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[Gaston aires]

Don't rely on them; the old ones use locks that are easy to pick.

Jesus ! How easy. I guess nothing will deter a determined Pro tea leaf, but a chancer would be put off.
Phil

 

[Yorick]

Jesus ! How easy. I guess nothing will deter a determined Pro tea leaf, but a chancer would be put off.
Phil

Put a tripwire and detonation device

 

[Hellski]

Gutted for you, please keep us all posted.

 

[MattR]

Jesus ! How easy. I guess nothing will deter a determined Pro tea leaf, but a chancer would be put off.
Phil

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the are techniques to pick these locks which don't involve this tool; you would be disappointed to know how easy they are to pick. I am about to junk my crook locks and bike locks using this type of lock - you won't find many items sold with them in shops now because they are so easy to pick.

 

[MC 55 FUN]

Thieving Bastards, why bother working for a living ? Just thieve.
I use an old fashioned "Crooklock" on mine.
How do these Bastards do it ?
Phil

No doubt professionally fitted alarms / immobilisers / etc are best for prevention & deterrence of theft & of course a decent tracker can assist in locating the vehicle once it's gone.

As I've stated on here before simply pulling the OBD port fuse & physically moving the OBD port can be a very effective free D.I.Y. method of preventing the vehicle being started by unauthorised access to the OBD port, as it takes lot's of time to overcome & one thing these thieving scumbags generally don't have is the time.

We use the above methodology & Diskloks & clutch locks on our cars & the MH.

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[Jackspeak]

Sorry to hear of your demise, good luck in getting it back!

 

[RowleyBirkinQC]

I'm sorry to hear these b'stards have swiped your van, you must be gutted. There seem to be no consequences for such thieving scum these days even if caught, therefore no deterrent.

If the van has been reported stolen and the tracker has activated, should the police not be on top of this already? Not having had a tracker, I don't know the operational parameters, but presumably it should help the law track down the vehicle location? Unless the vehicle is subsequently hidden in some manner of cloaking device or the tracker is discovered and disabled of course.

Do any trackers allow the vehicle owner to track the vehicle directly, in addition to the tracker company/police etc?

 

[Gaston aires]

Put a tripwire and detonation device

Tempting but makes too much mess of your van
Phil

 

[Yorick]

Tempting but makes too much mess of your van
Phil

 

[hilldweller]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the are techniques to pick these locks which don't involve this tool

I assume you mean using a Biro. I wondered about this so tried it, yes, just as easy as using a key.

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[MC 55 FUN]

Tempting but makes too much mess of your van
Phil

What does ?

 

[MattR]

I assume you mean using a Biro. I wondered about this so tried it, yes, just as easy as using a key.

The very same. Maybe appropriate to share this just in case peeps think that their expensive E-bikes etc. are safe with D-Locks with cylinder locks or their vehicles are safe using a cyclinder lock crook-lock ...

 

[Robert Clark]

The very same. Maybe appropriate to share this just in case peeps think that their expensive E-bikes etc. are safe with D-Locks with cylinder locks or their vehicles are safe using a cyclinder lock crook-lock ...

Does this problem apply to all locks or just the cheaper, non rated ones?

 

[eddie]

LOL did you ring the right place? all of us here busy at VB Central no answer phones

Apologies and grovel @Welsh girl Apparently we do and it wasn't turned off

 

[MattR]

Does this problem apply to all locks or just the cheaper, non rated ones?

I believe that it is all cylinder type locks - like this:

The video posted above is 9 years old - part of the reason why so many people were complaining that even companies such as Kryptonite continued to use the locks that were very expensive and promised high security but could be picked in less than a minute.

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[MattR]

But, unfortunately, even the "new, improved" locks can be picked - if you have the right equipment:

 

[hilldweller]

The very same. Maybe appropriate to share this just in case peeps

The method I saw and used was to heat the Biro so it created an indented key shape. I used it on my daughter's bicycle U-lock, she was horrified when she saw how easy it was.

 

[955matt]

PLEASE STOP POSTING HOW EASY IT IS TO PICK LOCKS WITH A VIDEO AS WELL.

 

[rich g]

Sorry to hear you vans been nicked,i hope you get it back soon all in good order

 

[Chris]

Apologies and grovel @Welsh girl Apparently we do and it wasn't turned off

She probably just assumed you were all on holiday

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[Yorick]

PLEASE STOP POSTING HOW EASY IT IS TO PICK LOCKS WITH A VIDEO AS WELL.

Why? Surely folk need to be informed ?

 

[MattR]

PLEASE STOP POSTING HOW EASY IT IS TO PICK LOCKS WITH A VIDEO AS WELL.

We can stop - but that won't stop scrotes seeing the videos on Youtube and if we stopped, how many people would be aware of the ease in which these locks are picked? Maybe some peeps might save some heart-break / pain / loss by buying a better lock that the ones that they are using now.

 

[parknride]

@RowleyBirkinQC we have smartrack tracker. Kids often log on to website (we give them password) and they can see exactly where we are when set of for long winter trips. If we are away from home in the car we can also check our van is still parked where it should be. Is this what you mean?

Won't stop them nicking it but may help recover it.

 

[TheBig1]

PLEASE STOP POSTING HOW EASY IT IS TO PICK LOCKS WITH A VIDEO AS WELL.

better to show people how weak the so called security devices are. The thieves know all about the weaknesses and more tricks than would cross an honest persons mind
much like the pathetically weak digital safes which can be opened in seconds

 

[MattR]

PLEASE STOP POSTING HOW EASY IT IS TO PICK LOCKS WITH A VIDEO AS WELL.

P.s. If you are inclined, type something like "Pick RV lock" into Youtube - the first two videos may show you how insecure an RV habitation door is. The others will show you how to pick a padlock, Yale lock, Fuel lock etc

My conclusion is: Very few locks are secure but the better the lock, the longer it will take to get in. Alarms and dogs may be a deterrent. Once inside, the thief will look for easily disposable valuables so anything of value - cash, jewelry etc. should be hidden. Technological devices should have remote tracking apps installed and vehicles installed with some form of reliable immobiliser and tracker.

All items of value should be photographed (ideally with receipts) and kept hidden. A copy of these images along with other valuable electronic documents should be kept off site - at a friend or family member's house in the event of fire / theft / flood in your own property. Make sure that the hard drive / usb drive is encrypted and that someone else knows the password just in case you are not the one that needs to access the insurance / financial / last will and testament details.

Make sure that the insurance covers the replacement costs, that the insurance is up to date and renewed on time and that you stop carrying 15 iPads, 20 iPods and 50 iPhones when sleeping in French Aires.

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[MattR]

better to show people how weak the so called security devices are. The thieves know all about the weaknesses and more tricks than would cross an honest persons mind
much like the pathetically weak digital safes which can be opened in seconds

Like this?

 

[eddie]

She probably just assumed you were all on holiday

Staying open this year!

 

[MattR]

better to show people how weak the so called security devices are. The thieves know all about the weaknesses and more tricks than would cross an honest persons mind
much like the pathetically weak digital safes which can be opened in seconds

Or this?

 

[MattR]

better to show people how weak the so called security devices are. The thieves know all about the weaknesses and more tricks than would cross an honest persons mind
much like the pathetically weak digital safes which can be opened in seconds

Or this for your hotel safe?

 

[eddie]

I broke in and "hotwired" a 1999 motorhome for MMM in under 20 seconds for an article!

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