10% upfront on new van ? (1 Viewer)

[rob1234]

hi is it normal for a dealer to ask for 10% when ordering and registering new van i have sent him 1k already now asking for £8 to register it ,,never bought a new one before so not sure if this ok ,,thanks

 

[Dutch 68]

Thankyou but we have looked at them in the past but the Aztec XL which is on the 6.4 metre LWB has a funny extra bit on the garage which makes the kitchen really small with no worktop otherwise I think we’d be racing up there!

Are they not willing to make some changes so you get your preferred lay out?

 

[Lenny HB]

So they backtracked? I thought Alan Kerr were well thought of.....

They were when Simon was there, absolute rubbish now.

If it is deal breaker and you have to pay it I would suggest you pay it by Credit Card. You will then have some protection.

Absolutely none there aren't any new vans under £30k which is the limit for section 75.

 

[carolyn]

Devon conversions have a couple of fiat autos available on their website for conversion if any of their layouts suit

I’d heard they were a bit like Murvi , take it or leave it type of thing but I suppose there’s no harm in asking .

 

[Just smiffy]

hi just said if they cant register it without the £9k total they asked ,,just return my £1000 and i will keep mine, they said ,,(no problem ) ? looks like i wont be getting my new van ,,

dealer has now said (alan kerr) that they will register it with £1000 i paid ,,

There’s no way a company is going to turn away £80-90k turnover this month…

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[NicandJay]

We recently bought a brand new van just shy of £90K with only a £1000 deposit which was completely refundable upon inspection of the van on collection. We bought unseen... risky we know. We had this in writing too. Be careful of large deposits

They had fitted the extras we required too but we could have walked away with our deposit back.

 

[Bessy765]

If buying a new van you are probably over the section 75 protection although they want a lower sum than the limit it goes on the goods total price. We have been fortunate that we have bought our last 4 vans brand new and only paid £1000 deposit for each.

 

[clanjones]

Lenny HB was more thinking about protecting his deposit if thing went pear shaped. Absolutely correct about £30k limit with CC doesn't get you much of a motorhome!!

 

[Lenny HB]

Lenny HB was more thinking about protecting his deposit if thing went pear shaped. Absolutely correct about £30k limit with CC doesn't get you much of a motorhome!!

Won't protect a deposit if the total value if the purchase is over £30k

 

[DJIT]

Thankyou but we have looked at them in the past but the Aztec XL which is on the 6.4 metre LWB has a funny extra bit on the garage which makes the kitchen really small with no worktop otherwise I think we’d be racing up there!

Yes the extra space does go to the garage, leaving the kitchen a more standard size.
This was a big plus for us as it gives us lots more boot storage space, leaving the inside of the van feeling much tidier and less cluttered.
But of course everyone has different criteria

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[Lenny333]

Consort ask for £8,500 deposit on a new PVC so that’s about 10%. Not that I was looking of course! Mind you they only seem to be building on preowned Peugots and we’d only be interested in a new Fiat Automatic. I wonder if supplies will ever improve or will these smaller companies go out of business. Not everyone wants a manual. I’d be happy but Nick’s knees wouldn’t cope.

Hi carolyn,

Have a look at Vantage Motorhomes… they’re pretty much identical in layout to Consort (the Consort owners used to own Vantage) and Vantage had new Fiat autos ready for conversion a couple of weeks ago.

It seems we got one of Consorts last Fiat autos but we did place our order around 2 years ago and are now hoping to pick up in a couple for months.

BTW, the deposit was £5k at that time although it’s now increased to £8.5k as you say.

 

[lorger]

We paid £1000 deposit when buying our new van, they registered it the day we picked it up. I thought all new vehicles could be registered the day of collection, you wouldn’t want it done 4 weeks before so don’t understand why he’s asking for £8k to register it.

 

[carolyn]

Hi carolyn,

Have a look at Vantage Motorhomes… they’re pretty much identical in layout to Consort (the Consort owners used to own Vantage) and Vantage had new Fiat autos ready for conversion a couple of weeks ago.

It seems we got one of Consorts last Fiat autos but we did place our order around 2 years ago and are now hoping to pick up in a couple for months.

BTW, the deposit was £5k at that time although it’s now increased to £8.5k as you say.

Thankyou, we are very fussy! We have looked at the Vantage Neo but we don’t like the kitchen drawers with the door over the top. It seems such a waste of space. The drawers behind the door are really tiny and useless!

We have an IH630RL which has nothing wrong with it and is only 2019 but is the Comformatic gearbox. Nick is itching to get his hands/feet on the new Auto!

Once we start wanting something we are very impatient. There’s no way we could place an order and wait 2 years. One of us might die in that time or change our mind.

I know that Scott started Vantage and sold it. Travelled a bit and then started Consort.

 

[carolyn]

Yes the extra space does go to the garage, leaving the kitchen a more standard size.
This was a big plus for us as it gives us lots more boot storage space, leaving the inside of the van feeling much tidier and less cluttered.
But of course everyone has different criteria

Exactly. It would be very boring if we all liked the same thing.

 

[MichaelT]

We paid £1000 deposit when buying our new van, they registered it the day we picked it up. I thought all new vehicles could be registered the day of collection, you wouldn’t want it done 4 weeks before so don’t understand why he’s asking for £8k to register it.

I think they can register in advance of pick up date, certainly our last 2 vans were as we received the V5 before pick up but date first Registered was pick up date.

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[pelican]

Salesman and manager attempting to secure their commission/bonus early?

Doesn't work that quickly.

