Stolen from drive – what happened next?

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So, it's been nearly 4 weeks since the theft, what's happened? Well, very little so far, no feed back from the underwriter, a little from the insurer. Tales of woe from them, van thefts are running at 3 times that of previous. They appear to be targeting vans in the £35-£45,000 region, on the basis that the more expensive vans have to be fitted with high-tech security devices. But to me, I wonder what difference a loud alarm makes against these brazen thugs. Having spoken with motorhome dealers, it is amazing the extent of this problem. One dealer says they were targeted by thieves who took 3 new unregistered motorhomes away on a large low loader. Apparently they were booked on a ferry a few hours later, and the vans were out of the country before the theft was discovered. They had cctv coverage, but the thieves wore gloves, masks, hats, were dressed in grey and so on, so the police had nothing to go on. The same dealer said that the thieves broke into a building near Bristol and took the country's main decoding device for Fiat/Citroen/Pugs. So vehicles that had previously been safe, were now no longer. This device was visible on the cctv, it was fairly heavy, inside a bag hanging on straps over the shoulder. Open the door, access the OBD port, read the main system and you have control of the van. It took seconds. I have heard many similar tales, and it makes you realise what you are up against. These guys are serious, if they want your van, they can take it. I have often thought how easy it is to get into a normal motorhome. With standard plastic windows, all it takes is a small jemmy or strong screwdriver, shove it into the corner, give it a twist and the windows pops open. Or a screwdriver in the drivers door keyhole. If there are chains, they come equipped with cutters. They can use powerful portable rechargeable tools where necessary. Basically, you are defenceless. The response I got from the police, was just that, no hope. They said the thieves would have come equipped with suitable cloned number plates, nothing to trip any ANPR devices, they'd have left going down country roads to avoid detection anyway. They said that there is little chance of them finding our van. The network of thieves involved is huge and they are well organised. I found that thoroughly demoralising.
I decided to buy a cheap runabout car, since after the theft we have no wheels. I thought I'd best go to my van insurer to continue the relationship. Obviously, you have to declare that there is an on going claim. They knew that anyway. Plus I had turned 80 just after the theft.To insure a simple basic runabout, he quoted something in the region of £1380 pa. Go elsewhere he said, we specialise in motorhomes and can't compete. So I went onto Go Compare and similar comparison websites. I got some reasonable quotes, and when I contacted the 3 lowest companies they each said, sorry, you don't match our profile. Ah, but I declared the age on the quote forms. We wouldn't have accepted you anyway, they said. In the end I went to a specialist company, they quoted just over £500. In spite of the fact that I have not made an insurance claim in more than 35 years. Apparently that has no bearing. The underwriter in my claim did say there would be a premium increase, so I asked the broker for a quote for the next van, to see if there was a motorhoming future for me. That was about £1100 pounds. So right now I feel I've had a thorough kicking. And also this is a warning to others who will undoubtedly suffer similarly.
Keep safe out there!
 
Sorry police should be targeting, burglaries, crimes of violence physical and sexual. I accept the upset of having a vehicle stolen but other crimes of violence need to come first.
 
Sorry police should be targeting, burglaries, crimes of violence physical and sexual. I accept the upset of having a vehicle stolen but other crimes of violence need to come first.
This is a man who worked all his life to get his van probibly broken hearted full of memories that van.
The man is a victim of crime vehicle stolen is still a crime
Bill

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Sorry police should be targeting, burglaries, crimes of violence physical and sexual. I accept the upset of having a vehicle stolen but other crimes of violence need to come first.
It would help if just now and again the police actually caught any of these villains and when they did the courts actually dealt with them.

My experience has been even when you catch thrives red handed, identify them at parade, they still get off.

It's like they are just laughing at us.
 
Sorry police should be targeting, burglaries, crimes of violence physical and sexual. I accept the upset of having a vehicle stolen but other crimes of violence need to come first.
I don't think it's either or. You can't just ignore such wholesale thievery. It's a huge problem, the thieves are just laughing at society, as gpat says.
 
It's a sub culture where such behaviour is acceptable, clever and even laudable.

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Sorry police should be targeting, burglaries, crimes of violence physical and sexual. I accept the upset of having a vehicle stolen but other crimes of violence need to come first.
Yes you've got to realise that the police is short of officers and are doing their best driving around the motorways or sitting in their cars on the side of the roads trying to catch the real criminals, the motorists.
 
This is a man who worked all his life to get his van probibly broken hearted full of memories that van.
The man is a victim of crime vehicle stolen is still a crime
Bill
He'll get financial compensation. Victims of serious crimes won't.
 
I'd happily pay more taxes for more Police officers, and I'd be happy with "zero tolerance" to crime. I'm sure everyone else, with a vote, in the country would agree.................NOT!

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Sorry police should be targeting, burglaries, crimes of violence physical and sexual. I accept the upset of having a vehicle stolen but other crimes of violence need to come first.
I have found the police seem more concerned with possibly racist tweets than catching crooks
 
Sorry police should be targeting, burglaries, crimes of violence physical and sexual. I accept the upset of having a vehicle stolen but other crimes of violence need to come first.
I'm not saying they should be tracking down stolen MH's all day everyday but they do special operations where they specifically target uninsured drivers or unsecured loads etc.

Why not get together with port authorities and have a day or 2 checking out all the motorhomes going on to ferries. Check paperwork, VIN numbers, check for false plates. I'm sure they have other methods of checking legitimacy of ownership.

It doesn't sound too far fetched to me.

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When we got our first motorhome in 2018 after 25 years of caravanning we were suprised the the 2016 Swift was not registered with CRIS as all new caravans are and have been for years. I retro fitted the updated Vin Chip on the Swift and now the Hymer.

I heard that some manufacturers are now registering new motorhomes with Cris, but it is another small deterrent for the criminals.
 
It would help if just now and again the police actually caught any of these villains and when they did the courts actually dealt with them.

My experience has been even when you catch thrives red handed, identify them at parade, they still get off.

It's like they are just laughing at us.
Quite often they DO catch them, but the CPS refuse to prosecute.
 
Yes you've got to realise that the police is short of officers and are doing their best driving around the motorways or sitting in their cars on the side of the roads trying to catch the real criminals, the motorists.
Or sitting behind computers trawling through people's twitter feeds for any upsetty words.
 
Sorry police should be targeting, burglaries, crimes of violence physical and sexual. I accept the upset of having a vehicle stolen but other crimes of violence need to come first.
Sorry I like your posts but can’t agree with you on this one. Just because it’s property, to someone who’s saved up for the dream it’s very important.
Phil
 
As long as this goes unchecked, we all will have ever increasing premiums. As Yorick intimates, I am very lucky to have such a lovely van. But I should not be punished because some sub-human saw an opportunity and, literally took it. The fact is, that after 35 or so years of probriety, I am being punished for the action of career reprobates.
 
And it will probably be an “organised gang crime” not just a couple of yocal locals
who will most likely have connections in other types of organised crime,therefore in my opinion it defintely needs stamping on .what about if dorwyn had disturbed them or tried to stop them…..then it might have progressed to a serious violent crime …………look how his life has been effected now struggling to get insurance and hasnt got his motorhome could be the end of his motorhoming hobby.
they are despicable to££ers

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