What to do!!!! (1 Viewer)

[deleted-member02]

It's a classic, not a typical B Klasse, so lower spec'd (no alko chassis for example)
Personal opinion, that van's worth nearer 20k if in good condition... if in a poor condition, I'm thinking below 20k.

Spend half an hour googling, you'll soon see that 'classics' sell for significantly less. Think the dealer's trying it on.....

 

[chippy63]

Well i'm certainly gonna get pissed in it

Well Rob that so out of character for you .

ERM..... So how did it get from 2007 to 2003 ????
that is a trade description matter isn't it???

It was built in 2003 registered in 2007.


I did think about the newer style. having never driven one, i can't compare.

The biggest problem is the lack of vehicles with this layout., unless anybody knows different ?.

Karl

 

[Just smiffy]

Just go's to show about looking at vans because it looks OK in the pictures.....
Camera never lies eh..!

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[MR. FUSION]

Well Rob that so out of character for you .





It was built in 2003 registered in 2007.


I did think about the newer style. having never driven one, i can't compare.

The biggest problem is the lack of vehicles with this layout., unless anybody knows different ?.

Karl

Oh OK but where was it for 4 years ???

 

[barsteward]

Well Rob that so out of character for you .





It was built in 2003 registered in 2007.


I did think about the newer style. having never driven one, i can't compare.

The biggest problem is the lack of vehicles with this layout., unless anybody knows different ?.

Karl

Think you could probably have a different model converted cheaper. If that's the lay out you want value, ie "classic," matters not one jot.

 

[chippy63]

Think you could probably have a different model converted cheaper. If that's the lay out you want value, ie "classic," matters not one jot.

Strange you should mention that because i was just thinkin the same,a hymer b514 or b630, both have transverse rear beds would probably convert to a rear lounge.

Just go's to show about looking at vans because it looks OK in the pictures.....
Camera never lies eh..!

We thought the same from the pictures, i should of know we were gonna have problems as they never mentioned
most things till we got there, and on the web site they have the model no completely wrong!!.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[Minxy]

Personally I'd walk away ... too many things that you 'know' of to sort, never mind those that haven't cropped up yet ... something a bit sus about it being a 2003 registered as 2007 - 4 years is a VERY long time for a standard A class to be sitting around somewhere, especially a RHD Hymer ... are you sure the mileage is right and it hasn't done more?

If you have the reg no you can check out the MOT history since 2011 here which should have some mileage details on:

https://mot-history.net/

Just a thought, if you are still tempted ask the dealer for the details of the previous owners (copy of log book ideally) and ring up to check it out with them.

 

[TheBig1]

to be absolutely honest, its very overpriced and the poor condition of the inside and step, I would expect the rest has been neglected too. even cleaned up and repaired with missing bits replaced its only worth about £20k. my first impression is that somebody has lived in the van full time and ruined it by neglect

I buy vans needing tidying up and sell at a profit, but I would not buy that one. Dont be swayed by the rare layout, as they always turn up eventually

my advice is save your money and walk away

 

[barsteward]

Not often I agree with you Big un.......(only jokin) but I think your dead right.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[MR. FUSION]

Still think the dealer is misrepresenting the van by saying 2007 reg. Clearly a ploy to the punters.

 

[Minxy]

Personally I'd walk away ... too many things that you 'know' of to sort, never mind those that haven't cropped up yet ... something a bit sus about it being a 2003 registered as 2007 - 4 years is a VERY long time for a standar

Still think the dealer is misrepresenting the van by saying 2007 reg. Clearly a ploy to the punters.

Actually he's only stating the year it was registered so nothing wrong with that, it's not unusual to have a vehicle that is a previous year's model registered in the following year, but it is very unusual for it to be such a larger number of years in between. Whenever buying any vehicle, be it a car, motorhome, motorbike etc, you should always check the manufacture date and not just go by the registration date.

