2020 1st/ 2yr service rapido ducatto

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Strange title due to having searched and read relevant and not so relevant threads for last 3 hrs.
How much and what
Hab local Mh delear £190 mechanical £320 no fuel filter less than 7000mile
Rapido dealer required for guarantee continuation (10yr)
Nottinghamshire's finest £320 did you buy it here 80miles
Southern £190 did you buy it here 80 miles
Purchasing dealer £199 NO question fiat pro mech £509 +£56 brake fluid 150miles
Main guarantee 2yrs (french made not uk 3yr)
Local fiat pro £550
Question is it worth a non existent guarantee or pospone the question for a yr
 
the1andonly said:
Strange title due to having searched and read relevant and not so relevant threads for last 3 hrs.
How much and what
Hab local Mh delear £190 mechanical £320 no fuel filter less than 7000mile
Rapido dealer required for guarantee continuation (10yr)
Nottinghamshire's finest £320 did you buy it here 80miles
Southern £190 did you buy it here 80 miles
Purchasing dealer £199 NO question fiat pro mech £509 +£56 brake fluid 150miles
Main guarantee 2yrs (french made not uk 3yr)
Local fiat pro £550
Question is it worth a non existent guarantee or pospone the question for a yr
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God they all know how to charge, ,BUSBY.
 
Not sure what mileage you've done, but our local Fiat dealer (Huttons, Bleadon, Weston-super-Mare) will do a low mileage mechanical service for circa £185 I think?

If relevant, you can but ask.

You still get a stamp in your service record, which doesn't indicate it is low mileage and seems to fulfil the warranty requirement.
 
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Only done 4400 in 2 years 2600 in 1st yr had oil change last year.
 
I don’t know the legalities of warranties,and this is your problem really.
Having said that,whilst it’s within the warranty period I would probably go by the book. Then,if there’s a problem down the line,you’re in a strong position.

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At 4400 do i really need a full service, no problem getting oil changed but £500 for a warranty out of time relying on possible fiat good will , on future problems i may not have.
Just accept the saving and then !!
 
AFAIK Rapido only guarantees the conversion. Fiat guarantee the engine and other mechanics but they only require an engine service at 28000 miles or every 2 years. So I do not understand your reference to Rapido requiring the service.

Of are talking about a habitation and damp check that many converters require?
 
As usual the manufacturer is giving you nothing. They are insisting that you pay a premium every year to make sure they'll never have to pay out any warranty claims.
Demanding that we pay for a habitation check, again every year, simply to make sure they didn't cock up with the water sealing at the factory is outrageous.
 
Small independent for me always. You'll be sure they are doing the jobs requested.
Dealers and so called professionals are very money orientated. They have a lot of pomp and show to pay for.

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Why do you think you have 10 year warranty. As far as I know Rapido do 5 year water tightness and 2 year all other bits?
 
the1andonly said:
Strange title due to having searched and read relevant and not so relevant threads for last 3 hrs.
How much and what
Hab local Mh delear £190 mechanical £320 no fuel filter less than 7000mile
Rapido dealer required for guarantee continuation (10yr)
Nottinghamshire's finest £320 did you buy it here 80miles
Southern £190 did you buy it here 80 miles
Purchasing dealer £199 NO question fiat pro mech £509 +£56 brake fluid 150miles
Main guarantee 2yrs (french made not uk 3yr)
Local fiat pro £550
Question is it worth a non existent guarantee or pospone the question for a yr
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Try Rockingham cars Fiat Pro 1st service 2years low miles £200 next service will be a full service at 4 years with oil change and all filters around £700 this also keeps with recommend plan for Fiat extended warranty.

I never bother with hab service but do have the mandatory annual damp check specified by Hymer to keep the 6 year water ingress warranty
 
The doccumentation i have state a 10 yr water ingress warranty. With no extended warranty from morch that will be the only cover i have. Is fiat goodwill worth protecting? I suspect i will go for the low mileage service (to get the stamp) and hab service (to cover rapido requirements).
As to ridiculous low mileage , use it. Love to, it was my intention to , but other people conspire to prevent me. The sandwich generation, but thats a different story.
I will start another thread on multiscan
 
Steve and Denise said:
Try Rockingham cars Fiat Pro 1st service 2years low miles £200 next service will be a full service at 4 years with oil change and all filters around £700 this also keeps with recommend plan for Fiat extended warranty.

