Chinese Track 7” SatNav

[Dogsense]

Does anyone know what can cause the SatNav not to find the GPS and what can be done to sort it??
Thanks

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

If you mean the satellites,it's just patience. Or you can try a switch off and back on again.
I have 2 and sometimes one does not pickup for some time after the other. It varies.

 

[Al-Di]

have you tried a reset, tiny hole in the casing, need a pin or similar, push and hold for 5 sec,

 

[Dogsense]

If you mean the satellites,it's just patience. Or you can try a switch off and back on again.
I have 2 and sometimes one does not pickup for some time after the other. It varies.

Thanks. It’s take very long time.

 

[Dogsense]

have you tried a reset, tiny hole in the casing, need a pin or similar, push and hold for 5 sec,

Thanks. Will try

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[Jimbohorlicks]

If you need updated maps they are on the Nozatec facebook group

 

[Brains]

Make sure it's got an uninterrupted view to the entire southern horizon and then leave it so find the satellites.
It could take 20-30 mins

It's often caused by not using the GPS for ages and then firing it up in a new place.
It can take ages to sort itself out

 

[JockandRita]

You need make sure it is fully charged, especially if not used for a while. If out of the box, a mains charge is recommended, then placing next to window to gain the best possible signal from satellites.

The only time you should use the reset button on the rear, is when all else fails. There is a risk of it losing some data, or reverting back to default settings.

If you find the unit slow in general, this is usually due too much data for the size of RAM to cope with, so only load/update the maps you are going to be using, and deleting those of no use to you.................BUT ONLY AFTER MAKING A BACK UP FIRST.

Good luck with it.

Cheers

Jock.

 

[Dogsense]

Thanks.
I got the latest maps 2021Q2 from the Nozatec FB group, the internal memory only 4GB and nearly full with the original maps Here 2014, had update TomTom 2017 from the Supplier which been put on the 8GB SD card, I backed up it and then deleted the 2017 maps (included buildings, maps, poi, speed cam & phoneme) And add the 2021 Q2 maps etc, worked well when picked the satellites.
With maps of 17 countries only, that we will visit and transit during our next long tour, the 8GB SD nearly FULL (only 435MB), I copy/paste the all Primo file onto 16GB SD (now nearly half full), tried the SatNav with the two SD (8GB 16GB), take Very long time to find the satellites.

 

[Guigsy]

For GPS to work, any receiver needs to know the exact co-ordinates of all the satellites before it can do the maths to work out where you are on the globe. The record of all the orbits of all the GPS satellites is called the Almanac. The Almanac is continuously transmitted on the back of the GPS signal, but the data rate is really slow, so it takes several minutes to complete and loop all the way around. Therefore, if you 'cold start' a GPS receiver, it can take some time before it can get a lock because it has to wait until it has a complete copy of the Almanac. The data in the Almanac lasts a couple of weeks, so restarting the device can normally get a lock pretty quickly as it's saved data is still up to date. And while a device is on, it keeps the Almanac up to date.

Phones get around this by downloading the Almanac whenever they need it. It's actually a pretty tiny amount of data, so only takes a second. They can also use cell tower triangulation to get a rough position, which also gives them a head start on the maths. So a phone with a mobile connection can get a lock in seconds.

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[JockandRita]

Thanks.
I got the latest maps 2021Q2 from the Nozatec FB group, the internal memory only 4GB and nearly full with the original maps Here 2014, had update TomTom 2017 from the Supplier which been put on the 8GB SD card, I backed up it and then deleted the 2017 maps (included buildings, maps, poi, speed cam & phoneme) And add the 2021 Q2 maps etc, worked well when picked the satellites.
With maps of 17 countries only, that we will visit and transit during our next long tour, the 8GB SD nearly FULL (only 435MB), I copy/paste the all Primo file onto 16GB SD (now nearly half full), tried the SatNav with the two SD (8GB 16GB), take Very long time to find the satellites.

If only a 4Gb internal HD, thenvI am assuming it only has a 128 Mb of RAM. No wonder it is slow. If only 4Gb, your really only want the maps your are going to use ...now.
I recently updated someone's 8Gb unit for them (with 256Mb of RAM), and with Western Europe alone, the memory was almost full, with only 350Mb of free space left. I did try to discourage them from choosing countries they may not visit in the next few months.

I have a larger 9" Android unit, similar to the Xgody 9" unit, and unlike the older Nozatec units, it has never frozen or let me down.
I was gifted an Xgody 886, which is my spare, which again is a good reliable unit.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Slippymurphy]

This might seem a bit odd but I had a cheapy sat nav and it was a real pain finding satellites. Turned on/ off reset etc no joy
Quick google and one issue highlighted was that they don’t like being positioned near a rear view mirror....... who knew !!! Mines was just below at dash level
Moved it to the side window and hey presto sorted.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Thanks.
I got the latest maps 2021Q2 from the Nozatec FB group, the internal memory only 4GB and nearly full with the original maps Here 2014, had update TomTom 2017 from the Supplier which been put on the 8GB SD card, I backed up it and then deleted the 2017 maps (included buildings, maps, poi, speed cam & phoneme) And add the 2021 Q2 maps etc, worked well when picked the satellites.
With maps of 17 countries only, that we will visit and transit during our next long tour, the 8GB SD nearly FULL (only 435MB), I copy/paste the all Primo file onto 16GB SD (now nearly half full), tried the SatNav with the two SD (8GB 16GB), take Very long time to find the satellites.