 

[MR. FUSION]

Personally I'd walk away ... too many things that you 'know' of to sort, never mind those that haven't cropped up yet ... something a bit sus about it being a 2003 registered as 2007 - 4 years is a VERY long time for a standar

Actually he's only stating the year it was registered so nothing wrong with that, it's not unusual to have a vehicle that is a previous year's model registered in the following year, but it is very unusual for it to be such a larger number of years in between. Whenever buying any vehicle, be it a car, motorhome, motorbike etc, you should always check the manufacture date and not just go by the registration date.

I know but you don't know that from the ad, to the untrained eye it might look like 2007 model for a cheap price. I am not sure its clear at what point the dealer divulged it was a 2003 model!!!

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[Minxy]

I know but you don't know that from the ad, to the untrained eye it might look like 2007 model for a cheap price. I am not sure its clear at what point the dealer divulged it was a 2003 model!!!

But he's not actually misrepresenting it which was what I was referring to, I'm not saying it's right, but it's not illegal either. There was/is someone on here advertising a very expensive MH as registered 4 years after it was built ... it was only when I spotted that the model year was very briefly mentioned that it was made clear ... they had no intention of misleading anyone as far as I know but obviously you have to do these checks yourself to be sure of exactly what you're buying ...

 

[TUCANO]

My opinion for what it's worth, walk away.

 

[TheWM]

I've given this some thought too.

What's your budget? As most things in life, buy the best that you can afford to now.

I had to up my budget from £15k to over £30k to get the Rapido. Whilst I had the money, I just had no idea that what I wanted (as you have found) could not be bought. Whilst initially I baulked at the thought, having found, imported and now used the MH, I couldn't be happier.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[irnbru]

I initially thought if the MH was good you should buy it but having now reading the rest of the thread it sounds as if its been neglected. I would walk. Spend the winter looking for something else.
Im sure the funsters reading this thread will alert you if they see one.

 

[Boringfrog]

Is the Hymer body from 2003? I've heard of Fiat chassis laying around for a year or so before getting a "body" fitted. 4 years standing, something ain't right.

 

[chippy63]

Using the hymer serial number gives build date of 2003.

Checked history on mot check all ok mileage consistant over the years,also has stamped service book,strange no cambelt change though.

I've given this some thought too.

What's your budget? As most things in life, buy the best that you can afford to now.

I had to up my budget from £15k to over £30k to get the Rapido. Whilst I had the money, I just had no idea that what I wanted (as you have found) could not be bought. Whilst initially I baulked at the thought, having found, imported and now used the MH, I couldn't be happier.

Where did you get your 9010 from in the end,and can I ask how much?

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[TheWM]

Where did you get your 9010 from in the end,and can I ask how much?

I went to Germany. It was up for 46500 euros, if I recall correctly. I didn't realise until I got there that it came with solar, satellite, air suspension, alloys, 2 tvs, winter and summer tyres and a whole host of other extras.

I'd never imported, or driven a MH that big in Europe, let alone LHD. So it was a bit daunting - but in actual fact it was all pretty easy. Even my missus now drives it as I broke my ankle and she has no problems. I'd even go as far as saying she enjoys it!

Do you have kids? We wanted the two lounge areas for the kids and it had to be under 6.5m to go on the drive. But I did see the rapidos sister model the 9048. If you don't have kids then this may work well for you. But then no rear lounge.

 

[Lenny HB]

Oh OK but where was it for 4 years ???

On a dealers forecourt, U shaped lounges not very popular in A Class vans.

 

[Jaws]

Cam belt on that model is 8 years or 80k miles.. so while it is due, it has not been needed to be replaced as yet

As for the year.. I have lost count of the amount of bikes I have seen that are ( say ) 1997 but not registered until well in to the naughty's.

Asan example

Big dealers with a big display often have a van / car / bike that does not sell for one reason or other.. A year goes by and the model gets superseded.
The dealer is then twixt a rock and a hard place.. Does he sell at a big discount or let it sit there filling up the forecourt and making his display look bigger ?

If the dealer can afford to sit on it he may as well..

