Tram Lining

[Clemmo]

Just driven 375 miles south from Oban in Scotland.
After Glasgow largely motorway in the shape of M6.

On the inside lane where the M/way was clearly older we experienced at times what I can only describe as "Tram Lining"...
where the Moho drifts a little and trys to follow the worn tracks. ( I have experienced this before on a motorbike and in a BMW with super low profile tyres)

Anyone else get this?

Any fixes?..or ride it out?

(Ducato chassis, 7.5m, 16k miles)

Cheers Clemmo

 

[glenn2926]

I’ve sometimes felt it. I wondered if it’s because the front and rear wheels are different distances apart. I found driving slightly out of your natural position within your lane helped.

 

[Charente16]

M4 Westbound inside lane same problem. Semi - Air on last visit seemed to cure it, or maybe they repaired the road; Pigs' might fly!

Robert

 

[Clemmo]

I’ve sometimes felt it. I wondered if it’s because the front and rear wheels are different distances apart. I found driving slightly out of your natural position within your lane helped.

I thought the same re axle width but really dont know?
..and agree re positioning.
Unfortunately much of the M6 is becoming Smart Motorway and four lanes.... sometimes very narrow lanes with little option to vary.

 

[glenn2926]

I thought the same re axle width but really dont know?
..and agree re positioning.
Unfortunately much of the M6 is becoming Smart Motorway and four lanes.... sometimes very narrow lanes with little option to vary.

I forgot about the smart section as it’s south and I very rarely go south.

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[The Coops]

Its all to do with the width of the front and rear axles some vans, CCS, ALKO are more prone than others (PVC) and the weight of LGV's that use the motorway overweight and damage the carriageway, air suspension helps but does not cure it and at the cost of over £1,000,000 per mile to resurface I don't think we are a priority!

 

[Al-Di]

think like the bmw driver and stay in lane 3

 

[PeteH]

Been an increasing issue, since the Allowed max mass for Large trucks was increased. It was suposed to be offset by limiting axle weights. (3 as oposed to 2 axle trailers). On some Roads you can actually see the tramlines in the carriageway. The latest idea, of mixing shredded tyres into the Tarmac Mix is alleged to assist in this. I did notice that these "new" road surfaces are quieter though?

 

[scally]

This happens on the A12 & A14 periodically both main routes to the port Of Felixtowe. Resurfacing does take place but not so periodically

 

[Geistguy]

Advice if on a motorbike - avoid them ! Don't ask how I know. Stick to the middle or outside lane even if not entirely legal

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[gus-lopez]

nd the weight of LGV's that use the motorway overweight and damage the carriageway, air suspension helps but does not cure it and at the cost of over £1,000,000 per mile to resurface I don't think we are a priority!

They can't be that much overweight that they can cause that sort of damage. It used to be prolific on the M5 . It is sheer bad road installation.If it was anything else as claimed like temperature causing asphalt to spread etc. it would be prevalent here where the road surface in summer can easily be in the high 50's.
It is lack of basic installation to not only support 44Tonnes but have a 50% capacity in reserve & with asphalt that doesn't spread. If it can barely support the standard weight of an artic the road surface will be damaged at the first sign of a mobile crane ,many of which run at 75 Tonnes & upwards.
You will rarely find road here where the surface has tram lined.

 

[Vipar]

Sorry mate I was probably one of the HGV driver who helped to cause what you call tramlines, ruts in the surface. The real reason it that the dodgy contractors did not put enough foundation footings down before the final surface. Eventually sinking and causing the above.
Don’t forget that when Motorways were built lorries GTW was 30 tons ish now it’s 40+ tons ish

 

[Ivory55]

If you look in Tesco etc where the cars parking in exactly the same place every time you can see the ruts in the tarmac. It’s more volume of traffic than overweight on the roads all running on the same bit of tarmac.

 

[The Coops]

True but some LGV ( Irish) were well over weight and we even found some bent and cracked chassis rails on intercepts as they were that overloaded ( CH**ter Roadways prime candidates ) And who knows how many we missed on other operators risking it , how many drivers here pre tacho will admit to *dropping the line* if pulled over? Filling in the log book on the way in to the layby? It was all a great big game! If caught hard luck but chances were on your side Even when the first tachographs fitted it was still a sport to shut the tacho when pulled not realising that the data did not line up if you got pulled by a traffic police officer that knew what he was doing! All driven by money and the need for profit!
Anyway back to the topic and yes contractors skimping on spec on road building but McAlpines were twice the price of other builders but roads laid lasted three times as long

 

[bigwood]

Part of the M180 is bad for tram lines. My Transit 150 used to sit with one pair of wheels in a tram line and run straight. The trailer being wider used to swap sides. It was bit unnerving feeling the trailer swap sides, worse when it was empty.
The only way out of it was to run with the trailer wheels on the rumble strip or if it was quiet at night on the white line.
I have seen a few caravans get caught by the tram lines. Not a problem if the tug was big enough to prevent it swaying but lighter cars can’t always stop it going wrong. I recovered a caravan that swayed out and clipped a curtain sider. It lost badly.

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