Rally Chat CCC THS (1 Viewer)

[Bailey 15]

Hi
Does anyone know when the caravan and camping club THS - Temporary Holiday Sites- , start taking bookings from emails in January ?
Thank you

 

[Langtoftlad]

Most of them don't appear to 'need' booking
Get the Out & About app for listing & contact information.

 

[MichaelT]

Not many need booking and if it does its up to individual DA's when and how you book. Download the out and about app and also join the All DA Facebook pages.

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[Bailey 15]

Thanks
Done all that for years but it always says
‘Advanced Booking Essential’

 

[Bluemooner]

Think a lot are taking bookings now

 

[Lenny HB]

Normally you just turn up, they asked bookings during the Covid years.

Best to use the app to find them but be aware some get left on from the previous year so check the dates. We found out the hard way.

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[Jo662]

We use a lot of THS,mostly,in Norfolk, to take the grandchildren away .
Last year a lot of Norfolk THS were cancelled,and this year there is hardly any
listed at all In Norfolk.
Hopefully they will add some as the year goes on,or I may as well cancel my membership.

 

[Outdoors Dad]

I used a lot of them last year and never booked. It's a first come first served type thing. I have contacted the organisers prior to setting off to make sure there's spaces available. Check out the 'out and about' section on your CCC app for more details of individual meets etc.

 

[MichaelT]

Thanks
Done all that for years but it always says
‘Advanced Booking Essential’



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Porth is always popular so need to book with all da

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[tonka]

We use a lot of THS,mostly,in Norfolk, to take the grandchildren away .
Last year a lot of Norfolk THS were cancelled,and this year there is hardly any
listed at all In Norfolk.
Hopefully they will add some as the year goes on,or I may as well cancel my membership.

Somewhere ... There is a thread on this subject, it's something to do with the local councils and asking for some sort of environmental certificate.. Can't recall the exact details but it seems to effect your area more than others, hence all the cancellations.

 

[Jo662]

You are spot on. When we were at Peel School THS in Wells next the sea last year,one of the
Wardens/Marshalls told me that,and he said hopefully would be better next year(2024)
Obviously not going to be.

 

[MichaelT]

We use a lot of THS,mostly,in Norfolk, to take the grandchildren away .
Last year a lot of Norfolk THS were cancelled,and this year there is hardly any
listed at all In Norfolk.
Hopefully they will add some as the year goes on,or I may as well cancel my membership.

They will be there soon once North Norfolk Council decide what mitigation payment they want where sites are in the area of special scientific interest, that's why they were cancelled last yearvas Council said they wanted payment but didn't know how much so C&CC pulled all meets. Council weren't bothered till business and MP got involved as they lost a lot of income but C&CC say they have nearly agreed the amount and mechanism of how to collect.

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[Jo662]

They will be there soon once North Norfolk Council decide what mitigation payment they want where sites are in the area of special scientific interest, that's why they were cancelled last yearvas Council said they wanted payment but didn't know how much so C&CC pulled all meets. Council weren't bothered till business and MP got involved as they lost a lot of income but C&CC say they have nearly agreed the amount and mechanism of how to collect.

So Norfolk council is being run like the mayor runs Londons ULEZ.
As long as you pay a fee f#@k the environment

 

[MichaelT]

So Norfolk council is being run like the mayor runs Londons ULEZ.
As long as you pay a fee f#@k the environment

Not quite, other councils already do it and its down to environment England rules.

 

[TheBig1]

Ours went live for booking January 1st and they are flying in

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[Jo662]

Not quite, other councils already do it and its down to environment England rules.

Well still looks the same to me, pay and everything is ok

 

[MichaelT]

Well still looks the same to me, pay and everything is ok

Not an expert on it but just got the gist as I'm a regional treasurer but here's the Council blurb I think. https://www.north-norfolk.gov.uk/ta...collectively set,dwelling and is index linked.

 

[Jo662]

Not an expert on it but just got the gist as I'm a regional treasurer but here's the Council blurb I think. https://www.north-norfolk.gov.uk/tasks/development-management/habitat-mitigation-recreational-impacts/#:~:text=The tariff is collectively set,dwelling and is index linked.

That’s all well and good,and after a quick read through it tells you who they are claiming payment off, and how to pay,but not what they are going to do with the monies raised to
help the environment.

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[MichaelT]

That’s all well and good,and after a quick read through it tells you who they are claiming payment off, and how to pay,but not what they are going to do with the monies raised to
help the environment.

There's probably more if you search, also try natural England as they set the rules.

