pappajohn
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Oh dear Chris....you should have patented it when you had the chance....
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Oh dear Chris....you should have patented it when you had the chance....
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That looks impressive pappajohn, what are your thoughts?
with a radical design overhaul JJThat must be Chris's... he has gone into production...
JJ :Cool:
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close 'the super charger .co.uk'Fitting 3 more solar panels on Sunday so hopefully I won't need it, however it looks really good and would be great for getting a vehicle started if battery was flat.
The pictures a bit blurry but I expect the label says 'Chris Green Enterprises' or similar.
overpriced.....and I dont think its a Honda engine to boot oh:£500
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it's a chonda(chinese copy)overpriced.....and I dont think its a Honda engine to boot oh:
seen Chris's in action (same thing, different design) and it does what it says on the tin.
not sure but i think Chris's is 70amps
could do with a better silencer on the Honda 50cc engine but can be sorted and not too loud as it is.
i wouldn't want to use it all the time as i think it will eventually kill your batteries charging too fast, but in an emergency situation it will get you out of the brown stuff pretty damned quick :thumb:
1st point doug!! i was at the whenbury meet over the new year,and all the van's fitted with solar panels had to use a genny to keep the batteries chargedoh:solar is ok in the summer:thumb: but winter?????????I agree John and at £400 plus its a bit of a luxury plus the temptation to use it may just be a little more that the batteries could stand, especially if its someone that not too familiar to the needs of a battery, I.E. electrolight, If I was asked I would say stay away, spend the money on solar panels.
Doug...
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12 volt generators do not incorporate a proper three stage battery charger they should only be used for bulk re-charging of a well discharged battery.
totaly correct:thumb:Advice from the Silk Route Club on charging from a generator...
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totaly correct:thumb:
Note, some wet cell deep cycle batteries will not accept a fast charge & may require trickle charging for a long period of time. For an efficient system with faster recharge times AGM or cranking batteries can be used.
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the reason i use cheap wet cell batteries:thumb:good article,
if you read advice in Christie engineering they say about 12v generator chargers, (and I agree)
Long term continual use may shorten the life a a deep cycle battery as it will never be fully charged .. this can only be achieved by using a three stage charger..
On balance, provided you understand how they work, the drawbacks and limitations .. :thumb:
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who can get a full charge in 100 minutes
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i bet a lot of motorhomers would be happy if their solar was produsing 50amp an hour?all year round?But can you ?
Charging lead acid is about making chemical changes, these take a certain time. Molecules have to physically move in the soup, reactions have to take place, there is only so much surface area for these changes to take place.
Similar I think, pan of soup, heat it normally 10 mins. But you want FAST, so you get out the cutting torch, "I'll show them how to heat a can of soup in 30 seconds", 30 seconds later, big hole in pan, failed.
1st point doug!! i was at the whenbury meet over the new year,and all the van's fitted with solar panels had to use a genny to keep the batteries chargedoh:solar is ok in the summer:thumb: but winter?????????
2nd point!! an alternator charger will not damage the batteries,they are regulated as the batteries need less charge the alternator will adjust itself and drop down to a trickle charge,you could leave it running 24/7 with no damage to the batteries.:thumb:
a battery on a car can happily last 6 years with a alternator as its sole chargeing method,yes it will need topping up with electrolight,but dont all open vented batteries need it now and again?the battery on my car is seven years old and charged by a 140amp alternator and still good:thumb:
dont agree to what???? whenbury or car alternators????I don't agree, so we have to agree to disagree.
Doug...
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dont agree to what???? whenbury or car alternators????
ok:thumb:I really don't want to get into this, I don't think there is any point you have your position and I have mine and we don't agree, I will be satisfied to let these items come on to the market and then wait for the complaints that they have shortened the battery life.
Doug...
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i mean cold hard fact's.
as you say they dont charge at 50amp all the time thats the whole point:thumb:When I had a flat starter battery, jump started and then put a meter on and it was initially charging at 70amps from the alternator, and kept this up for a while before gradually dropping as the battery voltage increased. I would expect this generator would do much the same i.e you would not charge at 50A for very long. The advert implies that they calculated the recharge time on the theoretical maximum output, which would not happen in practice so I would expect no damage to the batteries, but the recharge time would be longer in practice than advertised though still much faster than a Honda or Kippor.
Time will tell whether its worth £500 and the bother of carrying it and the petrol to run it.
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