see back threads re A frame and get the paperwork that one supplier gives you when you get the frame fitted. This paperwork really helps when you are stopped. The Spanish Police are realy impressed with the Court Case in Spain and the eventual return of the fine!!!. We have been stopped three times in Spain, produced our paperwork and have been allowed to go on our way. So now funsters, you all know someone who has been stopped and NO we haven't been gassed. Happy travelsThanks to Brisey Braunston & Bob for your info. We would like to do it and have a few months to look at all the advantages/disadvantages but will proberly do it next season
Hi is there a link to a copy of this paperwork so I can download it please?see back threads re A frame and get the paperwork that one supplier gives you when you get the frame fitted. This paperwork really helps when you are stopped. The Spanish Police are realy impressed with the Court Case in Spain and the eventual return of the fine!!!. We have been stopped three times in Spain, produced our paperwork and have been allowed to go on our way. So now funsters, you all know someone who has been stopped and NO we haven't been gassed. Happy travels
You cannot reverse a car on an A frame for any more than a couple of feet unless the steering lock is engaged and then only in a straightish lineThanks all for your help. Karalal I have phoned Towtal seems pretty good.
Just another question to ask. Are they easy to reverse?? do they reverse like an ordinary trailer.
Im sure I once said to you Dick, that you must read between the lines.Hi Maureen
You have just hit the nail on the head with your question of whether you can reverse an A Frame. Some people will tell you that they can - whilst others (such as me) will tell you that it is NOT possible to reverse an A Frame under control.
Two simple reasons (which have been bandied about endlessly for several years now):
1: The braking system on the A Frame is applied when the towed car presses against the slowing down motorhome. Common sense will tell you that if you therefore try to reverse an A frame - you will be pushing against the A Frame - therefore you will be applying the brakes on the towed car.
This is most apparent when you stop your 'rig' on a downhill slope. The weight of the towed car will want to push the A Frame down hill whilst the motorhome is stopped with the result that the brakes on the A Frame will be applied and you will have problems with disconnecting the A Frame from the motorhome!
Now some people will come back and say "Well how do they reverse Caravans the?" Simple - the caravan has an 'over-ride' system fitted which is specifically designed for that purpose - BUT oyur car does NOT have that over-ride system fitted!
2: When reversing a trailer you swing the trailer around on a central pivot (be it a single OR twin axle trailer) where the wheels on the trailer are fairly close together.
Where the wheels on a trailer are quite far apart (ie one axle at the front and one axle at the rear) you will need to be able to 'steer' the trailer with the front set of wheels.
BUT on a car (with the one axle set at the front and one set at the rear of the car) you cannot steer the front set of wheels with the A Frame (which is attached to the car - not the axle) therefore you cannot steer the trailer.
For proof of the pudding in everyday life - try steering a supermarket trolley where both the front and back wheels are locked in one direction - it simply doesn't go where you want it to!
Im sure I once said to you Dick, that you must read between the lines.
This time I think you have read too much in between the lines and are applying criteria to the rules that clearly are not there,
when asked if I can swim I reply yes,
when asked if I can reverse my towed A framed car I reply yes.
No where in either questions does it ask how far, and the regs don't state how far either, it just says must be capable of being reversed and mine it would appear as well as Dazzers can be.
But we really don't want to go there Again do we