What do i need for a sat system (1 Viewer)

[Euro330]

Hi all. I`m not new to Mhming, I could do a loft conversion, strip a motorbike down and rebuild it, landscape your garden and a few other things, but i have not got a scooby about TV and satelite systems.
The MH has an external/internal sat point. The new LG TV has a sat point on the back. What do i need to get going. I had a new vision plus arial fitted so we are ok for tv.
I keep reading articles but the more i read the more bamboozled I get.
I believe I need a min 60cm dish as we are in Scotland and it is mostly Scottish highlands we tour. Area 2 System? Does that ring a bell?
Just looking for some laymans terms and explanations if you can help for 230v only , not bothered about 12v off grid stuff as yet.
Thanks. G

 

[Mikeco]

If you have a decent aerial fitted and gets you tv then why bother with a dish.

 

[pappajohn]

If your TV has an inbuilt sat receiver, look in your handbook, all you need is a dish... If it doesn't you need a sat receiver as well. .
Either a free standing dish and tripod (can get stolen and needs storage space) or a roof mounted system.
They come in two flavours, either automatic or manual..
Auto are just the push of a button and just wait a few seconds until it finds the satelitte, the manual is just that, you do the work.
Size for dish varies but a 60cm will be OK for all the UK and Northern Europe for UK channels.

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[Speve]

We have a sat dish but I wouldn’t bother if buying another van as lots of folk will tell you they stream most stuff now especially if you have unlimited data on your phone.?

 

[Euro330]

Streaming? LOL . I will take above on board, absorb it and take it from there. Cheers. G

 

[Parrot Face]

Most new LG tvs have an IPTV app. Pay the 5 quid to access that, then subscribe to one of the IPTV subscription services, can be 40 pound a year. Get a Mifi to stream these and then look on here for advice for an internet sim card deal and away you go. No additional weight with sat dish that might not work south of Loire. Both methods are costly but I much prefer the streaming method. Now wait for the responses and debate that will definitely help you make up your mind.

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[Euro330]

Think I will need to ask my young lads about some of that! Cheers. G

 

[pandas]

We have a sat dish but I wouldn’t bother if buying another van as lots of folk will tell you they stream most stuff now especially if you have unlimited data on your phone.?

Yes data is cheap now (unlimited data for some contracts) but if you want HD quality might be best go with a sat dish, 80cm. Also more accessible than mobile data signal if you are in poor reception areas.

 

[Gellyneck]

Been traipsing around Northern \ Western Scotland for 3-4 weeks (up as far as Orkney) and was without mobile and mifi (3) reception for about half the time.

We've got a Snipe 2 satellite system fitted (ex another Funster) and never been without reception. Terrestrial TV reception was a bit hit and miss with variable channel availability.
Funnily enough Euro330 Carnoustie was going to be our next stop but having to head home for a dental appointment.

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[Neil S]

Most new LG tvs have an IPTV app. Pay the 5 quid to access that, then subscribe to one of the IPTV subscription services, can be 40 pound a year. Get a Mifi to stream these and then look on here for advice for an internet sim card deal and away you go. No additional weight with sat dish that might not work south of Loire. Both methods are costly but I much prefer the streaming method. Now wait for the responses and debate that will definitely help you make up your mind.

I had no problem receiving BBC and ITV plus most of the mainstream channels right down to here in France on a recent trip using an 85cm automatic dish with Autoskew

 

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[clanjones]

It's a difficult one. If you are only planning on touring the Highlands then I know mobile reception can be poor.

I believe that sat dishes are on the way out and streaming using mobile data is the way to go but you need a mobile signal!

We use an Amazon firestick and our mobile phones to create a hotspot which the firestick then used to stream the media content. It has allowed me to watch the Rugby World cup whilst away in Europe. We are not big TV people when away but it is nice to have the option.

There are many options and as they say 'one shoe doesn't fit all'!

Good luck with your search.

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[MisterB]

you could always record movies, programme series and watch them on your travels, bulk buys of dvd's seem to always be available at car boots, auction/selling sites.

for me its roof mounted auto sat dish with roof mounted max view aerial along with motorhome wifi system with firestick/set top box. data cost is an issue for streaming but even that is coming down.

everyone will have their own particular requirements and needs, you just need to identify what yours are, concentrate on what you actually want to do FIRST rather then how to get it, when you know what you want, then look at how to achieve it.

 

[jezport]

We use streaming and freeview, not worth bothering with a sat dish anymore

 

[Gellyneck]

We use streaming and freeview,

Struggled with that over the last few weeks up north and given the OP is looking for a viable solution for there it might be a problem.

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[Off da Grid]

Get a cheap dish kit from amazon comes with the mounting hard ware cable and LNB.
I’ve got a small 300mm long aluminium pipe with a couple of angle brackets bolted to the bottom.
The dish bracket clamps to this, I either put the awning leg through it or bolt it to the solar panel mounting frame.
I use an app called Dish align on iPhone to point the dish at the Astra satellite.
Really easy.
Sometimes we can’t get a tv signal via the aerial, or in Europe the signal is sometimes scrambled so the sat dish is the way to go for freesat
I’ve also made an adapter so I can use the cable to connect to the site tv system if they have one.

