Any Decorators out there

[Two of usI]

I recently painted a couple of rooms...... they are now not looking as good..... friend of mine recons I need to sugar soap then prime then U/ coat and top coat seems over the top.......... I have sugar soaped then top coated......... I don't know any better !!!!!!!!

 

[Kirsten]

Do you mean the paint on the walls or the woodwork?
If it is the woodwork we had a really bad finish 3 years ago with satin paint, don’t know if it was the batch or what was on skirting beforehand- but it bubbled up and was a real mess. Got the £ back from the paint manufacturers as I complained - bad reviews on net about that particular paint. Had sugar soaped and lightly sanded .
If the paint has dried bubbly you need to sand or air gun it off . One coat paint not so good IMO .
I now use something meant for external woodwork, no oil in it - stays a polar white forever so touching up it has not yellowed or faded. Also it is a nice Matt finish which I prefer. It looks like paint but is called wood stain on the tin ,will find name of it if you want, easy to apply on bare or sanded wood.

 

[MisterB]

How do you manage to get the ants to stay still while you decorate them?

 

[Wack]

How do you manage to get the ants to stay still while you decorate them?

He's obviously looking for ant decorators for a tiny house , I'd think they'll all be busy this time of year though.

 

[Podney]

Get a man in…..the ants aren’t up to it

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[Minxy]

Looks like he's got a bit mixed up he needs 'Ant the Decorator' not Ant and Dec!

 

[The Wino]

I'm a big fan of water based paints I use Johnstone a lot. The acrylic eggshell gives a good finish and quick to use as it dries so fast between coats.

 

[bobnick]

Did you sugar soap clean because the walls/woodwork had nicotine on them??

 

[Lenny HB]

Sugar soap is a waste of time, sand down properly, undercoat then two coats of a good quality oil based gloss, sanding between coats.
Steer clear of water based paints almost impossible to get a good finish without brush marks and they chip easily.

 

[Hirsch]

More information required before I offer any advice. If not employ a reputable decorator.

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[bobnick]

100s of years ago i was a trainee painter and decorator. We used to do a lot of pubs before the smoking ban.
One of my wonderful jobs was sugar soap washing of ceilings and everything else. It was fun when the boss came in and said not good enough do it again.
One day i told him to wash the /?,"*ing walls n ceiling himself and walked.
Since then i noticed the stains in recently painted surfaces that had clearly not been washed properly.
Not much of an issue nowadays.
Damp stains are similar but they need different pre treatment.

 

[Tea Bag]

One day i told him to wash the /?,"*ing walls n ceiling himself and walked.

Hi bobnick
Your " Spell checker " seems to be....................................................." Off ? ". .
Tea Bag

 

[Ivory55]

Only thing I have found is that the emulsion paint from superstore always seems to be thinner than a paint shop like brewers, others are available. It usually cost more but seems to be thicker, just my findings not any proper testing etc.

 

[Gellyneck]

Sugar soap is a waste of time, sand down properly, undercoat then two coats of a good quality oil based gloss, sanding between coats.
Steer clear of water based paints almost impossible to get a good finish without brush marks and they chip easily.

As Lenny says however would add that after sanding a light wipe over with a lint free cloth lightly dampened with white spirits to remove the dust. Let that dry then next coat.

If painting using water based paint on woodwork that has had previous oil based paint applied make sure it is properly sanded down as most water based paints don't adhere well to this.

Non-drip gloss does not give as good a finish as good old standard gloss.

If you suffer from staining \ mould \ etc on a bathroom \ kitchen ceiling there's nothing to beat Zinsser Perma-white (satin is better than matt if you can accept the slight sheen from it).
eg https://www.toolstation.com/zinsser-perma-white-self-priming-interior-paint/p67474

 

[Lenny HB]

As Lenny says however would add that after sanding a light wipe over with a lint free cloth lightly dampened with white spirits to remove the dust. Let that dry then next coat.

Even better use a Tac cloth.

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[Gellyneck]

Even better use a Tac cloth.

We don't have the same access to funds as Suvenours and white spirit is much cheaper! Also removes greasy fingerprints as well (after you've been rubbing your hands over it to make sure it's smooth enough!)

 

[old-mo]

Also removes greasy fingerprints as well (after you've been rubbing your hands over it to make sure it's smooth enough!)

Nitro-mors is a lot kinder on your hands than white spirit...

 

[Lenny HB]

Nitro-mors is a lot kinder on your hands than white spirit...

Trust your dirty mind to bring strippers into it.

 

[Gellyneck]

Nitro-mors is a lot kinder on your hands than white spirit...

As Lenny says, Auld Yin!

Get back to scoffing your Chocky Digestives.(just pretend it's a packet and not a tub!)
At least you know what to do with them!

 

[gus-lopez]

Anything requiring painting should be thrown out.

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[Garfields]

Some of the own brand paint that is available is rubbish
Found out the hard way when I had to resand a room

 

[Figaro]

I've found water based paint, which seems to be all the diy sheds sell these days to be the work of the devil.
Go to a painting and decorator merchant and get some proper solvent based paint.
Brewers are helpful or Dulux / Crown centres every time

 

[Padraigpost]

As Lenny says however would add that after sanding a light wipe over with a lint free cloth lightly dampened with white spirits to remove the dust. Let that dry then next coat.

If painting using water based paint on woodwork that has had previous oil based paint applied make sure it is properly sanded down as most water based paints don't adhere well to this.

Non-drip gloss does not give as good a finish as good old standard gloss.

If you suffer from staining \ mould \ etc on a bathroom \ kitchen ceiling there's nothing to beat Zinsser Perma-white (satin is better than matt if you can accept the slight sheen from it).
eg https://www.toolstation.com/zinsser-perma-white-self-priming-interior-paint/p67474

 

[The Wino]

I've found water based paint, which seems to be all the diy sheds sell these days to be the work of the devil.
Go to a painting and decorator merchant and get some proper solvent based paint.
Brewers are helpful or Dulux / Crown centres every time

I think the water based paints vary a lot in quality. I use Johnston's aqua water based gloss a lot a friend who is a painter and decorator now retired swapped to it years ago. It doesn't give quite the same finnish neither does it yellow lose its gloss take ages to dry etc. He did our business premises inside over previously stained wood it was a pretty good finish although it would now be detter using the zinser bin primer ( shellac based)

 

[Smudger55]

Well I'm decorating blasted Hall at moment. I tend to wash down with small drop of washing up liquid, seems to do the trick

Prefer to use oil based for woodwork, quite like crown emulsions. Just bought load crown white emulsion yesterday, got a good deal,..... I think

DO find Dulux one coat, once "torn" could peel off but bought a tin of Peel stop for bits in hall.

I'm also painting over hall wallpaper and have used Zinseer wallpaper cover over, brilliant stuff

Pressure on to complete by Christmas..... with end results being determined by management. Ha....... generally leads to extra work.

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[Figaro]

Well I'm decorating blasted Hall at moment

You have my sympathy, I did ours last year.
Far too much woodwork and doors to paint
I did find using one of those small foam rollers much quicker and gave a good finish on doors particularly.

 

[Smudger55]

You have my sympathy, I did ours last year.
Far too much woodwork and doors to paint
I did find using one of those small foam rollers much quicker and gave a good finish on doors particularly.

Thanks Figaro, agree woodwork is pain. Good Idea about rollers, will give it a try