Positive story for MH in UK or just click bait?

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I hope we motorhomers get more Aires come on board. Towns like Bury St Edmunds already have dedicated spaces for overnight stops at, wait for it, £3.50 per night.
Clever thinking.
Phil
 
I think CamPra has being growing for some time now. We have come across one or two on our recent long UK trips.

I think a lot of them are maybe just like the off grid 5 van CL sites. Can't have enough of them. The off grid CL sites are what we tend to use in the UK (Well England) the most.

Map of locations here



 
Gaston aires said:
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I hope we motorhomers get more Aires come on board. Towns like Bury St Edmunds already have dedicated spaces for overnight stops at, wait for it, £3.50 per night.
Clever thinking.
Phil
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CAMPRA have done recent surveys of both owners and users. This article is, I suspect, a report of their press release. I would expect to see similar in a number of media outlets. They are saying what we know. Provide parking and appropriate facilities, they will be used and bring expenditure into the immediate area.

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Have to say that I'm a bit dubious about the emphasis that aires would bring in money to a local community. Yes we buy fuel, groceries etc. and maybe the odd pub meal, but we don't do it every day so just how much benefit is there really?

Repeating often stated opinions, the real problem with motorhoming in the UK, and in many places abroad too, is insufficient infrastructure creating overcrowding and subsequent complaints by the locals. I don't see local councils/communities recouping anywhere near the cost of putting these facilities in. Those that do are almost universally incorporated into existing parking etc. and rarely include waste disposal and water supply. And good luck if you think electricity should be included too, which would soon attract the, shall we say, "undesirables".

With the financial pressure on councils providing services for their own population, it's not surprising that our cause is a very low priority. I'm happy, of course, to support any initiative, but alas, in the UK at least, the extensive CL/CS network tends to get our support.
 
scotjimland said:
I use this map for off grid CLs


Off Grid CLs

stayed on one recently near Lowestoft for a fiver a night ..

Willow End

FULL ADDRESS: Dorking Rd, Lound, Lowestoft, Suffolk, England
POSTCODE: NR32 5NP
COUNTY: Suffolk

CAMC WEBSITE LINK: https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/certificated-locations/england/suffolk/lowestoft/willow-end/
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I just looked at that site and see the site at Newtown, Powys. The snag is that they quote the address as being at Machynlleth which it obviously is not.
 
TerryL said:
Have to say that I'm a bit dubious about the emphasis that aires would bring in money to a local community. Yes we buy fuel, groceries etc. and maybe the odd pub meal, but we don't do it every day so just how much benefit is there really?

Repeating often stated opinions, the real problem with motorhoming in the UK, and in many places abroad too, is insufficient infrastructure creating overcrowding and subsequent complaints by the locals. I don't see local councils/communities recouping anywhere near the cost of putting these facilities in. Those that do are almost universally incorporated into existing parking etc. and rarely include waste disposal and water supply. And good luck if you think electricity should be included too, which would soon attract the, shall we say, "undesirables".

With the financial pressure on councils providing services for their own population, it's not surprising that our cause is a very low priority. I'm happy, of course, to support any initiative, but alas, in the UK at least, the extensive CL/CS network tends to get our support.
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Then why are there so many across Europe?

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TerryL said:
Have to say that I'm a bit dubious about the emphasis that aires would bring in money to a local community. Yes we buy fuel, groceries etc. and maybe the odd pub meal, but we don't do it every day so just how much benefit is there really?

Repeating often stated opinions, the real problem with motorhoming in the UK, and in many places abroad too, is insufficient infrastructure creating overcrowding and subsequent complaints by the locals. I don't see local councils/communities recouping anywhere near the cost of putting these facilities in. Those that do are almost universally incorporated into existing parking etc. and rarely include waste disposal and water supply. And good luck if you think electricity should be included too, which would soon attract the, shall we say, "undesirables".

With the financial pressure on councils providing services for their own population, it's not surprising that our cause is a very low priority. I'm happy, of course, to support any initiative, but alas, in the UK at least, the extensive CL/CS network tends to get our support.
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I think thats why the sprung up in France. To solve a problem rather than looking for an income stream. Its kind of a double whammy though if a village or place is popular as it solves the issue of motorhomes parking where they maybe shouldn't and of course it will bring in some income especially in France where they seem to be able to cram 40 vans onto the same space we only allow 5.
 
Jev88 said:
Then why are there so many across Europe?
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For the reasons barryd says. Land values in the UK are too high to persuade anybody that a campsite is a nice income earner when houses are much more remunerative. We just don't have the space whereas other countries do.
Spain, and to some extent Portugal, are now realising this, and we're starting to see dedicated motorhome parking areas appearing in high demand areas. Personally, I'm not averse to €10 for a secure place with facilities.
 
TerryL said:
For the reasons barryd says. Land values in the UK are too high to persuade anybody that a campsite is a nice income earner when houses are much more remunerative. We just don't have the space whereas other countries do.
Spain, and to some extent Portugal, are now realising this, and we're starting to see dedicated motorhome parking areas appearing in high demand areas. Personally, I'm not averse to €10 for a secure place with facilities.
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It must also be a lot easier to set them up on private land in France as there are plenty of France Passion and Private Aires dotted about on farms etc. Here we seem to have a five van exemption which is great but if that five van rule was relaxed here like it obviously is in France a lot of farmers etc would perhaps see it as a bit of a potential money spinner. Some of the CL's we stay on are huge and in France would probably have dozens of vans on. A tenner a night each for a couple of acres that will hold 30 vans suddenly becomes more worthwhile.
 
Regretfully that would never work in the UK. Something called "Planning Regulations".
 

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