Taking your dog to Europe

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Copied from a press article regarding Michael Goves announcement yesterda Andrew Mitchell is an Conservative MP in South London (just for information)

Andrew Mitchell wanted to know if his doggy would still be able to come on holiday with him to France. “Of course,” said the Govester. Just so long as the pooch didn’t mind travelling alone four months later as that’s how long it would now take to clear quarantine.

 

[DBK]

Copied from a press article regarding Michael Goves announcement yesterda Andrew Mitchell is an Conservative MP in South London (just for information)

Andrew Mitchell wanted to know if his doggy would still be able to come on holiday with him to France. “Of course,” said the Govester. Just so long as the pooch didn’t mind travelling alone four months later as that’s how long it would now take to clear quarantine.

There were numerous threads about this last year. The four months is if the dog doesn't currently have a rabies vaccination. From memory three months after the vaccination a blood test is taken and if the result detects anti-bodies the dog can travel one month later. A fit to travel certificate is also needed, issued not more than 8 days before travel. The pet passport is still required for return to UK. The blood test is a one off providing vaccination boosters are given at the recommended interval so subsequent trips only need the fit to travel certificate.

 

[chrisinplymouth]

That’s my understanding as well.

 

[Tommo and Ca]

Going through this at the moment.
Rabies jab or booster given.
Blood test 30 days later.
Wait for result.
If antibodies are present then you need to wait 3 months before you travel.
Not more than 10 days before travel vet needs to issue a certificate (AHC)
If antibodies not present start all over again.
If you keep up to date with rabies jabs then only an AHC required before each overseas trip.
Isn't Brexit great........

 

[John Barrett]

Going through this at the moment.
Rabies jab or booster given.
Blood test 30 days later.
Wait for result.
If antibodies are present then you need to wait 3 months before you travel.
Not more than 10 days before travel vet needs to issue a certificate (AHC)
If antibodies not present start all over again.
If you keep up to date with rabies jabs then only an AHC required before each overseas trip.
Isn't Brexit great........

We've been taking pets to Europe for 20 years and the precautions are much the same post Brexit. It's a small price to pay for my freedom...

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[DBK]

Going through this at the moment.
Rabies jab or booster given.
Blood test 30 days later.
Wait for result.
If antibodies are present then you need to wait 3 months before you travel.
Not more than 10 days before travel vet needs to issue a certificate (AHC)
If antibodies not present start all over again.
If you keep up to date with rabies jabs then only an AHC required before each overseas trip.
Isn't Brexit great........

Yes, that's it. I shouldn't trust my memory. As Eric Morecombe might have said I had all the right checks but not necessarily in the right order.

 

[Shrimp]

Jeremy Vine on Radio2 went thru it all yesterday and to be honest I think a lot of people will not be taking their 2/3/4 dogs to France/Spain etc, it will cost a fortune and take about 4 months or longer to complete, and that’s just the English side!
We just have to hope we get some sort of deal but Boris doesn’t want us going abroad, he wants the money we spend to stay in the country so I can’t see anything happening to help us!
I suppose it is a small price to pay but if you’re on a restricted budget it’s going to make a big hole!

 

[Neil Bedwin]

This is how I brought my two Labs back from Oman 6 years ago so not a lot has changed.

They had the anti-rabies injection. Then 3 months later an anti bodies test. That was ok so they flew to Heathrow. I was on the same plane so collected my hire car and drove around to the Animal Reception Centre. 15 min wait while the vet checked the paperwork and we were off....

My friends dog came back a year earlier and had to have 3 months solitary confinement. The 3 months is actually 90 days and as his dog was injected in Feb it was 3 calendar months but not 90 days!

 

[Rachelc]

on this point, my dog had her rabies jab back in March before the lockdown. She hasn't had an anti body test and has been issued a passport and we travel under the current rules shortly. Is it worth me getting the anti body test and AHC now or do I wait until just before the new rules come in? As my understanding is that the rabies jab lasts 3 years?

 

[Leakylunar]

Think our dog will go broke kennels now for our 2 weeks holiday, if I was retired the dog would definitely go with us to spend longer away.

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[DBK]

on this point, my dog had her rabies jab back in March before the lockdown. She hasn't had an anti body test and has been issued a passport and we travel under the current rules shortly. Is it worth me getting the anti body test and AHC now or do I wait until just before the new rules come in? As my understanding is that the rabies jab lasts 3 years?

I would get it done now. The longer you wait after vaccination the greater the chance of the dog failing the blood test. If they do fail you have to start the cycle again.

 

[Rachelc]

I would get it done now. The longer you wait after vaccination the greater the chance of the dog failing the blood test. If they do fail you have to start the cycle again.

Thanks, I'll contact the vet now, she's due an appointment on Thursday anyway so I may as well see if they can do it then.

 

[Rachelc]

Thanks, I'll contact the vet now, she's due an appointment on Thursday anyway so I may as well see if they can do it then.

And just assuming that all is good and I get the health cert (AHC) how long is that certificate valid for?

 

[DBK]

And just assuming that all is good and I get the health cert (AHC) how long is that certificate valid for?

For ever if you keep the vaccinations up to date.

