Air bag light + engine light + flashing mileometer (1 Viewer)

[VXman]

3 year old Ducato. 28000 miles.

On Friday when setting off for the weekend the airbag light came on.

I was parked up camping for the weekend- didn't start the engine at any point.

When I started it to leave today I have a engine check light in addition to the airbag, also the mileage is flashing.

Any ideas - I initially thought the common air bad issue but am wondering about these other additions- related or coincidence.

Any ideas other than ringing Fiat Professional in the morning. I'm meant to be off to France in a week and a bit. Annoying!

 

[dunnah01]

Sounds like you need a proxy alignment doing to tell the vehicle which modules are fitted. Then a code read to see why it's lost them in the first place

 

[Barchetta47]

I take it you haven’t got an OBD reader to get the diagnostic codes? If you are on a campsite you could perhaps ask around I’m sure some one will have a reader.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

I would try disconnecting the negative side of your cab battery for 15 mins. Then reconnecting. Turn on ignition but don't try starting untill all auxiliary dash lights are out.

 

[VXman]

I take it you haven’t got an OBD reader to get the diagnostic codes? If you are on a campsite you could perhaps ask around I’m sure some one will have a reader.

Question about that. I have a scan guage but it is permanently fitted to my VX220 so not use. I dug out an old OBD II reader from the garage but it doesn't seem to fit the Ducato. did they change port size at some point in the last 20 years?

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[Phill D]

Question about that. I have a scan guage but it is permanently fitted to my VX220 so not use. I dug out an old OBD II reader from the garage but it doesn't seem to fit the Ducato. did they change port size at some point in the last 20 years?

Depending on thevyear and model the Ducato uses a number of different pin configurations with the obd plug in.

 

[Wh05apk]

I used a scangauge on our 2019 ducato no problem.

 

[VXman]

Well - considering I'm off to France next week I have bitten the bullet and booked into a Fiat Professional tomorrow. I'm all ready to be shafted! I will let you know by how much

 

[Lenny HB]

Airbag light & odometer flashing is normal for airbag ECU failure, not heard of it with engine light.

 

[MillieMoocher]

I have read that strange things happening with the instrument cluster (and vehicle electrics in general) can be down to a dodgy earth, could be worth checking out

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[VXman]

Airbag light & odometer flashing is normal for airbag ECU failure, not heard of it with engine light.

So it appears that the engine light is another separate problem (coincidental??). I shall post this in a separate thread to see how common it is.

So, not a great day. Visited a Fiat Professional in Bedford. The one I used before in Northampton is no longer Fiat and this one has just become Fiat in the last month. They have been very good at trying to fit me in quickly before my trip to France next week,

It is a failed Airbag module. they have had to order one in. They spent 2 hours investigating this and the other issue £180 diagnostic charge!!! Then there will be the airbag module and labour next week plus my other issue. I reckon I could be £1000 all in - on A 3 YEAR OLD 28,000 MILE VAN.

 

[Lenny HB]

It is a failed Airbag module. they have had to order one in. They spent 2 hours investigating this and the other issue £180 diagnostic charge!!! Then there will be the airbag module and labour next week plus my other issue. I reckon I could be £1000 all in - on A 3 YEAR OLD 28,000 MILE VAN.

Should be under £500 for the modual & fitting.
I thought they had finally got over the airbag ECU problem apparently not.

 

[tonka]

So it appears that the engine light is another separate problem (coincidental??). I shall post this in a separate thread to see how common it is.

So, not a great day. Visited a Fiat Professional in Bedford. The one I used before in Northampton is no longer Fiat and this one has just become Fiat in the last month. They have been very good at trying to fit me in quickly before my trip to France next week,

It is a failed Airbag module. they have had to order one in. They spent 2 hours investigating this and the other issue £180 diagnostic charge!!! Then there will be the airbag module and labour next week plus my other issue. I reckon I could be £1000 all in - on A 3 YEAR OLD 28,000 MILE VAN.