 

[AndyPK]

The OP will definitely need a Zone 2 dish for Scotland, and they are twice the size of Zone 1 at 800x600mm, so storing it then becomes an issue, especially as the LNB and arm will be attached to it. Having said that, we use one and a Manhattan SX satellite receiver with our Manta tv, and it works well - and I can second the use of Dish Align too!

 

[Off da Grid]

With regard to the dish and arm with the LNB.
I’ve drilled out the holes that the dish attaches to the bracket and use dome head bolts with nuts, and also cut out the part of the dish below the hole where the arm fits through. The dish part then comes away.
This enables the arm to be folded up for storage I take the LNB off as well.
It doesn’t take long to reassemble and setup once we’re settled, about the time it takes to drink a large cup of tea.

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[AdrianP]

We have one of these setups with our travel trailer,



Only used it a couple of times so far but really easy to get up and running and when not in use, it collapses down nice and small for storage

I'll be looking into some way of mounting it to the rear ladder next but don't want to either mark the ladder or the pole the dish mounts to so finding something that doesn't have teeth is not easy... lol

 

[Lorryman100]

We have the oyster Cytrac sat dish fitted and it works a treat up here. As long as I can see the southern sky we have never had an issue with reception plus it’s been up and working in pretty strong wind whilst everyone else dropped theirs, Dunnet bay 60mph gusts. Streaming is an add on to the sat dish and digital aerial we carry but as you know coverage up here isn’t the best once you get off the main route/populated areas. You can get a portable system for a few pounds up to a few thousand for a roof mounted system, just depends on how deep your pockets are and where you will be doing most of your travelling which will dictate the size o& dish needed.HTH.

 

[pandas]

We have a sat dish but I wouldn’t bother if buying another van as lots of folk will tell you they stream most stuff now especially if you have unlimited data on your phone.?

In Scotland?

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[Gellyneck]

I'll be looking into some way of mounting it to the rear ladder next but don't want to either mark the ladder or the pole the dish mounts to so finding something that doesn't have teeth is not easy... lol

When I was looking at doing something similar (eventually fitted a Snipe 2 on the roof) I came across rubber lined double bend u-bolts that I thought may work. One "loop" around the pole and the other around the ladder tread. As I said never tried them but may be an option to look at. They were a bit like this. Don't ask where I saw them, though!
If you can't find something the right size I would guess a blacksmith could knock up something for you for not a lot. You could then fit "rubber" tubing over it.

 

[Burgo]

Does anyone know what models of sat receivers still available (I believe Icecrypt are no longer made) which are (1) 12v and (2) can receive the 'Satback' transmissions on Intelsat 907?

 

[ctc]

Does anyone know what models of sat receivers still available (I believe Icecrypt are no longer made) which are (1) 12v and (2) can receive the 'Satback' transmissions on Intelsat 907?

You could try a Humax recorder, they can record two channels and have a very good EPG.

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[Khizzie]

Struggled with that over the last few weeks up north and given the OP is looking for a viable solution for there it might be a problem.

I used my snipe 2 all over Scotland and got reception everywhere. Also use in France as far south as Bergerac, then it gets a tad iffy but it suits me as its a small inexpensive auto sat dish..

 

[Gellyneck]

I used my snipe 2 all over Scotland and got reception everywhere. Also use in France as far south as Bergerac, then it gets a tad iffy but it suits me as its a small inexpensive auto sat dish..

Exactly the same with our Snipe 2. No issues apart from a longer seek time in Torridon but it latched on after a minute or two.
Streaming and mobile was a no no over a wide area even with an internal add on aerial.

 

[Neil S]

Does anyone know what models of sat receivers still available (I believe Icecrypt are no longer made) which are (1) 12v and (2) can receive the 'Satback' transmissions on Intelsat 907?

the Comag 45 HD 12v / 240v can receive Intelsat 907 although you do need to upload the necessary firmware

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[AdrianP]

When I was looking at doing something similar (eventually fitted a Snipe 2 on the roof) I came across rubber lined double bend u-bolts that I thought may work. One "loop" around the pole and the other around the ladder tread. As I said never tried them but may be an option to look at. They were a bit like this. Don't ask where I saw them, though!
If you can't find something the right size I would guess a blacksmith could knock up something for you for not a lot. You could then fit "rubber" tubing over it.
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Thanks for that,

I did come accros this page

Ladder and Tripod Antenna Mount Options

So a quick look on Amazon has a few brackets, nuts & bolts on the way to see what I can mock up ready for next season

I did also find a system that is similar to the ones used for mounting a flag pole to a rear ladder but typically that's on my work PC and I can't find it at the moment... lol

 

[R1guy]

I know this is an old post however, if you want to be able to watch TV everywhere in the uk you will need satellite.
We toured the Scottish Highlands last November and as we always "wild" overnight we found on quite a few nights we had no phone signal or tv signal.
We are both on O2 phones.
So if you want to be sure of tv, satellite is far from dead and I myself have just bought a fully working snipe 3.