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No need to register its at bottom of page, but you need a chassis number.
I'll second the above, same year, same engine / gearbox and an absolute pleasure to drive. Also chain driven so no cambelt to worry about.I have a '09 250 3 litre auto...........Still the same engine.
Never had a hint of a judder.............I would go as far as saying it is a wonderful engine and a pure joy to drive especially in auto mode.
Its brilliant.
barry
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I'll second the above, same year, same engine / gearbox and an absolute pleasure to drive. Also chain driven so no cambelt to worry about.
Geoff.
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If you have a Fiat X/250 engine with a 6sp manual gearbox then you have the reverse gear judder problem simple as that.
The reason the judder is there is because the engine revs are too high because of the high gear ratios when reverse gear is selected, basically the gears are small in diameter to fit all those 7 gears into the gearbox housing.
The modification was to fit a larger reverse gear thus reducing the gear ratio and preventing the excessive clutch slip and judder.
Fiat did a fix for the smaller 2.3ltr engine but didn`t have a fix for the 3ltr so if you have a 3 ltr engine you`re stuck with the problem.
The auto gearbox didn`t suffer from this problem, the problem was finally fixed in all models whith the introduction of the euro 5 engine.
Look up Andy Stothert and his campaign to bring this farce to the medias and Fiats attention.
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Is it just me and my X250 but Ive tried all I can to make it judder
but it just wont !!!
barry
Nonsense i have a 3lt man 6 speed from new 08 model beel all over the uk and have had no problems in fact the fiat eng is the best i have ever drivenIf you have a Fiat X/250 engine with a 6sp manual gearbox then you have the reverse gear judder problem simple as that.
The reason the judder is there is because the engine revs are too high because of the high gear ratios when reverse gear is selected, basically the gears are small in diameter to fit all those 7 gears into the gearbox housing.
The modification was to fit a larger reverse gear thus reducing the gear ratio and preventing the excessive clutch slip and judder.
Fiat did a fix for the smaller 2.3ltr engine but didn`t have a fix for the 3ltr so if you have a 3 ltr engine you`re stuck with the problem.
The auto gearbox didn`t suffer from this problem, the problem was finally fixed in all models whith the introduction of the euro 5 engine.
Look up Andy Stothert and his campaign to bring this farce to the medias and Fiats attention.
Nonsense i have a 3lt man 6 speed from new 08 model beel all over the uk and have had no problems in fact the fiat eng is the best i have ever driven
Nonsense i have a 3lt man 6 speed from new 08 model beel all over the uk and have had no problems in fact the fiat eng is the best i have ever driven
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As above, I find its easy to search for people with the Fiat reverse judder problems and this could easily put me off buying a new motorhome.
So I would like to get a balanced view from those that have the newer chassis and have no real problems.
I love the more modern shape and would try to stretch to this model if I could satisfy myself of its reliability. I dont want something thats in and out of the garage while they cant find anything wrong !
Look up Andy Stothert and his campaign to bring this farce to the medias and Fiats attention.
There is nothing wrong with the engine at all.
It's at low revs on an incline in reverse, and at times going forward.
Increasing the revs helps to eliminate it, but overall vehicle control suffers, plus you are then risking damaging the clutch.
With a diesel engine it should be possible to manouvre on tickover, regardless of the size of the vehicle.
I have been a driving instructor and HGV driver for longer than I care to remember and low speed manouvres have never been a problem to me, until now, with this particular vehicle.
I agree that the engine is very good but if you think you haven't got a shudder try reversing up a steep hill.
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I have the "auto" box in my X250..but its not a proper auto . its a computer controlled gear change. So if the ratios and gear box are the same why no judder with this auto ?
As I have said I can reverse back up a steep hill slowly with total control and no judder at all.
I think its a lovely gearbox and a great relaxing engine to drive
barry
I have the "auto" box in my X250..but its not a proper auto . its a computer controlled gear change. So if the ratios and gear box are the same why no judder with this auto ?
As I have said I can reverse back up a steep hill slowly with total control and no judder at all.
I think its a lovely gearbox and a great relaxing engine to drive
barry
Nonsense i have a 3lt man 6 speed from new 08 model beel all over the uk and have had no problems in fact the fiat eng is the best i have ever driven
You are I'll informed historical data does show that all x250 based vehicles with a manual gearbox upto the Euro 5 engined vehicle were fitted with too high a ratio in reverse gear.
This is a fact that both Peugeot and finally Fiat accepted.
The engine capabilities have never been in question.
I have the "auto" box in my X250..but its not a proper auto . its a computer controlled gear change. So if the ratios and gear box are the same why no judder with this auto ?
As I have said I can reverse back up a steep hill slowly with total control and no judder at all.
I think its a lovely gearbox and a great relaxing engine to drive
barry
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