Van will not lock! (1 Viewer)

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The sliding door is shut firmly. No amount of pulling will open it. The release on the inside does nothing either. It's stuck shut.

This wouldn't be a problem as I could enter via drivers door, however the sliding door is not catching at the bottom left corner.

Therefore "rear doors open" warning message and light are on on the dash. Sometimes it beeps at me too when I'm driving, which isn't at all maddening. 🙈

Because the idiot computer (have I mentioned that I love this modern 💩?) wrongly believes that the sliding door is open pressing the lock button on the key no longer locks the drivers and passenger door. The key also refuses to turn in the driver's door lock. It must be connected to the super computer! 🙄

So I'm stuck with a van with locked back and stuck shut sliding door but drivers cab doors that will not lock at all.

I'm away at the moment and this has just happened. Very wary about leaving the van while I go hiking up a mountain etc with the doors unlocked.

Not too worried about sleeping tonight because I'm in the middle of a deserted pub field. But tomorrow may be an issue.

Any ideas?

As a tempory measure I may buy a chain to fix around the passenger door handle and seat frame. I already have one I fit around the drivers door and steering wheel. This would mean leaving and entering the van via the back door, which also means climbing over the four foot hight double bed at the back. Which isn't easy, isn't ideal in wet walking gear and frankly looks dodgy as you like to passers by.

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take the door card off the inside of the sliding door and release the latch. Open the door, clean and lubricate the mechanism and shut the door with a firm push at the back edge. If this still fails to work, clean the contacts on the edge of the door and the pillar
 

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oh and you should be able to lock the drivers door from inside, close passenger door and lock with the key, bypassing central locking

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Where is the switch that operates the internal van light for the sliding door? Can you get to it? Remove wire from it, or shove some packing in between it and the door to press it. Then it will think side door is shut.

What van is it?
 
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Sounds like the cable has come away from the door handle mechanism it enters the door at bottom of the sliding door it’s at the passenger door end on most vans.
As The big1 said take of the door card and you should be able to access it.
Let us know how you get on to help others.
 
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take the door card off the inside of the sliding door and release the latch. Open the door, clean and lubricate the mechanism and shut the door with a firm push at the back edge. If this still fails to work, clean the contacts on the edge of the door and the pillar

While I have the tools with me to do this I don't much fancy getting it wrong so the door doesn't shut. I've decided to leave it until I get home and lock using chains.

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oh and you should be able to lock the drivers door from inside, close passenger door and lock with the key, bypassing central locking

Not sure what you mean by this. Where is the key slot on the inside?
 
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Where is the switch that operates the internal van light for the sliding door? Can you get to it? Remove wire from it, or shove some packing in between it and the door to press it. Then it will think side door is shut.

What van is it?
It's a Peugeot boxer 2013
 
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Let us know how you get on to help others
Will do when I have a go at it at home. I have the tools with me but don't want to get it wrong or break anything so the sliding door doesn't shut at all. Wouldn't be safe to drive it home.

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The key will not turn inside the drivers door lock.
If you normally lock the van with key fob and not the key the door barrel is probably just stiff try sraying it with lots of penetrating oil and then try gentle turning it with key but don't force it or you risk breaking the key
 
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If you normally lock the van with key fob and not the key the door barrel is probably just stiff try sraying it with lots of penetrating oil and then try gentle turning it with key but don't force it or you risk breaking the key

Thanks. Will give it a try.
 
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A quick update.

The key will not turn in the key hole in the drivers door. This is despite soaking it several times in WD40. Any more pressure and I'm scared I'll snap the key.

I discovered the central locking would work if I pressed on the lower right hand corner of the sliding door from the outside as I hit the lock button.

However when I next went out it even this stopped working then. Not even any rapid flashing to let you know it hasn't locked! I assumed the battery had gone in the key. Replaced the battery but still nothing happens. Tried another battery and a whole new key from Amazon and still nothing.

I am currently locking the cab by putting a chain around the two drivers cab doors and a padlock and entering and exiting via the sliding door.

It's turning into a right pain in the ****. I need to get it right because I'm going full time in it my mid September. But I cannot work it out!

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Have you locked it from the inside my whooshbang when the lock is pushed down overrides the zapper lock
 
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Have you locked it from the inside my whooshbang when the lock is pushed down overrides the zapper lock

Thanks for the reply! :giggle: The lock on the inside (button on the center of the dash) doesn't do anything either. I think this is because I cannot push the button while pushing on the bottom corner of the sliding door? Or perhaps the central locking is knackered?
 

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No the push down button on the door or is your van too new to have one

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No the push down button on the door or is your van too new to have one

It's a 2013. I think it may be too new to have one. I cannot see one anyway. All the problems I have had have been related to the electrics or onboard "supercomputer". 💩
 
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Get some silicone spray and spray anywhere you have sprayed WD40 as WD is not good for any plastic pieces and drys out the metal components thus possibly causing damaging friction. Silicone spray will lubricate and protect.
Sorry can’t help with your door issue though.
 

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My apologies for critiizing, but never ever use wd40 on a lock, especially a plastic bodied one. It causes the plasic to swell totally rining the lock an jamming it solid. Only ever use graphite spray or powder

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My apologies for critiizing, but never ever use wd40 on a lock, especially a plastic bodied one. It causes the plasic to swell totally rining the lock an jamming it solid. Only ever use graphite spray or powder

If you know what you're talking about I'd like you to tell me because I'm fairly clueless. So no need to apologise.
 
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Still having no joy fixing this issue.

I've tried packing the sensor, cleaning it and nothing is working.

The beeping is driving me crazy and locking the front doors with a chain through the handles of both doors and exiting via the sliding door is very tiresome!

This is not ideal because I'll be going full time from 27th September!

Anyone got any ideas?

In an ideal world I would just bypass / disconnect the whole warning system. I don't need stupid computers to tell me if a door is open. I have eyes and ears and would feel the draft! Is bypassing the system possible?
 

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It sounds like you've tried most things that most people would have done, it's a very long shot but I'd disconnect the battery for a while and hope it resets the 'stupid' computer.

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It sounds like you've tried most things that most people would have done, it's a very long shot but I'd disconnect the battery for a while and hope it resets the 'stupid' computer.

I've disconnectes the battery and will leave it for a couple of hours. It's worth a try. Thanks for the reply. It's appreciated.
 

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I've disconnectes the battery and will leave it for a couple of hours. It's worth a try. Thanks for the reply. It's appreciated.
I've disconnectes the battery and will leave it for a couple of hours. It's worth a try. Thanks for the reply. It's appreciated.
Be a rebel and connect it back up now, if it doesn't reset now it ain't going to.
 
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The soft close mech on our Citroen relay (2015) PVC were loose and gave identical symptoms, on one of our first trips. Would not lock from any key or button. Simply tightening the Allen key bolts allowed the door to be pulled in adequately to activate the switches/ contacts, our problem solved.

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pull the fuse on the warning buzzer, I usuall get out of the whoosh bang door
 
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The soft close mech on our Citroen relay (2015) PVC were loose and gave identical symptoms, on one of our first trips. Would not lock from any key or button. Simply tightening the Allen key bolts allowed the door to be pulled in adequately to activate the switches/ contacts, our problem solved.

I don't think my van has one of these. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

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