You don't really need to have 17 countries on you have little remaining workable memory,just use 3 or 4 countries adjacent to the ones your in and add the others as you need to.

 

[Dogsense]

If only a 4Gb internal HD, thenvI am assuming it only has a 128 Mb of RAM. No wonder it is slow. If only 4Gb, your really only want the maps your are going to use ...now.
I recently updated someone's 8Gb unit for them (with 256Mb of RAM), and with Western Europe alone, the memory was almost full, with only 350Mb of free space left. I did try to discourage them from choosing countries they may not visit in the next few months.

I have a larger 9" Android unit, similar to the Xgody 9" unit, and unlike the older Nozatec units, it has never frozen or let me down.
I was gifted an Xgody 886, which is my spare, which again is a good reliable unit.

Cheers,

Jock.

How can I check check the size of my Ram?
The memory, I hope to be able to use 16GB SD card.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

The newer the sat Nav the higher the ram memory will be ,and the bigger SD card you can use but you can't use s 16 GB card in an 8 GB sat

you need to check the sticker on the back.this one is a 4 GB so won't work with an 8 GB card or higher

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[Dogsense]

The newer the sat Nov the higher the ram memory will be ,and the bigger SD card you can use but you can't use s 16 GB card in an 8 GB sat View attachment 560591you need to check the sticker on the back.this one is a 4 GB so won't work with an 8 GB card or higher

Mine I bought 2014, have internal 4GB (nearly full) memory with HERE maps, I used since 2018 8GB SD card with 2017 update TOMTOM maps, was working well but was time to update maps to HERE 2021 Q2. Do you thing that the problem of SatNav take very long time to connect to the satellite, relate to the size of SD card and how full it is?

 

[lunarman]

The 2021q2 update files contain a new file type with the extension .fds this is used to warn of sharp curves and other dangerous road conditions. This only works on later versions of IGO and are not required for most current Chinese satnavs. They take up a lot of space and don't need to be loaded.

 

[Dogsense]

The 2021q2 update files contain a new file type with the extension .fds this is used to warn of sharp curves and other dangerous road conditions. This only works on later versions of IGO and are not required for most current Chinese satnavs. They take up a lot of space and don't need to be loaded.

Thanks. Do you recommend to delete this .FDA’s files? How to find them?

 

[Dogsense]

The 2021q2 update files contain a new file type with the extension .fds this is used to warn of sharp curves and other dangerous road conditions. This only works on later versions of IGO and are not required for most current Chinese satnavs. They take up a lot of space and don't need to be loaded.

Thanks. Do you recommend to delete this .gds files? How/where to find them?

 

[Wabs]

I still love a map

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[Coolcats]

You need make sure it is fully charged, especially if not used for a while. If out of the box, a mains charge is recommended, then placing next to window to gain the best possible signal from satellites.

The only time you should use the reset button on the rear, is when all else fails. There is a risk of it losing some data, or reverting back to default settings.

If you find the unit slow in general, this is usually due too much data for the size of RAM to cope with, so only load/update the maps you are going to be using, and deleting those of no use to you.................BUT ONLY AFTER MAKING A BACK UP FIRST.

Good luck with it.

Cheers

Jock.

But that’s normally the point of a reset button everything reverts to day 1 settings so you can re-set everything

 

[Coolcats]

I still love a map

We use maps too

 

[JockandRita]

But that’s normally the point of a reset button everything reverts to day 1 settings so you can re-set everything

Not on these units, but occasionally you can lose everything, which can be very annoying if it wasn't intended, hence the recommendation that it should only be used when other efforts have failed. I have used the reset button on the older units several times, when they have frozen or gone blank, (not needed to use it so far on later units). and been lucky enough to have retained all my settings, maps, and POIs.............but I knew the risk I was taking, as I had a complete back up.
In settings, there is an manual option to revert back to factory settings.

The FUN expert on these units is our very own lunarman John, who contributed in a post earlier, and it was he I always went to first, if I had problems. There are a couple of helpful members of the Admin staff, on that Nozatec Facebook Group too.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Coolcats]

Not on these units, but occasionally you can lose everything, which can be very annoying if it wasn't intended, hence the recommendation that it should only be used when other efforts have failed. I have used the reset button on the older units several times, when they have frozen or gone blank, (not needed to use it so far on later units). and been lucky enough to have retained all my settings, maps, and POIs.............but I knew the risk I was taking, as I had a complete back up.
In settings, there is an manual option to revert back to factory settings.

The FUN expert on these units is our very own lunarman John, who contributed in a post earlier, and it was he I always went to first, if I had problems. There are a couple of helpful members of the Admin staff, on that Nozatec Facebook Group too.

