Chic C-line 4.8 2014 squeaky noises from pull down bed (1 Viewer)

Jan 24, 2020
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New Carthago owner here, so be kind to me pls...:)

So, after a 1996 Hymer B544, then a 2012 Dethleffs Globe4 now I decided to step up, and bought a 2014 Chic C-line 4.8 in Italy (I'm from Hungary).

Although the car is as sturdy as you can expect from a Carthago, the drop down bed gives me headache...

I'm overly sensitive to noises, so these squeaky, quirky noises coming above my head will drive me crazy, for sure.

Anyone here who could help me where to look, what to grease, what to align ot tighten?

Thanks!

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Welcome to MHFun.

Regarding the overbed bed:
1) make sure the shoot-bolts either side of the bed fully extend into the plastic catch
2) the control wire attached to the shoot-bolts should be slightly slack when in the locked position
3) the plastic catch can get worn. If so, it can be reversed on it's mounting.

I know of one owner who bought a couple of small inflatable bags and inflated them either side between bed and bodywork. This prevents any sideways movement. I'm thinking of trying this myself as I very rarely need to use the overhead bed.
 
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Jan 24, 2020
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Thanks, I'll take a closer look on the mentioned parts!

The bag method would be slightly inconvenient, I'v got two kids to sleep there.

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Minxy

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We had the same issue but on the passenger side of the bed, hubby put some rubber sleeve on the 'pins' and adjusted the catches, no rattle now.

Also:
 
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We had the same issue but on the passenger side of the bed, hubby put some rubber sleeve on the 'pins' and adjusted the catches, no rattle now.

Also:
Thanks, I'll check that thread too!
 
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It would appear that the latching mechanism has been revised for the later model Carthagos, as indicated by the link provided by Minxy.

My description of the latching mechanism is based on a 2010 C-line.

Another source of cab squeaks is where the Fiat dashboard joins with the plastic Carthago extension to the windscreen. I regularly treat this interface (every year) with a liberal dose of silicone spray.

I've also given the pivot points on the dropdown bed a dose of silicone spray, although I doubt this is a major cause of squeaks.

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It would appear that the latching mechanism has been revised for the later model Carthagos, as indicated by the link provided by Minxy.

My description of the latching mechanism is based on a 2010 C-line.

Another source of cab squeaks is where the Fiat dashboard joins with the plastic Carthago extension to the windscreen. I regularly treat this interface (every year) with a liberal dose of silicone spray.

I've also given the pivot points on the dropdown bed a dose of silicone spray, although I doubt this is a major cause of squeaks.
Good point, thanks. How you do this, simply spray it in with a long nozzle?

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One other thing that squeaks on ours isn't inside but outside. Its the A-pillar bodywork trim on the nearside which rubs on the side window about 6" up from the bottom of it, I solved it shortly after we were on our first holiday with a small cable tie pushed in to keep them slightly apart ... one day I might actually fix it properly but for now I just push the cable tie in if it tries to make a bid for freedom! :giggle:

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One other thing that squeaks on ours isn't inside but outside. Its the A-pillar bodywork trim on the nearside which rubs on the side window about 6" up from the bottom of it, I solved it shortly after we were on our first holiday with a small cable tie pushed in to keep them slightly apart ... one day I might actually fix it properly but for now I just push the cable tie in if it tries to make a bid for freedom! :giggle:

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I experienced the same noise that became a deafening rattle. I had to remove the exterior trim and replace the top plastic locator and adjust the aluminium sleeves. Problem solved.
 

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Minxy

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I experienced the same noise that became a deafening rattle. I had to remove the exterior trim and replace the top plastic locator and adjust the aluminium sleeves. Problem solved.
Errrrr .... I think I'll stick with my cable tie, much easier! :giggle:
 

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Welcome!

If you think the noise is coming from the bed, I'd rattle it about a bit to see if I could replicate the sound.
If you can make the noise by moving it in one direction or another it will, at least, confirm that it's coming from the bed and it may give a clue as to what kind of movement you need to stop.

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Welcome!

If you think the noise is coming from the bed, I'd rattle it about a bit to see if I could replicate the sound.
If you can make the noise by moving it in one direction or another it will, at least, confirm that it's coming from the bed and it may give a clue as to what kind of movement you need to stop.
Too much hanky-panky maybe? :blusher:
 
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Welcome!

If you think the noise is coming from the bed, I'd rattle it about a bit to see if I could replicate the sound.
If you can make the noise by moving it in one direction or another it will, at least, confirm that it's coming from the bed and it may give a clue as to what kind of movement you need to stop.
Wagoneer suggested to use inflatable bags, but to do this every morning this sounds somewhat inconvenient. We aren’t the “stay in camping fir two weeks” type, we like to be on the road, like following the Giro d’Italia stage by stage for two weeks.
 

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Too much hanky-panky maybe? :blusher:
I think the problem is while the bed is up (and travelling) so not much chance of 'activity upstairs' under those conditions.
And who ever said you can have too much of that, anyway?

If the noise comes when the bed moves from one position to another, you know where to chock it. Better still, look for any slack in the mechanism that allows such movement.

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Wagoneer suggested to use inflatable bags, but to do this every morning this sounds somewhat inconvenient. We aren’t the “stay in camping fir two weeks” type, we like to be on the road, like following the Giro d’Italia stage by stage for two weeks.
We use a pair of inflatable wedge bags to help reduce lateral movement/knocks/squeaks etc on our overcab bed assembly. They can both be inserted and pumped in under a minute. Probably the quickest method we have found to eliminate the irritating noises whilst driving
 

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We use a pair of inflatable wedge bags to help reduce lateral movement/knocks/squeaks etc on our overcab bed assembly. They can both be inserted and pumped in under a minute. Probably the quickest method we have found to eliminate the irritating noises whilst driving
Wouldn't stuffing a couple of cushions up do the same job?
 
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Wouldn't stuffing a couple of cushions up do the same job?
There's not that much room at the sides to be fair, and the little wedge bags are only 6" x 5" (flat) plus the puffer bulb obviously. We've used them elsewhere in the van too when they're not silencing the squeaky bed noises ;)

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There's not that much room at the sides to be fair, and the little wedge bags are only 6" x 5" (flat) plus the puffer bulb obviously. We've used them elsewhere in the van too when they're not silencing the squeaky bed noises ;)
:oops:
 

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I have a rattle more of a knocking on the LHD side of the bed on our Hymer. For two years I thought it was coming from down below, finaly found out it was the bed. When it rattles if you push up hard while driving it stops. Tightened up all the bolts made it a bit quieter then it got noisy again in Spain last year, sprayed all the bolts and pivots with silicone, bliss silence. Then we went down a rough track & now it's the worst it's ever been, driving me flipping nuts, always forget to have a look at it before we go away. It's the only thing in the van that rattles & really gets on my nerves.
 

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