The part is around £280-£320 ish.. I got mine from a local spares place.
DIY fitted 10 mins, 3 bolts and 2 clip in connectors.
New parts needs to be matched to the vans system "proxi alignment" local garage charged me £40 took longer to pull onto the forecourt than to do the programming. I could have bought the software to do myself but had no laptop handy.

Bad enough that these parts fail but a big bill like that is a right kick..

 

[VXman]

Should be under £500 for the modual & fitting.
I thought they had finally got over the airbag ECU problem apparently not.

Well, the new Ducatos may have done but unless they have upgraded the unit fitted to the affected model then surely it will keep happening?

 

[VXman]

The part is around £280-£320 ish.. I got mine from a local spares place.
DIY fitted 10 mins, 3 bolts and 2 clip in connectors.
New parts needs to be matched to the vans system "proxi alignment" local garage charged me £40 took longer to pull onto the forecourt than to do the programming. I could have bought the software to do myself but had no laptop handy.

Bad enough that these parts fail but a big bill like that is a right kick..

Can a local garage do the software bit then - I thought that would be Fiat only? Newer models you can read the codes but not delete apparently. I could have gone to my local guy but I suspected he would just say no. Also I felt having a warranty on the new one might be a good idea. And I needed a quick fix.

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[tonka]

Can a local garage do the software bit then - I thought that would be Fiat only?

Yes if they have it.
There are many members on here who also have it and use it.
Multiecuscan is the software.

 

[MisterB]

i had something similat, turned out i had blown a fuse, think it was the radio fuse, the dash lit up like a christmas tree sending me into panic mode, but it really was just one fuse !!! i blew it when i was changing the head unit. of course if it is a blown fuse and it happens again, then it will need a bit more investigating.

if you havent already, check all your fuses under the dash ..... hopefully its a simple as that !

 

[AndrewB]

I had the same NOX sensor and sender fault as you - just sneaked into warranty so the dealer dealt with that.
Two months ago the airbag ecu failed (flashing mileage and airbag light) which I sent off for repair, refitted and its been fine since.
Now the tpms ecu has failed so I have taken it off to identify it, bought a used one and will fit it when it arrives.
It seems like you had the first two faults at the same time and, if you are unlucky, still have the tpms ecu to come.
MultiEcuScan has been a great way to diagnose the problems, and, using proxi align, to turn off the annoying flashing mileage and warning lights while waiting for parts.

 

[CAB96]

3 year old van, may be worth contacting Fiat Professional UK (is there such a thing?) and asking for a bit of goodwill on the replacement cost, or asking the garage to ask on your behalf.

 

[Brains]

I have learnt the following from flashing dashboard lights and warnings this summer.

Air Filter needs replacement = Birds nest in air filter
Particle filter needs replacement = Another birds nest in the air filter
Engine light = ABS Sensor full of water.
ABS FAIL = Other ABS sensor also full of water (But seemed fine the day before)
Handbrake On = No it's not
Tyre low pressure alarm = It's a bit cold on that side, warm it up a bit and it will be fine.

Lessons:
Don't drive through flooded roads, even if it's only 6" deep
Don't park near trees or other bird nesting areas.
Park facing north or south so both sides of the van warm up equally.
Never leave the handbrake on when in storage.

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[BouncyBoatFolk]

So it appears that the engine light is another separate problem (coincidental??). I shall post this in a separate thread to see how common it is.

So, not a great day. Visited a Fiat Professional in Bedford. The one I used before in Northampton is no longer Fiat and this one has just become Fiat in the last month. They have been very good at trying to fit me in quickly before my trip to France next week,

It is a failed Airbag module. they have had to order one in. They spent 2 hours investigating this and the other issue £180 diagnostic charge!!! Then there will be the airbag module and labour next week plus my other issue. I reckon I could be £1000 all in - on A 3 YEAR OLD 28,000 MILE VAN.

Indeed.
Mike.