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Fair enough Dave, so in retrospect butane don't work when it get cold, stick with propane."When we were tugging we used butane in summer and propane in winter as butane freezes @ I believe about +1 or 2 degrees C."
Sorry to be a pedantic bugger but Butane does not freeze at that temperature. That is the boiling point of butane. Ambient temperatures around or below that will mean the butane does not boil and turn to vapour. Propane's boiling point is around -47 C which is why it will work all year round.
D.
No the differend gasses work at different temps, propane works at much lower temps.It's usually the regulators that freeze, anyway, isn't it? But on a Moho, with the regulator being more 'enclosed' than in the A frame gas locker thingy on a caravan, I should think that would be a lot more rare, wouldn't it?
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This page attempts to give an indication of the propane/butane ratio of Autogas, but warns:Isn't LPG/Autogas at petrol stations a mix of propane and butane?
i changed my cepsa bottle wednesday. 12kg only 14.35 euro . usually in spain swapping bottles is alot cheaper than using autogas /gpl.We have had a Gaslow system fitted almost from the off. When we bought a new van 3 years ago part of the deal was the dealer had to move the system from the old van to the new.
If you plan to travel in Europe (surely most motorhomers do?) for more than a few weeks then refillable cylinders really come into their own. Gaslow can supply all the adaptors so you can fill up anywhere. LPG from a garage costs a lot less than in a replacement cylinder from Calor etc.
Paul
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£626:50 for a full twin 11kg Gaslow system, plus £132 to fit (see thread on modifications - New van needs dealer to fit). You can get an awful lot of Calor refills for that!! and a long time to recoup especially if only weekending it in the UK.
You can fit Gasit for about half that cost..
but it's not just about running costs, if that were the only reason to buy it would talk a long time for most of us to benefit financially.
It's about the convenience of not having to lift heavy bottles, which gets harder as we get older, and when abroad being able to fill up at any Autogas outlet .. otherwise you have to buy different bottle and regulator for each country
I fitted a Gaslow system with auto change-over valve and an with external filler point..
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There can be no doubt that gaslow / gas fit etc are great and certainly have their place, but if you don't use much or you can manage to lift the bottles in and out, then they may not be for everyone.
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hi, yes i just think more should give the motorhome converters hassle for not building in larger gas bottle lockers .@vwalan what you say is perfectly true, but there no right or wrong way.. just what suits the individual..
for example, not many have space to carry a 19kg propane bottle .. which I have also used when staying on a site for a couple of months...
.. many ways to skin a cat..