X250 3.0 Ducato Wont Start. Any Common Causes?

[Bartyfixedit]

Hi all,

I did a 100 mile round trip on Friday, no problems. This morning the van wouldn't start.

I have tried both keys and both are being recognised by the ECU.

Battery is fully charged.

When you turn the ignition on, all is as normal. When you turn the key to the start position there is no click, and the engine does not turn over. The solenoid is definitely not closing as the dash warning lights are not dimming.

Any ideas where I should look first in the morning?

Thanks all,

David.

 

[gloworm]

Check out the earth lead, as you look down back of air filter housing there is an earth from body to engine,
Its common for this lead to corrode and break.
Eric

 

[DP+JAY]

Loose exiter wire on starter motor?
( that's the small wire that activates the solenoid) or bad earth?

 

[Deleted34567]

Remove the energising wire from solenoid, power it with +12ve and see if it cranks...(make sure it's out of gear).. If not then a starter motor/solenoid fault or earth or main power cable problem.
Best check is a volt meter between battery neg and engine, cranking should show less than 1 volt..... then
Voltmeter from battery positive and starter motor main feed and again should be less than 1 volt on crank.
Could be relay, ignition contact etc....even a battery ! Shouldn't be a problem for any competent auto elec guy if you cannot sort it.
Let us know the outcome.

 

[madmick1945]

could well be the ignition module

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[Bartyfixedit]

Thanks, I'll have a play tomorrow and let you know.

 

[MikeD]

I would have thought an alarm or immobiliser problem.

 

[Bartyfixedit]

Thanks very much for the kind suggestions, all fixed now.

Jay gets the coconut! The conductor inside the exciter wire at the solenoid was broken. Typical Fiat, a very skinny little wire in a position of high vibration.

Thanks again,

Cheers,

David.

 

[DP+JAY]

Glad it's fixed & thanks for keeping us updated.

 

[Augusta08]

Hello, I know this thread is 9 years old, but I have the same problem on my 08 plated x250 3.0ltr.

Is there a relay between the ignition key and the solenoid? Or does turning the key connect directly with the wire energising the solenoid? If so I might well have the same problem.

Cheers

Gerry

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[Gizmouk]

Once had similar with our X350 3.0Ltr.
In our case it was the battery quick connector that'd sprung open. It was still resting on the terminal, so all lights would come up on dash ok. Voltage would fold back as soon as key fully turned to crank engine.
Check engine battery - it's under passenger floor panel

 

[L' Hobo]

Hello, I know this thread is 9 years old, but I have the same problem on my 08 plated x250 3.0ltr.

Is there a relay between the ignition key and the solenoid? Or does turning the key connect directly with the wire energising the solenoid? If so I might well have the same problem.

Cheers

Gerry

As has been said already, check the immobilizer fuel cut off button in the passenger footwell and use an old jump lead clipped between the chassis and engine, to check out the earth. (Save you laying on the wet floor, although you might have to do that later if it works?)