Smarty Unlimited Sim - Is It Really Unlimited?

[TheBows]

I have heard that some so called 'unlimited' data sim cards actually have a limit. I have just used a Smarty unlimited sim and have consumed 201gb in the monthly period. Absolutely no problems. Cost £20 for the month. (Sometimes can be had for less.) Excellent value! Has anyone consumed more data with Smarty?

 

[Googlebot]

Wow! That’s some use.

We are with Lebara on Vodafone as we wanted to be away from Three for a second chance (our phones are with Three). It costs £25 a month and we haven’t been capped or slowed down.

Even with our kids watching YouTube and TikTok we only use about 150GB and that’s on an extended holiday in the Summer.

 

[PhilandMena]

All well and good for the UK !

 

[Googlebot]

All well and good for the UK !

Did anyone expect any different? Annoying though, especially as they all said they wouldn’t initially.

The Government could easily pass legislation to sort it, bit like the farce that when abroad you get amazing coverage as you are using every networks masts.

 

[PhilandMena]

Did anyone expect any different? Annoying though, especially as they all said they wouldn’t initially.

The Government could easily pass legislation to sort it, bit like the farce that when abroad you get amazing coverage as you are using every networks masts.

Yup! A real bummer !

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[sonny]

Is smarty 3

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

Is smarty 3

No, I think you have to buy them
Mike

 

[VXman]

Is smarty 3

Well it runs on Threes network but is an independent company.

 

[VXman]

In answer to the original question, I have discovered (to my pain) that is is not unlimited in the EU but limited to a 'fair usage' of 12GB per month!

 

[huck999]

three network.
Unlimited UK @ £20
12Gb cap abroad then £1 a Gb in 3Gb increments
Usually very good internet all over europe

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[Brains]

We pay £10 per month for our Smarty 3 sim on the motorhome
It is limited, we we have never even got close to the limit

Having said which we don't watch TV using it's bandwidth (we have a DVD player and an big satellite dish for freeview
We do haver have at least 5 devices using web access

 

[VXman]

three network.
Unlimited UK @ £20
12Gb cap abroad then £1 a Gb in 3Gb increments
Usually very good internet all over europe

That's exactly the same as Smarty - not surprising as Smarty runs on the 3 network.

 

[huck999]

That's exactly the same as Smarty - not surprising as Smarty runs on the 3 network.

sorry - meant to say this is for Smarty.

 

[wp1234]

Just to update this thread .
Today VOXI have alerted me to the fact that they intend to apply a minimum of £1 per day for use abroad up to a max of 20 GB date …. Obviously we will now look elsewhere for the best EU roaming data sim…. any thoughts on the best deals out there at the mo … TIA

 

[PJGWiltshire]

We use Smarty unlimited when back in the UK. Its a rolling monthly £20 contract. So at the end of the month when we are setting off to France and further afield I drop the contract to 12 gig a month(the limit for EU) and the price drops to £8. Will go back to unlimited when we get back. We use the unlimited for all our streaming. We do not have wi fi indoors we just link the TV and stream all our programs through the phone. Never had any issue with buffering

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[Speve]

We are using a Tiekom 300gb data sim here in Portugal you can use in UK and anywhere in EU it’s great with our motorhome WiFi set up sales@tiekom.com speak to Camino about your requirements she is very helpful

 

[wp1234]

We use Smarty unlimited when back in the UK. Its a rolling monthly £20 contract. So at the end of the month when we are setting off to France and further afield I drop the contract to 12 gig a month(the limit for EU) and the price drops to £8. Will go back to unlimited when we get back. We use the unlimited for all our streaming. We do not have wi fi indoors we just link the TV and stream all our programs through the phone. Never had any issue with buffering

Is there any UK provider that allows + 20 gb data per month abroad without the additional £ .
How easy is it to get a PAYG data sim in France I wonder that would they be valid all over Europe ?

 

[Speve]

Is there any UK provider that allows + 20 gb data per month abroad without the additional £ .
How easy is it to get a PAYG data sim in France I wonder that would they be valid all over Europe ?

Read my post #16

 

[ivorantony]

We are using a Tiekom 300gb data sim here in Portugal you can use in UK and anywhere in EU it’s great with our motorhome WiFi set up sales@tiekom.com speak to Camino about your requirements she is very helpful

+1. We used ours as well in Spain and Portugal, and happy to report it works fine in the UK,

 

[wp1234]

We use Smarty unlimited when back in the UK. Its a rolling monthly £20 contract. So at the end of the month when we are setting off to France and further afield I drop the contract to 12 gig a month(the limit for EU) and the price drops to £8. Will go back to unlimited when we get back. We use the unlimited for all our streaming. We do not have wi fi indoors we just link the TV and stream all our programs through the phone. Never had any issue with buffering

Mmm sounds good . I guess there is nothing wrong with getting 2 Smart Sim cards for £16 per month for 24Gb Europe wide use ….