 

[TCG]

Am i right in assuming that all this is post Dec 31st. and travelling this year is the same as usual ?

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[Googlebot]

Won’t all this be unnecessary when we get the deal we were promised?

 

[Lucky]

The AHC is valid for 10 days, I think.

 

[IanRJ]

For ever if you keep the vaccinations up to date.

My understanding is that the AHC will only be necessary if you return after 31/12/2020, and then only if UK becomes an 'unlisted' country for Pet Travel. Returning before that date; the usual Pet Passport is sufficient, assuming the rabies is up to date in the passport and the Tapeworm is done too.

Also, last time I looked (several months ago) the AHC give you 10 days to leave the country and it only lasts for 4 months from the date of issue?

Did I get that wrong?

 

[Rachelc]

Won’t all this be unnecessary when we get the deal we were promised?

can't see that happening.

 

[Rachelc]

My understanding is that the AHC will only be necessary if you return after 31/12/2020, and then only if UK becomes an 'unlisted' country for Pet Travel. Returning before that date; the usual Pet Passport is sufficient, assuming the rabies is up to date in the passport and the Tapeworm is done too.

Also, last time I looked (several months ago) the AHC give you 10 days to leave the country and it only lasts for 4 months from the date of issue?

Did I get that wrong?

I need to look into this further if it is you can only travel 10 days after the AHC is issued then how can you book anything, as you won't know if the jab has been successful. Or can the AHC be issued anytime after the antibody test has taken place?

Gosh this is complicated. This and the Schengen rules don't make life easy.

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[Googlebot]

can't see that happening.

Oven ready Johnson said. Why the change now?

Given we are going out December and returning January this is going to be a right pain the backside! Better book an appointment at the vets September....

 

[Northernraider]

I thought this was for taking dogs IN to europe after 31st December? ....thats what I was told.

I'm planning to take mine over in September and be returning uk end of march 2021
I was told that returning to the UK would still just be rabies vaccination in date and worming as it is now.

 

[IanRJ]

I need to look into this further if it is you can only travel 10 days after the AHC is issued then how can you book anything, as you won't know if the jab has been successful. Or can the AHC be issued anytime after the antibody test has taken place?

Gosh this is complicated. This and the Schengen rules don't make life easy.

I believe that it is anytime after the antibody test is proven!

 

[Rachelc]

I believe that it is anytime after the antibody test is proven!

I'll ask the vet to confirm on Thursday.

 

[Wissel]

Won’t all this be unnecessary when we get the deal we were promised?

I know we shouldn't mention the Jan 1st event, but just moving goods manufactured in Northern Ireland to England isn't sorted yet (a lot of the goods I sell are manufactured there, so following closely).

I was planning a few months in Northern Ireland next year as have friends there and figured this would be easy with our dog as still the UK. Think I'll wait before making plans as now thinking it may be the same 4 month rule as (currently) looking like for EU travel

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[Lucky]

I appreciate the following isn't for everyone but before the transition period ends (i.e. 31/12/2020) I intend to obtain new EU Pet Passports from a French vet.

The process in Europe is quicker (1 month instead of 3 months wait after successful blood test) and, based on my experience of French vets, probably cheaper too.

I'll report back to let you know how I get on.

 

[chrisinplymouth]

Out of interest what are you all paying for blood to be taken and lab report. Mine was £90. Interested to see the variance across the country.

 

[Tykatem]

I thought this was for taking dogs IN to europe after 31st December? ....thats what I was told.

I'm planning to take mine over in September and be returning uk end of march 2021
I was told that returning to the UK would still just be rabies vaccination in date and worming as it is now.

Correct

Bringing your pet dog, cat or ferret to Great Britain

Bringing pets into Great Britain: pet passports, Great Britain pet health certificates, microchipping, rabies vaccinations, travelling with assistance dogs.

www.gov.uk

Pete

 

[Tykatem]

I need to look into this further if it is you can only travel 10 days after the AHC is issued then how can you book anything, as you won't know if the jab has been successful. Or can the AHC be issued anytime after the antibody test has taken place?

Gosh this is complicated. This and the Schengen rules don't make life easy.

When you can use a certificate
Your pet must arrive in an EU country within 10 days of the certificate being issued. It’s valid for 4 months for further travel within the EU.

You should get the person who checks your pet when you arrive in the EU to sign and stamp the certificate.

Bringing your pet dog, cat or ferret to Great Britain

Bringing pets into Great Britain: pet passports, Great Britain pet health certificates, microchipping, rabies vaccinations, travelling with assistance dogs.

www.gov.uk

Pete

 

[Potty]

For ever if you keep the vaccinations up to date.

I think you will find that the AHC is required for each trip and has to be issued within 10 days of travel. The Titre test certificate (the test for rabies antibodies) last for the dogs lifetime, as long as vaccinations are kept up to date.

Out of interest what are you all paying for blood to be taken and lab report. Mine was £90. Interested to see the variance across the country.

There are only two labs in the U.K. who are authorised to do the Titre test. The one our vet used charges £ 55 + VAT for the test and the certificate. Anything extra is the vet’s charge. £90 sounds pretty reasonable. Have paid more than that just for an emergency consultation!

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