Another possible is the vehicle was ordered by a firm for a customer then the firm went pop. It ended up completed but sitting in Hymer storage for yonks

In other words there are many reasons why a vehicle is late registered.
It is not a scam, nor misleading if the vehicle was not used or owned by anyone outside the trade before the registration date
It is in fact pretty standard practice

As to the OP.. I say buy it if you can get it at the right price
Speak to CareAvan.. I would think they could do the refit for about £800 with a bit of haggling
The step is a minor issue and will almost certainly be an easy fix
Dunno what to suggest about the bathroom to be honest.. but as you say, it is a common issue on Hymers and will certainly not affect how the toilet etc works !

All in all, I would go to the dealer, offer him the asking price less £3500 with a take it or leave it attitude

At that money you should be able to sort it all out and have change .. of said £3.5K

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[MR. FUSION]

On a dealers forecourt, U shaped lounges not very popular in A Class vans.

I dont think many dealers would have a MH standing around for 4 years, even they took a hit would they !!!!

 

[Jaws]

I think you would be surprised at how many times it does happen !!

A few years ago a close friend came across an unregistered Aston DB6 whilst in Poland.
Bought it for silly money, shipped it home and registered it as a new vehicle !

 

[Lenny HB]

I dont think many dealers would have a MH standing around for 4 years, even they took a hit would they !!!!

It happens, when we brought our first Hymer our dealer have a Tramp on a Rentault that was on offer as he had, had it a couple of years, a couple of years later it was still there. He attitude was someone will buy it .

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[chippy63]

Cam belt on that model is 8 years or 80k miles.. so while it is due, it has not been needed to be replaced as yet

As for the year.. I have lost count of the amount of bikes I have seen that are ( say ) 1997 but not registered until well in to the naughty's.

Asan example

Big dealers with a big display often have a van / car / bike that does not sell for one reason or other.. A year goes by and the model gets superseded.
The dealer is then twixt a rock and a hard place.. Does he sell at a big discount or let it sit there filling up the forecourt and making his display look bigger ?

If the dealer can afford to sit on it he may as well..

Another possible is the vehicle was ordered by a firm for a customer then the firm went pop. It ended up completed but sitting in Hymer storage for yonks

In other words there are many reasons why a vehicle is late registered.
It is not a scam, nor misleading if the vehicle was not used or owned by anyone outside the trade before the registration date
It is in fact pretty standard practice

As to the OP.. I say buy it if you can get it at the right price
Speak to CareAvan.. I would think they could do the refit for about £800 with a bit of haggling
The step is a minor issue and will almost certainly be an easy fix
Dunno what to suggest about the bathroom to be honest.. but as you say, it is a common issue on Hymers and will certainly not affect how the toilet etc works !

All in all, I would go to the dealer, offer him the asking price less £3500 with a take it or leave it attitude

At that money you should be able to sort it all out and have change .. of said £3.5K

Uphosltery wise,Tappers want 1600.00,careavan will probably be about the same

 

[Jaws]

Not if you speak to them and mention Fun.. Dunsters get a decent discount and CareAvan have consistently been significantly cheaper with quotes to us and the family over the past several years.

 

[Jaws]

LOL !! Dunsters !!!! What a wally.. I meant FUNSTERS !!!!

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}

 

[chippy63]

I did wonder,but quite liked it

So we have decided not to buy the hymer after all,lots of good advise here as always apart from rob1chelsea1 which is normal.

So if anybody knows of,or has either a hymer bc595, b514, b630 for sale let me know.

Cheers

 

[2bob]

Thats the one

WHAT ABOUT looking at this
Vehicle MOT History - GOV.UK
might help


Its not just the uphosltery, there is quite a few things to replace repair.

here it is http://www.nickwhalemotorhomes.co.uk/hymermobil-classic-648. The photos don't really show the bad bits.

 

[2bob]

1. Home
2. Caravans and Camping
3. Camper Vans
4. Hymer B514 garage model LHD lots of extras

New For Sale
Hymer B514 garage model LHD lots of extras
Advertised by Wellhouse, a Preloved member since Jul 2007.

^{_{Subscribers  do not see these advertisements}}