I never bother with hab service but do have the mandatory annual damp check specified by Hymer to keep the 6 year water ingress warranty
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I had a first service 2 years carried out at Rockingham cars last September total cost was £441.01 but that included all filters . The actual service cost was shown as £168 the rest was materials and VAT. Not sure what further checks could justify a £700 service.
 
I had a Fiat Professional dealer low miles service after 12 months and again at 24 months.

The 1st major service will be at 36 months. I expect it will include filters and brake fluid change so quite pricey. First MOT as well.

It had one hab service at 12 months for Rapido warranty reasons. I felt that was a waste of time and money. Nothing untoward was found. Not going to repeat that. If any hab stuff should need mending and is beyond my DIY skills I will look for a caravan and motorhome repair bloke.

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I bought a new Audi some years ago. I had the first service at the Audi garage and cost a bomb for not a lot but received an email with a video of the work being done! Ever since I have used a local non-franchised independent and sod the warranty.

Its also why I bought a quality german motorhome secondhand and the warranty was already blown. I will have to take it on the chin if a problem crops up!
 
Steve and Denise said:
Try Rockingham cars Fiat Pro 1st service 2years low miles £200 next service will be a full service at 4 years with oil change and all filters around £700 this also keeps with recommend plan for Fiat extended warranty.

I never bother with hab service but do have the mandatory annual damp check specified by Hymer to keep the 6 year water ingress warranty
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Oil and filter £190
fuel filter £ cant remember but dear
pollen filter £100
brake check + fluid change
grease two rear Alko axels all plus VAT = £700
Trev45
 
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With taking out the Fiat extended warranty I have stuck to the service schedule laid out by Fiat I know its expensive, but so was the extended warranty :giggle:
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As always I will avoid any kind of insurance - prefeing to self insure and take my chances.
Considering that this a commercial van and should be good for 200,000 miles, the very low milage we use them for pales to insignificance. I have just bought a new MoHo and won't be having any service contracts or extended warranties, It will have a simply oil and filter service annually, just like my last 7 year old van.
I did change the pollen filter after 5 years but it was perfectly OK, so a waste of time and money.

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With our van being a 9mtr a class I was taking no chances already had a new ecu and instrument cluster replaced under the Fiat extended warranty that would have cost a fewquid
The Fiat warranty only covers up to 30 k miles according to the paper work.
 
Steve and Denise said:
Oil and filter £190
fuel filter £ cant remember but dear
pollen filter £100
brake check + fluid change
grease two rear Alko axels all plus VAT = £700
Trev45
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I think you are being charged more because you own an A class which can be more difficult to work on . My PVC obviously is a normal van so less labour charges. As I stated the actual service cost £168 . The materials were :-
Pollen Filter £30.25
Air Filter £41-45
Oil Filter £15-06
Sealing Gasket £3-25
Fuel Filter £45
Oil £54
Brake Fluid £10-50
All plus VAT.
Once out of warranty I will go to an independent garage where no doubt there will be quite a saving.
 
Trev45 said:
I think you are being charged more because you own an A class which can be more difficult to work on . My PVC obviously is a normal van so less labour charges. As I stated the actual service cost £168 . The materials were :-
Pollen Filter £30.25
Air Filter £41-45
Oil Filter £15-06
Sealing Gasket £3-25
Fuel Filter £45
Oil £54
Brake Fluid £10-50
All plus VAT.
Once out of warranty I will go to an independent garage where no doubt there will be quite a saving.
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Yes that could be right once it’s on the ramp up in the air it is a lump,
You can’t even see the fuel filter on the pollen filter ?
 