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[dunnah01]

Tesco Mobile allow unlimited roaming for 2 months in any 4 months £17.50/month for 24 month contract - UK Unlimited on O2 network

 

[wp1234]

Tesco Mobile allow unlimited roaming for 2 months in any 4 months £17.50/month for 24 month contract - UK Unlimited on O2 network

Thanks fi4 the info but really looking for a no contract Sim

 

[Al n Val]

I’ve have a Smarty unlimited sim which costs £16 a month

You lot paying £20 need to call them and they should discount it

 

[barsteward]

I use ID Mobile (3 network) at home and use an awful lot of date to stream our TVs rarely use terrestrial their fair usage policy at this moment is.

Fair usage policy​

Our fair usage policy has been designed to prevent misuse of our inclusive EU roaming feature, such as someone permanently roaming and not living in the UK.

We understand that sometimes you'll want to roam for a few weeks at a time. That's absolutely fine. But if you roam more than you use your phone at home (we mean in the UK) over a 4-month period, we might think you’re permanently roaming. If so, we'll take the following action:

First of all, we'll send you a text reminding you of the fair usage policy. If you don't change your usage behaviour to comply with it, we'll also ask you to provide some sort of proof that you have strong ties to the UK, like a UK bill or bank statement.

If you don’t provide any proof of having strong ties to the UK, and you continue to roam in the EU more than you use your plan in the UK, we'll apply a surcharge to your EU roaming usage. When we do this we'll send you another text message - to make you're aware of the situation, and give you a second chance to stop roaming and avoid charges.

The surcharges that will be applied to your account if you exceed our fair usage limits are:

• 3.2p per minute
• 1p per text
• 0.25p per MB

So the theory is if I ever manage to get abroad I will pop the sim into the M/Home router.

 

[PJGWiltshire]

Mmm sounds good . I guess there is nothing wrong with getting 2 Smart Sim cards for £16 per month for 24Gb Europe wide use ….

Mmm sounds good . I guess there is nothing wrong with getting 2 Smart Sim cards for £16 per month for 24Gb Europe wide use ….

If you decide too get a Smarty SIM, drop me a PM. I will give you a code. This will give both of us a free month when you set it up

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[dunnah01]

I use ID Mobile (3 network) at home and use an awful lot of date to stream our TVs rarely use terrestrial their fair usage policy at this moment is.

Fair usage policy​

Our fair usage policy has been designed to prevent misuse of our inclusive EU roaming feature, such as someone permanently roaming and not living in the UK.

We understand that sometimes you'll want to roam for a few weeks at a time. That's absolutely fine. But if you roam more than you use your phone at home (we mean in the UK) over a 4-month period, we might think you’re permanently roaming. If so, we'll take the following action:

First of all, we'll send you a text reminding you of the fair usage policy. If you don't change your usage behaviour to comply with it, we'll also ask you to provide some sort of proof that you have strong ties to the UK, like a UK bill or bank statement.

If you don’t provide any proof of having strong ties to the UK, and you continue to roam in the EU more than you use your plan in the UK, we'll apply a surcharge to your EU roaming usage. When we do this we'll send you another text message - to make you're aware of the situation, and give you a second chance to stop roaming and avoid charges.

The surcharges that will be applied to your account if you exceed our fair usage limits are:

• 3.2p per minute
• 1p per text
• 0.25p per MB

So the theory is if I ever manage to get abroad I will pop the sim into the M/Home router.

The Open Data Policy confused me with that one - if you put in a £16 Unlimited SIM only plan in their calculator it shows a 0.25p/Mb charge over about 4.6Gb of data when roaming. This didn't tally with the Fair Usage Policy wording so I gave up at that point..

 

[barsteward]

The Open Data Policy confused me with that one - if you put in a £16 Unlimited SIM only plan in their calculator it shows a 0.25p/Mb charge over about 4.6Gb of data when roaming. This didn't tally with the Fair Usage Policy wording so I gave up at that point..

maybe I'm miss interpreting it but the way I read it is there is no cap for up to four months as long as you are not exceeding the amount of data you would normally use at home.
My average date usage each day is around 10 Gb

 

[dunnah01]

maybe I'm miss interpreting it but the way I read it is there is no cap for up to four months as long as you are not exceeding the amount of data you would normally use at home.
My average date usage each day is around 10 Gb

That was how I read it until I put the £16 Unlimited plan in their calculator (it comes up as 12Gb nowadays but still not Unlimited for 4 months) although I never queried this with ID Mobile and went for Tesco Mobile instead.

 

[iandsm]

In answer to the original question, I have discovered (to my pain) that is is not unlimited in the EU but limited to a 'fair usage' of 12GB per month!

What if you install and connect via a VPN. They wouldn’t know you outside the UK, or would they.

 

[gus-lopez]

YouTube

Doesn't use anything like the amount streaming TV does.

drop the contract to 12 gig a month(the limit for EU) and the price drops to £8.

Doesn't work like that. EU directive states that the minimum roaming they can supply is worked out by a formula.each Gb = 3€. you divide the amount that you pay by 3€.
So in your new case it would be £8 ,roughly 10€ ÷3=3,33Gb +1= 4,33 for roaming.

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