Venice in the summer?

[colyboy]

Freind of mine who is a funsters and is unable to go on line at present. Would like some information regarding a trip to Venice in the summer and later Lake Como.

He has a 4 ton MH.

Best route to take from Calais.

What will he need when he reaches the motorways in Switzland and Italy.

Any suggestions where he could visit etc etc

Colyboy

 

[chaser]

best to make for lido de jesolo, loadsof camp sites between there and the boats to take you over, just get a ticket from the campsite or any tobac for all inclusive daily transport on the number 5 bus and the water taxis about 15 euros takes you direct to st marks square.
as to route from calais , we went from france to italy through the mont blanc tunnel , expensive though think it was 50 euros last time we went but quite an experiance going in one end in snow and out the other in sunshine.

 

[Jaws]

About 2 miles North of Venice there is a campsite ( Rialto )that has a bus stop more or less right out side that goes all the way in to Venice
Co-ords are

• GPS: N 45° 29' 3''
  E 12° 16' 59,340''

Be aware...... Venice in the summer is VERY hot !
Also be careful of pickpockets. Last time I was there some scrot tried to whip my camera right out of my hand.. He only failed because I had a lanyard attached to my wrist

 

[normanandsue]

Check this out Venice is going to charge each tourist 10 euros to visit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46721456

 

[River gypsys]

I saw that reply too, bloody cheek

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[River gypsys]

I saw that report too, bloody cheek

 

[Jagtazman]

Freind of mine who is a funsters and is unable to go on line at present. Would like some information regarding a trip to Venice in the summer and later Lake Como.

He has a 4 ton MH.

Best route to take from Calais.

What will he need when he reaches the motorways in Switzland and Italy.

Any suggestions where he could visit etc etc

Colyboy

We went to lake garda a few years ago and caught a train to Venice for day

We travelled from Calais to Metz via Luxemburg then onto Lucerne Switzerland and into Italy.
It's all non toll roads.
Came back via mont blanc tunnel which is expensive expecially when you take tolls into account.

 

[Figaro]

At the Swiss boarder you will need to buy a vignette from the very polite and helpful guard.
I bought a 10 day pass valid for one year >3.5 ton. You need to fill it in for each day your in the country, cost was about £24.
Covers all passes and tunnels.
You can also buy other alternatives but can`t remember full details, day pass, week pass, monthly pass, annual pass probably.
We did a round about route to Venice then onto Croatia so you wouldn`t want our route.
I would second that Venice is very hot in Summer. (and crowded)
We stayed at Venezia Village at Mestre, bus out side for 3 euro into Venice. Good reasonably priced site.

 

[gus-lopez]

I saw that report too, bloody cheek

they charge in Barcelona .

 

[pandas]

The summer would not be our choice, temperature plus crowds, in 2016 we used a campsite that was brilliant for visiting central Venice plus the Islands of Burano and Murano which are a must. We stayed at Camping Miramare which was at the end of the peninsular opposite Venice near Punta Sabbiino. A short walk to the ferry that then gets you right into all the areas. Lots of campsites along the peninsular with loads of facilities but these are a long way to the ferries and if Venice is the destination better off at the end near the ferry.
Tried Campsite Serenissima which it the nearest to Venice on the mainland but then it was over crowded and the facilities were not that good at but this was 3 years ago.

If you are that way you should visit Ravenna and Bologna.

Plenty of options to travel there but travelling through Austria is expensive.

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[Puddleduck]

At the Swiss boarder you will need to buy a vignette from the very polite and helpful guard.
I bought a 10 day pass valid for one year >3.5 ton. You need to fill it in for each day your in the country, cost was about £24.
Covers all passes and tunnels.

That is what we did and the guard said it was the best value. You will need cash to pay for it and if you pay in Euros your change will be in Swiss Francs. I took Swiss Francs with me so don't know about the exchange rate.

Italy's motorways are mostly toll but very well maintained. There are different types of automatic toll - round cities (eg Milan) there are sections of fixed toll where you put your credit card in and it passes it back then you drive through the raised barrier - no ticket. Then some tolls issue tickets, press the big red button, don't put your card in, and you pay on exit either at an auto barrier or a manned barrier. The manned barriers are a better bet as you may be charged a lower rate.

AS (AutoStrada) = Motorway, mostly tolled, very well maintained
SS (SuperStrada) = A roads, usually free and maintenance generally good

Other roads vary from okay to awful

We drove down from Chiasso on the Swiss / Italian border to south of Pescara then across to the Rome Ring Road via Tivoli and up to Florence and back to Chiasso. Lots of free stops plus a couple of campsites.

Problems on the motorway system are put onto overhead gantry signs and it is worth understanding what they mean before you join the end of the queue. I understood one sign about a km down the road and we joined the queue and waited for 3 hours. Had I realised it was a 3 hour tailback I would have directed Martin off the autostrada but we didn't know. The notification isn't always much in advance of the problem

Note that wild camping in Switzerland is not allowed but there are camperstops, we loved the one near Rivera and will pass on details if you wish. We found "proper" sites in Switzerland are expensive not all people in Switzerland are rich, there is always a need for people to provide lower paid services and these people need somewhere to live, many live in static caravans on sites.

When we went through Basel there were a lot of roadworks but they may be completed by now.

Oh and the Italian driving style gets a bit of getting used to!!!!!!

 

[Figaro]

Problems on the motorway system are put onto overhead gantry signs and it is worth understanding what they mean before you join the end of the queue.

This is a problem we encountered in several countries when not speaking the language. Problems were mostly diversions for road closures and not serious hold ups, but still rather confusing.
I'm sure I paid for Swiss vignette on revolut card. So maybe depends on the border crossing used.

 

[Puddleduck]

I'm sure I paid for Swiss vignette on revolut card. So maybe depends on the border crossing used.

I'd been told cash only before we went so didn't look for a card machine. Maybe things have changed since I was given the information 18 months ago (could well be) - we did our trip last September / October.

I found the Swiss guards very helpful and with perfect English even though I did try my French.

Again I find most people helpful if you do at least try to say "hello", "please" and "thank you" in their language. In France I always say that I speak a very small amount of French like an "comme une petite enfant" and that usually gets a nice response.

 

[pandas]

At the Swiss boarder you will need to buy a vignette from the very polite and helpful guard.
I bought a 10 day pass valid for one year >3.5 ton. You need to fill it in for each day your in the country, cost was about £24.
Covers all passes and tunnels.
You can also buy other alternatives but can`t remember full details, day pass, week pass, monthly pass, annual pass probably.
We did a round about route to Venice then onto Croatia so you wouldn`t want our route.
I would second that Venice is very hot in Summer. (and crowded)
We stayed at Venezia Village at Mestre, bus out side for 3 euro into Venice. Good reasonably priced site.

just to clarify is >3.5 up to 3.5 ton or over 3.5 as I have seen < 3.5 and 3.5> so not quite sure?

 

[Dorwyn]

best to make for lido de jesolo, loadsof camp sites between there and the boats to take you over, just get a ticket from the campsite or any tobac for all inclusive daily transport on the number 5 bus and the water taxis about 15 euros takes you direct to st marks square.
as to route from calais , we went from france to italy through the mont blanc tunnel , expensive though think it was 50 euros last time we went but quite an experiance going in one end in snow and out the other in sunshine.

It's an experience going through the San Gothard with an overheating van with a u/s radiator fan! One of those memorable motorhoming events. Oh the joys of motorhomes

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[Figaro]

I'd say >3.5 is over 3.5 ton and < 3.5 is less than 3.5 ton.