Cheers,

Jock.

Resetting any device back to factory settings means any miss setup or code that has been corrupted is wiped and if that includes the customers data so be it. It’s a standard IT procedure.

There are manufacturers who say call their help desk before performing such a reset but it is a valid procedure and if you have a knowledgeable friend of course speak with them. But that reset button is always available even if it’s the nuclear option

 

[Dogsense]

Not on these units, but occasionally you can lose everything, which can be very annoying if it wasn't intended, hence the recommendation that it should only be used when other efforts have failed. I have used the reset button on the older units several times, when they have frozen or gone blank, (not needed to use it so far on later units). and been lucky enough to have retained all my settings, maps, and POIs.............but I knew the risk I was taking, as I had a complete back up.
In settings, there is an manual option to revert back to factory settings.

The FUN expert on these units is our very own lunarman John, who contributed in a post earlier, and it was he I always went to first, if I had problems. There are a couple of helpful members of the Admin staff, on that Nozatec Facebook Group too.

Cheers,

Jock.

I am waiting for lunarman John reply.

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[Ditcha]

We run Igo nextgen on a Samsung galaxy tab and on a tesco hudl 2 both running android, run main program on internal memory and load all the maps to sd card, works really well and we use the Bluetooth to the head unit for announcements etc.

We use a radio app also on the tablets so we can listen to any radio station anywhere we want and the radio cuts out when satnav makes announcements over the Bluetooth connection to the headunit.

You do use data this way but very little and you get up to date events on you satnav.

 

[JockandRita]

I still love a map

We use maps too

We carry maps too, ie, a "belt & braces" job.

Resetting any device back to factory settings means any miss setup or code that has been corrupted is wiped and if that includes the customers data so be it. It’s a standard IT procedure.

There are manufacturers who say call their help desk before performing such a reset but it is a valid procedure and if you have a knowledgeable friend of course speak with them. But that reset button is always available even if it’s the nuclear option

Yes yes yes, I appreciate everything you say, but that is not my experience on these older Nozatec Sat Nav units, and the advice from those more knowledgeable on them than myself, it to avoid using the reset button where possible, as you inadvertently run the risk of losing everything, where it wasn't intended.

We run Igo nextgen on a Samsung galaxy tab and on a tesco hudl 2 both running android, run main program on internal memory and load all the maps to sd card, works really well and we use the Bluetooth to the head unit for announcements etc.

We use a radio app also on the tables so we can listen to any radio station anywhere we want and the radio cuts out when satnav makes announcements over the Bluetooth connection to the headunit.

You do use data this way but very little and you get up to date events on you satnav.

Dave, my only experience with Bluetooth connections was on the older 7" Nozatec units, and it was abysmal, and again, the advice was not to bother with it.
Your set up sounds excellent, (no pun intended ). I'd be keen to know after your jolly down to Spain, how you get on with the iGo Nextgen software, compared to the iGo Primo we've both been using so far.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Ditcha]

We carry maps too, ie, a "belt & braces" job.


Yes yes yes, I appreciate everything you say, but that is not my experience on these older Nozatec Sat Nav units, and the advice from those more knowledgeable on them than myself, it to avoid using the reset button where possible, as you inadvertently run the risk of losing everything, where it wasn't intended.



Dave, my only experience with Bluetooth connections was on the older 7" Nozatec units, and it was abysmal, and again, the advice was not to bother with it.
Your set up sounds excellent, (no pun intended ). I'd be keen to know after your jolly down to Spain, how you get on with the iGo Nextgen software, compared to the iGo Primo we've both been using so far.

Cheers,

Jock.

If I don't make it back Jock you'll know I had problems

I think the Bluetooth works better on the old hudl 2 (android 5.1) than the newer galaxy tab (android 11) also its better because both the radio and satnav announcements are coming from the same device ie the tablet and not a mixture of headunit (radio) and tablet (satnav) announcements if you get my drift.

Early days but will let you know my findings and how it goes

 

[Dogsense]

The 2021q2 update files contain a new file type with the extension .fds this is used to warn of sharp curves and other dangerous road conditions. This only works on later versions of IGO and are not required for most current Chinese satnavs. They take up a lot of space and don't need to be loaded.

Thank You Very Much.
I deleted the .fds files and it’s Saved ~1.7GB of the map files that I download from 2021 Q2 HERE Maps.

 

[lunarman]

Thanks. Do you recommend to delete this .gds files? How/where to find them

I have only seen the .FDS file in the latest 2021q2 update so if you have not loaded that update then you should have nothing to delete. The .fds will reside in the primo/contents/map folder along with the rest of the files for each country. When you update to 2021q2 donot copy the country .fds files to the satnav.

The files are quite large 215mb for the UK almost double the map storge requirement and will soon exhaust the 8gb on board storage fo the sat nav. I always use a 16gb SD card now and change the navi path unit to point to the sd card. You need to have the whole of the Primo folder copied from the sat nav to the SD card, then update then maps on the card.

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