 

[Minxy]

AFAIK MHs have to be registered by post so doing it on the day of collection would mean it hadn't actually been registered yet, just that the paperwork had been posted then. It can, I believe, be registered for a future date, eg paperwork sent of on 1st for it to be registered from 10th.

 

[Orion]

AFAIK MHs have to be registered by post so doing it on the day of collection would mean it hadn't actually been registered yet, just that the paperwork had been posted then. It can, I believe, be registered for a future date, eg paperwork sent of on 1st for it to be registered from 10th.

Ours was done electronically on the day of collection - Chelston in our case - and the V5C received directly from the DVLA a few days later. I understand that some dealers have this facility as we were offered a choice of registration number a few weeks prior to that.

 

[nicholsong]

Registration is irrelevant to obtaining 'Ownership', which is what one needs if one is parting with £'ooos .

V5c specifically states that is not proof of ownership - look at you first page!

Bill of Sale is what you need under English Law to establish ownership.

I wonder how many members on here have one for their MH?

 

[rob1234]

We paid £1000 deposit when buying our new van, they registered it the day we picked it up. I thought all new vehicles could be registered the day of collection, you wouldn’t want it done 4 weeks before so don’t understand why he’s asking for £8k to register it.

he said it can take up to 4 weeks ,,?

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[Coastal Cruiser.]

Ok a strange one, watching YouTube a few days back and a family have gone out to rent a brand new van and drive it back to the UK for the rental company, they are paying £19 a day rental but all the ferry charges are included
How can they register a new 2024 van in Italy with UK plates?? Does the vehicle not have to be in the UK to register??

 

[vkr15s]

We paid £1000 deposit when buying our new van, they registered it the day we picked it up. I thought all new vehicles could be registered the day of collection, you wouldn’t want it done 4 weeks before so don’t understand why he’s asking for £8k to register it.

Same paid a 3k deposit and picked up van this March registered on the day, this request seems unusual . No way would I part with any monies once I had paid the initial agreed deposit until pick up

 

[DJIT]

Ok a strange one, watching YouTube a few days back and a family have gone out to rent a brand new van and drive it back to the UK for the rental company, they are paying £19 a day rental but all the ferry charges are included
How can they register a new 2024 van in Italy with UK plates?? Does the vehicle not have to be in the UK to register??

An old colleague collected his new Porsche from the factory and drove it home - it was all registered when he collected it.

 

[carolyn]

The Home page of Consort has changed since last week. It is now saying they have Autos in stock for summer delivery. That really is a surprise as their waiting times have been horrendously long.

 

[Lenny333]

The Home page of Consort has changed since last week. It is now saying they have Autos in stock for summer delivery. That really is a surprise as their waiting times have been horrendously long.

carolyn Please let me/us know what they say if you contact them as I’d be very interested to hear as I’ve had a very long wait…

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[carolyn]

carolyn Please let me/us know what they say if you contact them as I’d be very interested to hear as I’ve had a very long wait…

Will do. It does seem a bit strange. We did look at factory visits but no free appointments until the last 2 days in May.

 

[Head Gardener]

Are they not willing to make some changes so you get your preferred lay out?

Devon make what they make (and TBH they make it well, I had an Aztec and still slightly regret selling it).

They do not customise, they do not make changes. They are a small, privately owned company and the approach is that if you do not like what they make, please go somewhere else.

 

[carolyn]

Devon make what they make (and TBH they make it well, I had an Aztec and still slightly regret selling it).

They do not customise, they do not make changes. They are a small, privately owned company and the approach is that if you do not like what they make, please go somewhere else.

I think that’s fair enough to be honest . I don’t mind them not making what I like. I suppose Nick and I do know what we like we’re just hoping the blasted Fiat Autos start appearing. We do admire people who are willing to order a van and wait 18 months to 2 years for it but life’s too short. If I want a new van I don’t mind waiting a few months whilst they build it to my specs but that’s it. We did that with both our IHs. We just fancy a change.

The other thing of course is that if we can order one soon we can spec a diesel heater, it will have a compressor fridge, we can get solar plus lithium all organised for our 6 week trip to Iceland next year!! It seems there’s no lpg in Iceland and we have a 3 way fridge, lpg /electric boiler. We’re not always on proper campsites apparently.

I am adding this to my reasons to buy a new van along with Nick’s knees and “I want one”

 

[Nanniemate]

Someone with more knowledge than me may have experience of this.

The company I worked for had a fleet of hire cars. A good deal was struck as often they were swopped/recalled by the lease company after 6 months. They were then sold on. And replaced with a new one

Even to the stage that on one exchange I was waiting for the transporter to be unloaded. Quick check and away. 7 miles on the clock

I was told it was something to to with import tax.

 

[rob1234]

Registration is irrelevant to obtaining 'Ownership', which is what one needs if one is parting with £'ooos .

V5c specifically states that is not proof of ownership - look at you first page!

Bill of Sale is what you need under English Law to establish ownership.

I wonder how many members on here have one for their MH?

i dont think anyone is saying its not ,,but if its registered to me ,,doesnt that put an extra owner on it? thus reducing the value ,,but i might be wrong ,, ,or can they register it ,without putting a name to it ?

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[Soycd]

Ok a strange one, watching YouTube a few days back and a family have gone out to rent a brand new van and drive it back to the UK for the rental company, they are paying £19 a day rental but all the ferry charges are included
How can they register a new 2024 van in Italy with UK plates?? Does the vehicle not have to be in the UK to register??

Depends on the circumstances. Is it LHD? Is it already registered in Italy? Are they intending to buy it, then UK register it? Could you post the link?