

OK, what I meant that nothing was free to maintain. All you mention are owned by someone, some by councils and maybe the state, but they are paid for by way of taxes or the owners. If the owners suddenly decide to charge then so be it.
I know in Scotland you have different laws re roaming.

We have a large free park in our town plus some other green areas free to use. But it's the ratepayer who pays for their upkeep not a private family or business. So, as a ratepayer I am paying for my free access.

 

[pelican]

there are lots of free parks, national parks, forests and millions of acres of open land in Scotland you can roam, and wild camp (with a small tent) free of charge ..

If the knobs cant afford to run it, give it the people or NT to run ..

maybe one for the boycott thread

And home rule for Scotland!

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[Mikey RV]

I would think everyone who stays on the camc site will walk into town via the park as it’s such a nice walk. I have done it and can’t get past the airstream without having a hot chocolate and sausage roll.

 

[AndyPK]

Mmmmmmmmm

 

[Kybod]

Cirencester CMC sites is one of my favourites. That is because of the Bathurst estate that it is located on.
I go there to walk in the opposite direction from the town.
Once beyond the polo club, I can find myself in beautiful countryside, with the occasional deer or more leaping across the tree avenue in front of me.
I usually make it as far as the Bell Inn at Sapperton before returning.
The thing is. If I hadn't found this gem of the English countryside about twelve years ago, when I first started with a motorhome, I'd have probably gone back to package hols to Greece etc.
The town itself is a nice place to spend a few days as is most of the Cotswolds area.
I only visit one or maybe twice a year but I feel the instigation of an access fee will probably backfire.

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[davidbaldam]

I’m on the Cirencester CMC site at the moment and didn’t have to pay to walk through the park.

 

[AndyPK]

No - the gates are open until the ‘distribution issues’ with the gate passes are sorted-out…… davidbaldam

 

[David and Sally]

I’m on the Cirencester CMC site at the moment and didn’t have to pay to walk through the park.

You won’t because the CMC will give you a pass.

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