 

[TheBig1]

We use a lot of THS,mostly,in Norfolk, to take the grandchildren away .
Last year a lot of Norfolk THS were cancelled,and this year there is hardly any
listed at all In Norfolk.
Hopefully they will add some as the year goes on,or I may as well cancel my membership.

No sign of a solution for Norfolk this year. Government have told councils to block any rally or THS adjacent to a SSSI or close to a protected water source. We have the same issue from the New Forest (and Solent basin) all across Dorset (Poole harbour)

The councils have been told it can be done after an environmental survey for each site and payment per unit night to the council to offset any environmental issues. Norfolk for instance is in big trouble because of all the rivers and broads. Problem is the councils don't know how much to charge and who will collect the charge or even how it must be used. One of our first THS sites blocked was in New Milton at a school. The income from the 28 days we were there each year made a lot of money for the school to maintain the site. The council told us ALL waste water had to be tankered away and treated with documented evidence. The site is on mains drainage so ridiculous. Plus they wanted somewhere around £8 per night per unit payable up front for the entire 28 days at maximum usage. So 100+ pitches at £8 per night times 28. So I make that £22400 to the council

That is what ALL the clubs are up against. Despite holding exemption certificates the clubs are being blocked from holding rallies in many areas. I am the sites officer locally and a member of the region council. Believe me, the clubs are taking this very seriously and have spent a king's ransom on lawyers.

On the other side we have local businesses and parish councils desperate to get us back as those rallies throughout the summer make a huge difference in takings at local shops, cafes and a multitude of other businesses. Some have already closed down due to the drop in turnover

 

[Jo662]

The council told us ALL waste water had to be tankered away and treated with documented evidence. The site is on mains drainage so ridiculous. Plus they wanted somewhere around £8 per night per unit payable up front for the entire 28 days at maximum usage. So 100+ pitches at £8 per night times 28. So I make that £22400 to the council.

So that bares up my point, as long as we pay sod the environment’just like Khans ULEZ

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[TheBig1]

So that bares up my point, as long as we pay sod the environment’just like Khans ULEZ

Exactly the point I raised at director level at HQ. We have a very long email and letter trail with the local councils. None of them want to deal with the issue as they don't know what to charge or who can spend it on what. They are angry with Natural England and they just point to the legislation that the government have foisted on them to enhance green credentials. We can even prove that we have a proven track record going back decades with our members volunteering to work on environmental projects. As a matter of respect, we always leave a site in better condition than when we arrived.

The BS that keeps getting trotted out is Nitrate pollution from grey water runoff. Really? how about all the cows and horses using the land as a toilet 24/7?

 

[starquake]

Exactly the point I raised at director level at HQ. We have a very long email and letter trail with the local councils. None of them want to deal with the issue as they don't know what to charge or who can spend it on what. They are angry with Natural England and they just point to the legislation that the government have foisted on them to enhance green credentials. We can even prove that we have a proven track record going back decades with our members volunteering to work on environmental projects. As a matter of respect, we always leave a site in better condition than when we arrived.

The BS that keeps getting trotted out is Nitrate pollution from grey water runoff. Really? how about all the cows and horses using the land as a toilet 24/7?

I just can't see how it applies when you are using a site with mains drainage. Yes, makes sense for a campsite like at a music festival where it's all not on mains, but for a school site with mains water and drainage, it's massively massively overstating their position.

A good "club" organisation would be lobbying on this point alone along with the local water board to point these points out.

 

[namwaldog]

Thanks
Done all that for years but it always says
‘Advanced Booking Essential’

This usually indicates that that particular THS is very popular and fills up fast.
Perhaps try ringing the telephone number listed or send a text?

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[Richard n Ann]

Didn't renew my membership because of the THS cancellations

 

[Red Sonja]

Thanks
Done all that for years but it always says
‘Advanced Booking Essential’



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Porth is on a commercial site and DA meets have a certain amount of spaces. Hence booking in advance. Porth is a brilliant spot to stay.

 

[LesW]

Didn't renew my membership because of the THS cancellations

... but there are dozens available all over the country...

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[Richard n Ann]

... but there are dozens available all over the country...

There haven't been any in Skegness for the last couple of years, the school academy one was fantastic. The last straw was when I was selecting alternatives last year and they were either also cancelled or booked up.. Oh we did manage 1 night at one near York on the motorcycles (my avatar photo)

 

[L' Hobo]

I think, last year, the bird disease took a toll on a number of THS's and forced closures.

 

[LesW]

There haven't been any in Skegness for the last couple of years

There are other places to go though, we often tour from one THS to another THS.

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