carbon monoxide detectors

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  1. Wildbill

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    I know I beat this drum a lot
    But while having a fantastic weekend way with the van I met a lovely couple with a motorhome
    while chatting to them they were saying how unwell they had been feeling while in the van time to ask a few questions. mmmm do you use your gas heating
    yes is there plenty of ventilation blank expression mind if I have a look

    carbon monoxide detector no:Eeek: any way to cut a long story short I put one of my detectors in the van they cam to mine for a wet
    left there van closed up with detector on went back after fifteen min detector gowing off
    they had a lucky escape
    they are now spending the night on oxygen therapy
    I have given them a monoxide detector out of my van and told them if they want to kill there shelf go a head but don't kill there lovely two children
    if you don't have one :swear: get one please :Angry:
    bill
     
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    Best advice ever mate. Well done
    The silent killer will get them if they do not get a detector
    Cheers bill
     
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    A Carbon Monoxide Detector is absolutely essential wherever gas powered appliances are in use. Good advice from you Bill, well done.

    Brisey.
     
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  4. dave newell lvs

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    Well done Bill but I have to say the CO is more likely to be coming from the fridge than the heating.

    D.
     
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    It must be ignorance on the part of people. No matter how much publicity there is people still do not understand about the silent killer. They spend thousands on a motorhome and the all singing and dancing accessories but miss out on a few pounds for the life saving equipment.
    Well spotted Bill. :thumb:
     
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    First thing that I put in the van when I got it
     
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    I have just read that 30% of imported CO2 detectors dont work.

    So its also not worth fitting a cheap unit.

    But the University of Gent has just said most work too late.
    By the time they go off you are already unable to move.

    So what models do the Funsters fit.

    Anybody have any test reports?

    Mel
     
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    Ours in the van is a First Alert branded one. The one in the house is a Kidde (we had a similar one in our other van).

    Those are both reputable brands manufacturing to appropriate British Standards.

    They are also inexpensive these days compared to only a few years ago so not worth going for cheaper ones where safety is concerned.
     
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    Me as well, the next was a smoke detector, small change when you consider the investment made in a MH, both should be fitted as standard and part of MOT IMHO.
     
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  13. dave newell lvs

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    Its CO carbon monoxide, not CO2 carbon dioxide.

    D.
     
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    Dave is quite right, buying the wrong detector could be catastrophic but unlikely.
     
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    They ought to be compulsory along with a fire extinguisher. I know habitation is not part of the MOT, but at least the habitation checks ought to insist on one, and report on the status of the one fitted. A few months after buying my van the CO alarm kept going off and despite closing off the gas etc, I could not find the cause. Then I heard the leisure battery bubbling whilst on charge - that was knackered and giving off hydrogen (just as dangerous) and the CO monitor was picking it up. So it has a dual purpose.
     
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    The battery sounds like it was being overcharged, not a battery problem as such but a voltage control problem more likely.
     
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    Agreed, these are huge safety issues, particularly the fire extinguisher as that has implications for people close by.

    Again agreed, I think that the receipt for the original purchase should have to be kept for inspection as proof of age.
     
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    My suggestion

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KIDDE-8LL...Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item3a868683f6


    I bought these for all the family last year, they have a permanent digital display with current CO always zero, and display options for max and min memory, that can be interesting / scary, I think the set alarm point is 23 (ppm I think) We have one in our conservatory with a log burner and quite regularly have alarms! I do not have the rules to hand now but think the 23 alarm point is very safe, I think over 70 you might show symptoms, but it needs to be 150 + to be really harmful

    All will depend on body size, length of exposure etc

    On our max min we have never gone over 30, but I don't mind the dog getting us out of bed to tell us the alarm is going off, in all cases relighting the log burner solves our problem as the chimney (external) cools the fumes are not drawn out so well, typical alarm time 03:00, bad time to be caught when fast asleep

    I know MH's will not have log burners, but they do have more sources of CO in a much smaller space

    Get out and buy one if you don't have one already

    Thanks Bill for the excellent post and timely reminder
     
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  20. Roryboys Dad

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    We have 2013 model Motorhome and there was no carbon monoxide detector fitted when we bought it.

    Nor was a smoke alarm or fire extinguisher fitted.

    Why not?

    Aren't manufacturers aware that without these devices fitted inside a Motorhome it can be a lethal place to be?

    I believe they should a legal requirement and, despite there being a small financial cost, Manufactures should be compelled by law to fit them at point of initial sale or be legally responsible for any 'problems' at a later date.

    I have fitted all three to my MH as a safety measure and would encourage others to use common sense and consider fitting them to protect themselves and their family.

    :france::france::france:
     
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