I have been told to keep the Damp warranty on my Chausson I have to have a Habitation check done by a Chausson Dealer, I can't see the Relevance having Habitation Check or just having a Damp Test , if I ever change the Motorhome I will make sure I check a bit more about maintenance ,and If I don't get clarified exactly what we expect in writing we won't be buying it.
 
Am I missing something? The base vehicle has a 2 year Fiat warranty. Fiat only require the vehicle to be serviced every 2 years if it doesn't exceed the mileage requirements. At 2 years it will be out of warranty, so why worry about getting a main dealer service?

Personally, I'd change the oil every 12 months, but even if you buy the oil and a filter from a main dealer parts counter and get an independent to do it (if you can't do it yourself) it will still be cheaper than a main dealer "light" service (which is basically an oil and filter change BTW).
 
Deneb said:
Am I missing something? The base vehicle has a 2 year Fiat warranty. Fiat only require the vehicle to be serviced every 2 years if it doesn't exceed the mileage requirements. At 2 years it will be out of warranty, so why worry about getting a main dealer service?

Personally, I'd change the oil every 12 months, but even if you buy the oil and a filter from a main dealer parts counter and get an independent to do it (if you can't do it yourself) it will still be cheaper than a main dealer "light" service (which is basically an oil and filter change BTW).
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Last time I looked at the handbook it recommended a 12 month service but I could be wrong. The 24 month service interval seems to be aimed at the fleet van market where running cost comparisons matter more.

AFAIK the independent garage won't or can't check for outstanding FIAT recalls (my X290 has had 2 and there could be recall 3 still to come) or software updates. My PVC hasn't covered many miles and at this early stage in its life I'm going to take it to a FIAT Professional dealer for services. A few more years down the line and I will probably be looking for a dependable independent to keep the costs down and maybe get better skills and knowledge.
 
SpeedyDux said:
Last time I looked at the handbook it recommended a 12 month service but I could be wrong. The 24 month service interval seems to be aimed at the fleet van market where running cost comparisons matter more.

AFAIK the independent garage won't or can't check for outstanding FIAT recalls (my X290 has had 2 and there could be recall 3 still to come) or software updates. My PVC hasn't covered many miles and at this early stage in its life I'm going to take it to a FIAT Professional dealer for services. A few more years down the line and I will probably be looking for a dependable independent to keep the costs down and maybe get better skills and knowledge.
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I agree service intervals are aimed at the fleet market and I also think they're too long, but Fiat state 2 years on time(not mileage) basis and recommend an annual oil change only for severe usage conditions, which can include low mileage as the standing around is hard on the oil.

So only a 2 year service required for the warranty, which will have expired by the time it is due.

Anyone can check for recalls. Just go to the MyDucato website and put your VIN in the search box. Obviously you would have to take the vehicle to a franchised dealer for recall work, mainly because they have access to the technical bulletin, the correct parts required and the authority to carry out the work free of charge. But you don't need to have a main dealer service history to be eligible for recalls. If a recall has been instigated on your van, the franchised dealer is contractually required to carry out the work no matter what..

Unless it has recently changed and notwithstanding a policy decision such as the instrument cluster lighting update on X290s, Fiat's policy on software updates is to only apply them if the customer complains of a fault or undesired behaviour which can be verified by the dealer and has been addressed by an update. There are updates to ECU firmwares being put into production continuously, but if your van isn't broken why "fix" it with an update that might have other undesirable consequences?
 
My understanding is that if a Fiat van is purchased in the UK then the warranty is 3 years provided it has been serviced in accordance with Fiat policy.
 
Trev45 said:
My understanding is that if a Fiat van is purchased in the UK then the warranty is 3 years provided it has been serviced in accordance with Fiat policy.
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In respect of motorhomes it depends where the converter purchased the base machine, not where the ultimate user purchased the motorhome. The basic Fiat Ducato warranty is 2 years, and that is what most of the European converters apply because they buy them from outside the UK. But UK converters (that use Fiat) purchase them via Fiat (UK), and as part of the deal Fiat (UK) top it up with a 3rd year.

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